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  • Message 81

    , in reply to message 80.

    Posted by chihuahuasrule (U14285795) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    You may very well be right, but rightly or wrongly, epilepsy still, to this day tends to be looked down on and many sufferers have great trouble coming to terms with their condition. I have always been upfront about having epilepsy. I do live in the UK and I have a medical background.

    As this isn't really a foodie subject, I think its best forgotten. I have answered Mamta's question from my point of view, but other sufferers may have different problems withe the new MB format. I personally dislike it as it appears 'cold' and unwelcoming.

    JeanT

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  • Message 82

    , in reply to message 63.

    Posted by scorpiogran-gran (U13456580) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Thanks for your reply Kari, and thanks Denadar for the link.

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  • Message 83

    , in reply to message 82.

    Posted by Mamta (U2174216) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    <quote>but I personally do not like being referred to as an 'epileptic'. </quote?
    Sorry jeanT, no insult/put down was intended. I am a 'diabetic' and 'hypertensive' and the word 'epileptic' was used in the same vein. I have to be honest, it was not a slip on the key board, but I do take your point that you felt bad about it. Sorry smiley - sadface.
    Mamta

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  • Message 84

    , in reply to message 83.

    Posted by Mamta (U2174216) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Oops, sorry about that post, quotes were mistyped!!

    Sorry jeanT, no insult/put down was intended. I am a 'diabetic' and 'hypertensive' , and the word 'epileptic' was used in the same vein. I have to be honest, it was not a slip on the key board. I do however take your point that you felt bad about it. Sorry .
    Mamta

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  • Message 85

    , in reply to message 84.

    Posted by Denadar (U8017493) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Does anyone else hate seeing those two "stickies"!!!!!!! at the top of the page when clicking on to the Q&A board. I know James Martin has a q & a blog, I also know that Mary Berry has one too. Surely an obvious link to them would be better, especially as not everyone wants to ask questions.



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  • Message 86

    , in reply to message 75.

    Posted by Riocaz (U3862335) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Now closed to improve license fee payer** service.

    **and overseas freeloader 


    Overseas users arn't freeloaders.

    They pay their way because the BBC site through advertising. The advertising is IP based so anyone with a UK IP gets an adless site. Anyone with a non-UK IP gets ads.

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  • Message 87

    , in reply to message 85.

    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    I understand why they're sticky topics Dena, but it's also galling for those who know they're never going to be able to access the answers anyway.

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  • Message 88

    , in reply to message 86.

    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    “Now closed to improve license fee payer** service.

    **and overseas freeloader” 


    Charming sentiment, Scribbler! smiley - laugh smiley - laugh You remind me of our dog when she had eaten her fill and yet still guarded her food bowl and growled menacingly in case anyone should dare sneak a morsel! I suspect your licence fee pounds are safe from overseas members. If I remember correctly, Wilco told us that licence fees do not go towards upkeep of the boards, but are used for the actual TV programme content. You know, the stuff that we can’t see on the Internet!

    Hey, here’s a website that derives from the American TV Food Network Channel.

    www.foodnetwork.com/...

    People in the USA have to pay for that TV Channel through their subscription packages but the recipes are free to anyone around the world. You don’t have to be a subscriber to have access to them.

    Riocaz, regarding your comment about receiving adverts on my screen, I am in Texas and the screens are advert-free.

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  • Message 89

    , in reply to message 88.

    Posted by Rosie (U2959985) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Riocaz, regarding your comment about receiving adverts on my screen, I am in Texas and the screens are advert-free.  

    There aren't advertisements on the message boards, but there are on

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/...

    And scribbler knows that his "overseas freeloaders" do have to pay for the very few BBC television programmes we can get, ie BBC World News and BBC Entertainment [which used to be called BBC Prime], because the satellite/cable companies have to pay the BBC for them. And we have to pay the satellite/cable companies in order to get those channels. No such thing as Freeview here.

    The BBC programmes that are available on BBC Entertainment are anything up to six years old.

    We cannot view the cooking technique video demonstrations - all the things that scribbler takes for granted. And yet he calls us "overseas freeloaders".

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  • Message 90

    , in reply to message 89.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    I hereby withdraw

    "Overseas freeloaders"

    And would also like to deny any "inappropriate relationships"

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  • Message 91

    , in reply to message 85.

    Posted by Sakkarin (U7438804) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Does anyone else hate seeing those two "stickies"!!!!!!! at the top of the page when clicking on to the Q&A board. 

    Denadar, use/bookmark this link to the old-style URL and you should have a St James Bloody Martinless front page.

    www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

    Technically it is just removing the "N" in the board number (F2670471 instead of NF2670471)

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  • Message 92

    , in reply to message 84.

    Posted by chihuahuasrule (U14285795) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Dear Mamta,

    Please don't worry, its just that epilepsy can be so misunderstood and the term 'epileptic' is sometimes used as an insult. No offence taken and I am hypertensive as well!!

    All best wishes,

    JeanT

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  • Message 93

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by Peggy Monahan (U2254875) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    I only discovered this new format of the board today as I've been away and I don't visit that regularly.

    I think it's very difficult to read - typeface too small and the overall greyness is depressing.

    I still see in My Discussions, which of the threads I'm subscribed to have new posts, and I'm glad that they are no longer that horrible red.

    But I don't think I'll visit as often as I used to. And sorry to see there is no beverages board any more.

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  • Message 94

    , in reply to message 93.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    I would prefer ANY highlight of threads with now posts - even the slightly OTT red - to NONE as now provided.

    And the threads with idiot numbers don't even show on other boards!

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  • Message 95

    , in reply to message 94.

    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010


    "I would prefer ANY highlight of threads with now posts - even the slightly OTT red - to NONE as now provided." 
    Agreed! Now I have to read when [date and time] the last post was added to see if anyone has contributed since I last looked.

    As for those idiot numbers!!!! I HATE THEM!! One would have thought that the web developers would be embarrassed about such a glaring flaw, and would have corrected that by now.

    Also, why so few posts in My Discussions? We know they are still there because we can access them in a roundabout way.

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  • Message 96

    , in reply to message 95.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    TT - it's simply that they have not provided an "older posts" button.

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  • Message 97

    , in reply to message 95.

    Posted by Peggy Monahan (U2254875) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    *Agreed! Now I have to read when [date and time] the last post was added to see if anyone has contributed since I last looked.*

    Mine show with the number of new posts since I lat looked.



    *As for those idiot numbers!!!! I HATE THEM!! One would have thought that the web developers would be embarrassed about such a glaring flaw, and would have corrected that by now.*

    Which numbers?

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  • Message 98

    , in reply to message 96.

    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    "TT - it's simply that they have not provided an "older posts" button." 
    Yes indeed, Scribbler. That is exactly what I meant. We cannot access any previous discussions beyond the last 25 unless we work around it by going off to another website - like h2g2. It can be done, but it is a nuisance.

    Peggy Monahan, I see that most of your posts are on boards other than Food Q&A. That is probably why you do not see these ridiculously large negative numbers shown in the New Posts section of My Discussions.

    Here is what I see, with some formatting adjustments:


    • Do you like this new MB format?
    from Food Q&A in Food
    Last contribution: 02 Sep 2010 at 6:23pm (49 Minutes Ago)
    New posts: -100287916
    Latest post: 02 Sep 2010

    • Nice things about the new Food website
    from Food Q&A in Food
    Last contribution: 02 Sep 2010 at 5:46pm (1 Hour Ago)
    New posts: 0
    Latest post: 02 Sep 2010

    • Tex Mex Starters
    from Food Q&A in Food
    Last contribution: 02 Sep 2010 at 5:35pm (2 Hours Ago)
    New posts: 0
    Latest post: 02 Sep 2010

    • confit of tomatoes
    from Food Q&A in Food
    Last contribution: 02 Sep 2010 at 5:13pm (2 Hours Ago)
    New posts: 0
    Latest post: 02 Sep 2010

    • New twists on lasagna?
    from Food Q&A in Food
    Last contribution: 02 Sep 2010 at 4:08pm (3 Hours Ago)
    New posts: -100291087
    Latest post: 02 Sep 2010

    • Stringless (Runner) Beans - ideas?
    from Food Q&A in Food
    Last contribution: 02 Sep 2010 at 3:26pm (4 Hours Ago)
    New posts: 0
    Latest post: 02 Sep 2010 


    Read the counts for "New posts" and you will see what I mean.



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  • Message 99

    , in reply to message 98.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    &skip=20&show=100

    TT - you can also use diy programming by adding the above at the end of the address bar of your "my discussions" page, and adjusting the numbers to skip and show as you wish.

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  • Message 100

    , in reply to message 99.

    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Thank you, Scribbler! smiley - biggrin That "&skip=20&show=100" suffix to the URL is a much better workaround than going to h2g2! It has already shown me a thread to which I meant to contribute again, but forgot.

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  • Message 101

    , in reply to message 100.

    Posted by Gruney (U14241364) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    What on earth are you both talking about. Now I feel excluded by everybody!

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  • Message 102

    , in reply to message 101.

    Posted by uschi (U2208236) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Oh, don't feel excluded!!!
    Here have a piece of mocha cake and sit down with us.

    a.imageshack.us/img3...

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  • Message 103

    , in reply to message 102.

    Posted by Sloe-Gin (U9887997) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    The BBC programmes that are available on BBC Entertainment are anything up to six years old.

    Now we can all be included - we're all watching those!
    Have a slice of 5 year old carrot cake....

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  • Message 104

    , in reply to message 103.

    Posted by uschi (U2208236) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Oi! I made mine on Tuesday!!! smiley - winkeye

    Seriously, making the board more readable would be a major step forwards. It really does give me a headache.

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  • Message 105

    , in reply to message 104.

    Posted by AZCook (U2431205) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    I totally agree, Uschi.

    The message 'loo roll" part needs to be one solid colour rather than grey/white/grey/white etc - would be much easier to read. Separating each thread from another by alternating colours - ie contrast - is hard on the eyes. makes it harder to scan down the thread list and pick out words.

    Too much white space around the message part, too.

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  • Message 106

    , in reply to message 101.

    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    "What on earth are you both talking about. Now I feel excluded by everybody!" 

    Sorry, Gruney, I did not mean to exclude you!

    I was griping about being able to access only the last 25 threads in My Discussions. Scribbler pointed out to me that we can change that by adding "&skip=20&show=200" to the end of the address [URL] that shows in the long, narrow window near the top of the screen. That means that we are telling the computer to skip 20 entries and to display the next 200 entries.

    You can change the numbers that you want it to skip and to show, but I think someone had said previously that 200 is the limit on this new board.


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  • Message 107

    , in reply to message 106.

    Posted by Gruney (U14241364) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    That's ok Texas Titch - I just belong to that lost generation that has no affinity with the latest technology, and is doing its best to get to grips with learning a few cookery skills before the grim reaper calls.
    It's my ignorance, not your knowledge, that's the problem.

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  • Message 108

    , in reply to message 101.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Message 99. Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010 (3 Hours Ago) permalink forum: Do you like this new MB format?

    &skip=20&show=100

    TT - you can also use diy programming by adding the above at the end of the address bar of your "my discussions" page, and adjusting the numbers to skip and show as you wish.

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    This is a reply to message 98.

    Message 100. Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010 (3 Hours Ago) permalink forum: Do you like this new MB format?

    Thank you, Scribbler! That "&skip=20&show=100" suffix to the URL is a much better workaround than going to h2g2! It has already shown me a thread to which I meant to contribute again, but forgot.

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    This is a reply to message 99.

    Message 101. Posted by Gruney (U14241364) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010 (2 Hours Ago) permalink forum: Do you like this new MB format?

    What on earth are you both talking about. Now I feel excluded by everybody!
     



    Gruney

    It seems that to use these boards these days you must understand some computer programming.

    Which is more than the geeks of the Beeb do, to judge from the time it is taking ot do some very trivial fixes here.

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  • Message 109

    , in reply to message 108.

    Posted by Gruney (U14241364) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Yes - excluded.

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  • Message 110

    , in reply to message 107.

    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    Gruney, it's OK; you CAN do it! I think I am the same generation as you, but I have the advantage of having a little background knowledge of computer programming a long time ago. Even so, with all this new stuff, we flounder at work and keep saying that we need a kid to come in and show us how to do stuff!

    However, my father is 92 and if he can come to grips with this stuff, so can you. He lives in New Zealand and I live in Texas, and we have some hilarious conversations over Skype when I am trying to teach him how to do something - and neither of us can see the other's screen! All you need is a little tuition.

    Same with the cooking. Dad had never done much cooking, and I still remember the stodgy porridge he cooked when my mother was in hospital giving birth to my sister 50 years ago! So when he was left a widower in 2009, he had to start cooking for himself. I am really proud of him because he made a couple of boiled fruit cakes from a recipe in my Mom's recipe book and iced them himself to celebrate his 92nd birthday at the retirement centre. We often have cooking conversations, and he actually asks me for advice! smiley - biggrin


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  • Message 111

    , in reply to message 88.

    Posted by northleedsbhoy (U10768434) on Thursday, 2nd September 2010

    TT

    Thanks for that link.

    I agree with what others have said about the new board; it is very hard on the eyes. I used to work part-time in a bookmakers and the winning horse had to be written in red on a white background; that was difficult for me to see as well. All I can hope is that the Beeb will take notice of the comments made and change it; but I won't hold my breath!!

    Cheers
    NLBsmiley - ok

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  • Message 112

    , in reply to message 111.

    Posted by judimac (U2467704) on Friday, 3rd September 2010

    I have to agree, I've only been on the board (thought I was in the wrong place) for 10 mins or so, and I have developed a vile headache.
    People with dyslexia must find it a nightmare!

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  • Message 113

    , in reply to message 101.

    Posted by Denadar (U8017493) on Friday, 3rd September 2010

    As there doesn't seem to be a facility for posting a link to a thread as was possible before (unless it is just me being a numpty again) do you think it would be worth asking Ramona to forward this thread to the powers that be.

    Or could some clever person post it to this link

    www.bbc.co.uk/food/f...

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  • Message 114

    , in reply to message 113.

    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Friday, 3rd September 2010

    There doesn't seem any point in giving feedback on design
    (my problem is with eye strain)

    www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2...

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  • Message 115

    , in reply to message 113.

    Posted by Nigeepoo (U14259229) on Friday, 3rd September 2010

    As there doesn't seem to be a facility for posting a link to a thread as was possible before (unless it is just me being a numpty again)...  If you right-click on a link and select "Copy Link Location" (Firefox) or "Copy Shortcut" (Internet Exploder), you can paste it into your post e.g. www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

    Is that what you meant?

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  • Message 116

    , in reply to message 3.

    Posted by vetiver (U14317443) on Saturday, 4th September 2010

    This has sadly become a loveless place - through design (in so many ways!)

    Bar the real people who formed the community that is!

    It feels like we have been moved (by administrators and bureaucrats) from a vibrant supper table at the Rio de Janiero carnival - to an empty, soulless plaza in a purpose-built Brasilia. And that even our picnic basket has been impounded.

    I am not anti-change - but do not go a bundle on the seemingly negative driving force behind what we now have here.

    Ever thus.


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  • Message 117

    , in reply to message 116.

    Posted by jovialbutterfly (U7595735) on Saturday, 4th September 2010

    I really wish they had kept the tv programme section - they could have limited it to BBC programmes - but I miss being able to comment simply on the programmes

    I think the Board has got a little lost in itself - a shame really...

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  • Message 118

    , in reply to message 17.

    Posted by groovygran (U2934690) on Saturday, 4th September 2010

    Re: msge 17 = How I agree with all that's been said. I miss all those lovely simple, unique recipes from posters, and the numerous ideas given. Professional chefs ideas don't often appeal to me becos a) they tend to add ingredients I don't have, and often cost the earth to buy and then dump, and b) I much prefer the good hand-me-down recipes that others have posted.
    With my problematical eyesight I have difficulty reading this script, find it too bright, so I'm saying thanks for all the help and ideas I've been given in the past, and farewell!

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  • Message 119

    , in reply to message 113.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Saturday, 4th September 2010

    Message 113. Posted by Denadar (U8017493) on Friday, 3rd September 2010 permalink forum: Do you like this new MB format?

    As there doesn't seem to be a facility for posting a link to a thread as was possible before (unless it is just me being a numpty again) do you think it would be worth asking Ramona to forward this thread to the powers that be. 


    Denadar - you would previously have used the hyperling from the first messaghe to link to a thread? Now you just use the "Permalink" at the end of the address line. A clunky, unsophisticated, way of achieving the same end.

    TexasTitch - Trouble is that rewiring the bread boards does not work on PCs?

    Whoever mentioned questions to chefs/all of us. There is qa question to Jimmy M today "How to not overcook a rump roast"?

    Now even I know the answer is " cook it less, and use a meat thermometer; allowing for further internal heating whilst "resting".". But it seemed inappropriate to reply

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  • Message 120

    , in reply to message 118.

    Posted by vetiver (U14317443) on Saturday, 4th September 2010

    Dear Groovygran - it is such a shame to read your message.

    And shaming to the BBC and those behind the re-design of this board.

    I have just been using the BBC Radio 7 message board and just with regard to the font, font-size, the 'space' around the font and the background tones to the font it is a joy to use!

    I cannot for one minute believe that this new format for the Food message board meets W3C website accessibility standards - does it?



    The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C): "The social value of the Web is that it enables human communication, commerce, and opportunities to share knowledge. One of W3C's primary goals is to make these benefits available to all people, whatever their hardware, software, network infrastructure, native language, culture, geographical location, or physical or mental ability. W3C's vision for the Web involves participation, sharing knowledge, and thereby building trust on a global scale."
    http://www.w3.org/

    Tim Berners-Lee who founded the world-wide-web is also a founder of W3C.

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  • Message 121

    , in reply to message 120.

    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Saturday, 4th September 2010

    Strange - message 120 is showing as last on the thread, end of page 6, but there's a page 7 showing afterwards.
    If I click on page 7 I get a blank page that says it's page 3.

    This has probably been mentioned somewhere before, but first time it happened to me was yesterday,

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  • Message 122

    , in reply to message 121.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Saturday, 4th September 2010

    Frillz - you are getting a conflict between displaying 50 posts and 20 posts per page.

    It seems to be one of the delights of the new world.

    Over at Wild Food, Lee now offers a choice of three "skins" - any one of which is better than here.


    Obviously, providing it himself as a free public service, he has far more resources than Beeb?

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  • Message 123

    , in reply to message 120.

    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Sunday, 5th September 2010

    Really good post vetiver. The point about W3C is well made and puts this mess into perspective.

    Still cannot believe how unfinished it is and still no quick fixes made.

    It would be good to have some timings. The content is fragile as the board tries to rebuild itself and all the technical problems are really offputting.

    Patience is wearing very thin. You have to be extremely dedicated to want to visit this board!

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  • Message 124

    , in reply to message 123.

    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Sunday, 5th September 2010

    Hooray, just as I type - 4pm BST - there is an improved blue and white board emerging. Popping up then disappearing, but def something happening that looks easier on the eye. Good start.

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  • Message 125

    , in reply to message 124.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 5th September 2010

    I hope you are right, but suspect it is your poota acting up. Do Beeb techies work weekends?

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  • Message 126

    , in reply to message 122.

    Posted by Rosie (U2959985) on Sunday, 5th September 2010

    In reply to Organoleptic Icon:

    Do you still say that you are not a member of Wildfood?

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  • Message 127

    , in reply to message 126.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 5th September 2010

    Did I ever say it?

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  • Message 128

    , in reply to message 127.

    Posted by Friar Tuck (U4102818) on Sunday, 5th September 2010

    Every BBC Site has been having trouble today smiley - sadface

    Even the MAIN BBC Site was down for most of the day; being replaced by a 'temporary' skeleton B/W message smiley - sadface

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  • Message 129

    , in reply to message 128.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 5th September 2010

    Either my eyes are funny; my poota is ill, or this page briefly had a far nicer cream background.

    If this is "trouble" may it stay bad please?

    Had no problem myself on BBC boards, but not been on a lot.

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  • Message 130

    , in reply to message 129.

    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Sunday, 5th September 2010

    Thanks for the info on the conflict (number of posts) OI, as I hadn't changed any preferences I hadn't realised what was happening


    Am hanging on in here, but finding it hard to understand why such a massive organisation as the BBC is having such problems with bugs and such ill conceived ideas that're having to be amended on the hoof as it were.

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