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  • Message 501

    , in reply to message 494.

    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    Thanks Denadar for posting the link again as I did not have it bookmarked and wondered what else there was new apart from the wonderful smiley - snork

    Quite a lot of them are suitable for our situation in message board limbo ...

    When they removed the old boards they opened smiley - canofworms

    All the tech faults will be fixed tomorrow smiley - flyingpig

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  • Message 502

    , in reply to message 492.

    Posted by Rosie (U2959985) ** on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    In reply to jollymrsowl:

    How can I return to my original position after I click on a link?????? 

    I've given up on a lot of these problems, so what I do now if there is a link posted that I want to read is right click on it, and select "open in new tab" from the drop down menu, read it in the new tab and then just go back to the Food board tab.

    In fact I frequently keep the Food board open on two tabs, as on clicking on "this is in reply to blah blah" takes you straight back to the OP and NOT the message to which the post actually refers.

    The whole thing is nothing but a total farce.

    This new set-up started some months ago on the Ouch boards, with the same faults, bugs and problems. Whether or not they have yet been sorted I do not know, but at least on the Ouch boards the Ouch team themselves are involved, AND it is possible to contact them directly by email, and YES, they do respond, also by email.

    Anyone know how to contact Ramona directly?

    No. I didn't think so.

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  • Message 503

    , in reply to message 502.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    Rosie - depending how your PC is set up, simply pressing shift and clicking a link may well give you a new tab.

    I think Ramona is on Facebook - though doubt we would be welcome!

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  • Message 504

    , in reply to message 502.

    Posted by Spartacus (U38364) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    Anyone know how to contact Ramona directly? 

    I'd try [Personal details removed by Moderator] if she's actually employed by the BBC.

    Apologies in advance to the mods if this is transgressing site rules - it's permitted to post BBC and other public body email addresses over on The Archers boards, but I don't know what the local rules here permit.

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  • Message 505

    , in reply to message 502.

    Posted by jollymrsowl (U11053266) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    Thank you all for your help and tips.

    And a big thank you to Rosie for that information.

    Funny isn't it. I understood almost immediately what snagging was about, something I've been given to understand is far too dificult for newbies like me, but I can see I'll have to get OH to help me with the rest.

    Oh well, I'll keep trying.

    MrsOwl

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  • Message 506

    , in reply to message 504.

    Posted by Spartacus (U38364) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    [Personal details removed by Moderator]  

    Ah well, that's a shame. It's always been my understanding that BBC email addresses in the form of [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator] were permitted.

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  • Message 507

    , in reply to message 506.

    Posted by Denadar (U8017493) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    Maybe it's just that Ramona doesn't want her details (apart from the ones already given on these boards) being known Peet smiley - devil

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  • Message 508

    , in reply to message 50.

    Posted by honeybunny (U14617052) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    to quote house rules:
    We reserve the right to fail messages which:
    Include contact details such as phone numbers, postal or email addresses

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  • Message 509

    , in reply to message 506.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    Peet - which board/thread is it over at the Archers where you could provide the illustration?

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  • Message 510

    , in reply to message 509.

    Posted by Spartacus (U38364) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    Head over to The Bull - you can post about anything non-Archers related there.

    Look for my posting near the end of the "Changes to Messageboards" thread - I would provide a link, but when I try it in preview it just links to a "This thread has been closed" message.

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  • Message 511

    , in reply to message 502.

    Posted by pea whistle (U14517419) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    There is a blog about the new message boards.

    I'm sure smiley - laugh they'd welcome feedback.

    www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/...

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  • Message 512

    , in reply to message 510.

    Posted by John99 (U13871221) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    I posted in The Bull recently and the thread can be found here:
    "> Archers message boards > The Bull > Changes to Messageboards" www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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  • Message 513

    , in reply to message 502.

    Posted by John99 (U13871221) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    #502 Links returning to OP instead of correct message

    DEJA VU

    Another BUG the BBC should already be aware of and is perpetuating on the revised boards.

    I noticed and commented on this bug months ago. It was and probably is still affecting the iPlayer mb. I seem to think it only affected threads with over 100 posts in them, which is not often reached on the ip mb.

    I never did get any bbc response. Which is not unusual.

    "Another Bug on the Board (PermaLink to last message goes to first message instead)" - www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

    I resorted to putting the message number in replies on longer threads.

    I have more recently but only on one occasion noticed an odd problem with posts numbering from the point of entry into a thread, posts above that point being negatively numbered. If that re-occurs it adds a complication because posts then get multiple numbers.

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  • Message 514

    , in reply to message 506.

    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

  • Message 515

    , in reply to message 514.

    Posted by gremolata (U3543611) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    Tomorrow morning I should like to send a message to Jeremy Vine at Radio 2 in answer to his request for your "Favourite Poem".

    I shall also Email several other BBC employees with different points of view be they on Radio 2, Radio 4, Newsnight or whatever. I have some foodie questions to ask whilst I am doing this......

    I will use the same generic mailing address that they all use so why not for our dear Host?

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  • Message 516

    , in reply to message 515.

    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

  • Message 517

    , in reply to message 516.

    Posted by gremolata (U3543611) on Sunday, 19th September 2010

    Sorry all, just trying to figure out how my earlier message got wiped out so quickly.

    I humbly suggest anyone wanting to ask the host a question get in touch with her directly rather than using this thread.

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  • Message 518

    , in reply to message 517.

    Posted by Ramona Andrews BBC Food host (U14570541) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    Hi there,
    Unlike many BBC personalities I’m sure you won’t be surprised to learn that I don’t have a team of assistants working their way through my emails to help me respond to you. The best way to get in contact with me is through this messageboard. Alternatively if you have a general comment about the Food site, we have a feedback form here:

    www.bbc.co.uk/food/f...

    I’m frustrated too when I click on ‘My discussions’ and the number of posts appear as negative. I’m doing my best to get this and the other bugs you’ve mentioned fixed. I really am.

    Thanks,
    Ramona

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  • Message 519

    , in reply to message 518.

    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    Good Morning Ramona,




    It might be helpful if you could indicate how many times a day, or days per week you tend to check this thread.

    Because there doesn't seem to be much input here from you, the thread I feel, tends to ramble along with questions, some of which other posters try to help answer, and also general comments.
    That makes it hard I imagine for you to pick out points and questions which you could answer quickly, or even just take a note of, but also means that many people feel valid points, which need a response from you, are ignored or overlooked.


    Maybe it would be better to have a general board query thread where quick answers could be given by anyone who knows, and a dedicated Questions for Host Only (no poster responses please) where you could whizz through and pick up on issues which you alone can answer or deal with? (just a thought)

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  • Message 520

    , in reply to message 518.

    Posted by lindacatarina (U13954551) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    "I’m frustrated too when I click on ‘My discussions’ and the number of posts appear as negative."


    My suggestion Ramona to help with the frustrations would be to:

    - Stop making this a negative board by adding silly rules when they don't brake the house rules like the 'snag'...why do you insist on something so petty?

    - Listen to the valid complaints on the Whiteness of the site, which most people have a problem with reading from.

    - The point of a thread like this is for the things that are going wrong surely, ie us posters pointing out things that are not right? From my experience being a manager is mainly spending your time managing problems and the things that go well don't tend to need to need managing so much.

    Finally there is a lot of goodwill on this board from posters wanting to spend their free time helping other with problems which means if this is a busy site it will obviously benefit you and your team with the "Blog's" traffic.

    So it would only make sense for you to show more interest and more frequent visits here paying posters attention on serious irritations rather than just come on here to post another blog event. It would make us less cynical of the intent on why this board exists.


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  • Message 521

    , in reply to message 518.

    Posted by John99 (U13871221) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    #518 @ Ramona

    WORKAROUND

    _ Negative numbers _ farcical minus millions _

    I’m frustrated too when I click on ‘My discussions’ and the number of posts appear as negative. I’m doing my best to get this and the other bugs you’ve mentioned fixed. I really am.
     


    I do not remember if I mentioned it on this mb

    The problem has been in existence and the BBC will have been aware of it for months. There is a workaround, that will works now, but will get blocked as the BBC improves the other mb.

    The data is clearly there on the dna database AND other boards such as the Archers Board (but thats next for improvement) or the POV board do display the info corrrectly.

    If you log the POV mb, and use that for "Your Discussion" your discussions lists will appear and give correct numbering and highlight unread posts. This was pointed out a while ago by someone on the iPlayer mb, as the iPlayer mb has the same problem.

    Hope it helps for now,

    John

    PS
    It was "Guv-nor" that suggested the workaround, (www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb... ) & another related thread is www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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  • Message 522

    , in reply to message 521.

    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    Thanks John, I had been using TA board for that quite successfully but then the numbers went awry there too (and via the h2g2 page) Now have bookmarked the POV my discussions as my point of entry to the boards.

    The irony of something that works disappearing after 'improvements' have been carried out, is astonishing though.

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  • Message 523

    , in reply to message 521.

    Posted by sueturnersmith (U741218) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    Surely all these bugs should have been fixed before being used on the food board? It is still obviously a very early 'beta version'.

    Heaven help the BBC if they use it on The Archers board in this state!

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  • Message 524

    , in reply to message 523.

    Posted by John99 (U13871221) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    #523 Sue, <quote>It is still obviously a very early 'beta version'.
    </quote>

    Which the BBC are "Sprinting" to introduce on all the many BBC boards before the end of October - bbc comment - www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/...

    And are only dealing with major bugs which are defined as <quote>The definition of major bug typically includes instances where the service is completely unavailable.
    {from above mentioned blog] <quote>

    Beeb introduces "very early betas" quickly, witness
    - the BBC homepage beta that failed as soon as it was released live (www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/... )
    - & the recent iPlayer release out of beta, followed by a rapid need for a new Desktop beta to fix well known & pre-existing problems such as the premature programme deletions.

    And of course this current Food Q&A messageboard, lets hope the Archers mb fairs better, problems there are likely to be heavily commented on.

    John

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  • Message 525

    , in reply to message 524.

    Posted by John99 (U13871221) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    __ PREVIEW _ WYSIIWYG _

    This may have been mentioned already, so sorry if in fact a repeat question.

    If we are not getting an edit facility.
    And that is understandable as it could cause problems.Iit would help to have a
    What You See Is What You Get preview.

    With this mb & my browser (ff) the quotations for example display in final posts as italic, but as ordinary text in preview. Typos / missing tags, would be easier to pick up if the quotes did show as italic in preview.

    John

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  • Message 526

    , in reply to message 525.

    Posted by honeybunny (U14617052) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    John99: preview already gives you _ WYSIIWYG _

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  • Message 527

    , in reply to message 518.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    In reply to Ramona Andrews:
    Hi there,
    Unlike many BBC personalities I’m sure you won’t be surprised to learn that I don’t have a team of assistants working their way through my emails to help me respond to you. The best way to get in contact with me is through this messageboard. Alternatively if you have a general comment about the Food site, we have a feedback form here:

    www.bbc.co.uk/food/f...

    I’m frustrated too when I click on ‘My discussions’ and the number of posts appear as negative. I’m doing my best to get this and the other bugs you’ve mentioned fixed. I really am.

    Thanks,
    Ramona 


    Ramona - I think it is because of the rareness of your visits here that people seek an alternative route for communication. I think it is unfortunate that we do not have a host who is, by choice, an active participant on the board, as well as its owner.

    It is now 5 weeks since changeover, and hardly any of the problems have been resolved, so your best is simply not good enough.

    I realise that you are reliant on techies - but they seem to speak a foreign language of "deprecating" with a new and unknown meaning.

    One thing entirely within your power is to restore to us the benefits of Sakkarin's search engine. The only snag is easily removed.


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  • Message 528

    , in reply to message 527.

    Posted by fiorella (U14428035) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    I agree with everything you say Organo.

    Out of sheer frustration we all bang on and on about the various problems.
    And get nowhere. When Ramona does occasionally come on here - she must wear blinkers. She answers basically nothing that posters have a big issue or 10 with.
    And quite frankly - it is not good enough.

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  • Message 529

    , in reply to message 527.

    Posted by Denadar (U8017493) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    Hi scribbles,

    I think it is unfortunate that we do not have a host who is, by choice, an active participant on the board, as well as its owner. 

    As Ramona is now a member of the food writers guild - www.gfw.co.uk/qualif... - she has been busy writing several blogs,

    How to make the best of courgettes and marrows.

    How can I give my lunchbox some love. and

    How do I make lovely jellies.

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  • Message 530

    , in reply to message 529.

    Posted by Rosie (U2959985) ** on Monday, 20th September 2010

    In reply to Denadar:

    So impressive, while we peasants and former enthusiastic Food board users have to put up with the farce that this board has become.

    In addition, as our Host appears to hate the word "snag" so much, how much longer do you think before all the h2g2 emoticons are banned from here as well?

    smiley - run

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  • Message 531

    , in reply to message 529.

    Posted by sueturnersmith (U741218) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    As Ramona is now a member of the food writers guild - www.gfw.co.uk/qualif... - she has been busy writing several blogs,

    How to make the best of courgettes and marrows.

    How can I give my lunchbox some love. and

    How do I make lovely jellies.
     

    I must have seriously underestimated Ramona's abilities - I hadn't realised she was so versatile!

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  • Message 532

    , in reply to message 531.

    Posted by Rosie (U2959985) ** on Monday, 20th September 2010

    In reply to sueturnersmith:

    I must have seriously underestimated Ramona's abilities - I hadn't realised she was so versatile!  

    smiley - applause smiley - applause smiley - applause

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  • Message 533

    , in reply to message 527.

    Posted by Mrs Vee (U2897076) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    I admire your fortitude OI in asking questions of our esteemed Host - I only wish she showed the same fortitude in answering them. I have tried asking her the odd question or six myself, but frankly I can't be bothered any more.

    Have we all become invisible? Are we writing in a foreign language? Does she even bother to read them? Who knows....but I have my suspicions.

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  • Message 534

    , in reply to message 518.

    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    Hi Ramona

    Once again it would be great if your techie folk could give you and so us some indication of how long it is going to take to sort out this board.

    Much better to give realistic timings and that will make us all feel better. Instead, 5 weeks on, the irritation level just gets worse and worse. It really is a huge amount of time with so little achieved. We can be nothing except disappointed with the current wall of silence.

    Possibly more important to sort out the current mess than write about lunchboxes? Just a thought. It's a subject already covered very well elsewhere. When they ask you to write another piece tell them you need to prioritise!

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  • Message 535

    , in reply to message 534.

    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    La Conchita you're like me, obviously reining yourself in somewhat.
    I have to say that reading Ramona's contributions to the Q&A Board threads (excepting the odd contribution to this particular thread and the threads she starts to say that Blog posts or answers are up) I can recall a post about making shopping lists and one about hating chefs using terms such as 'fry off' instead of simply 'fry' where she agreed with the OP and said that an awful lot of her day is spent editing such instructions.

    Add to that
    'Thinking about packed lunch consumes a great part of my working day:'
    from the lunchbox blog

    I have to say that I feel the working day priorities are set by the Host herself actually - and sadly, are not in accord with mine...or even anywhere remotely close.

    I'll hold my hands up and say that when Ramona announced the very 'exciting' changes to the food board, I wasn't convinced, but in fairness determined to give it a chance. Sadly the results are even more underwhelming than anticipated and the whole board feels severely dumbed down - the Blogs being a case in point.
    I have previously left comments, but to be honest wont bother even clicking to read any more: the tone is too banal and the style of writing insults my intelligence.

    Clearly the long standing members of the Board are not the target market, otherwise something is desperately out of kilter here.
    All the preferred adjectives add up to the Emperor's New Clothes in my book (no pun intended actually)

    * Apologies Ramona for talking about you rather than to you, I n=mean that most genuinely, but I really doubt that you'll bother to read this anyway (and even if you do, will move swiftly on as per usual, back to striking out an errant superfluous instruction, or to pondering what to pack for lunch)

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  • Message 536

    , in reply to message 535.

    Posted by Paulthebread (U3840406) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    [I posted the following on the Paul Hollywood thread - but after posting realised it belonged on here. Since we can't now link directly to messages, as we always used to, I thought it would be easier if I pasted it here. Can I say how much I agree with the comments in msgs 534/535.]


    Welcome to the sparkling new BBC Food Q&A blog. I'm your host and I'm looking forward to helping you find answers to your cookery conundrums. We've been running our messageboard for donkey's years now and love the discussion and debate around recipes, cooking methods, curious (and ordinary) ingredients and foodie finds. Now we're keen to get more chefs and presenters from BBC TV and radio programmes involved in what we do, while keeping up the lively discussion. Hence our brand new blog...
    Sounds exciting doesn't it?

    Where can I sign up?

    I can't keep up the pretense. All that could be heard was the sound of my hollow laughter.

    As our US friends would say, "This is a crock of s**t".

    Exactly a fortnight ago, we were told:
    Hi there,

    Paul Hollywood will be answering your baking questions on the messageboard to coincide with Great British Bake Off.

    I’ll be sending the questions to him at the end of this week and they should be up on the site early next week. Please ask any questions on this thread.

    Many thanks,
    Ramona
    Since then this thread has been a permanent sticky. (I just hope that's not tautology - but it may well be!)

    And we were told last Tuesday that Paul would be answering questions 'next week'.

    There have been, by my count, approximately 15 questions put to Paul H (one of them I answered myself because the thread had just begun).

    But the other questions are still in limbo (I've checked on the blog and there's nothing from Paul H since this thread was opened).

    It seems obvious to me that Paul H is a busy man, and he's not been able to find time in his schedule for the Food Q&A blog/answers.

    So it seems to me that we regulars on here, with any expertise on the subject should jump in and answer these questions ourselves - it's what we always used to do.

    I'd have answered a couple of the later questions myself if I hadn't thought that Paul H would make an appearance at any moment.

    (Or am I missing something? Is he answering questions elsewhere and I can't find them?)

    Anyway, the point of this long, rambling post is that this thread (and any others referring to chef's blogs), is (are) the very antithesis of a 'lively discussion'.

    Have I got this right? We ask questions on here - and they get answered, eventually (if at all!), on 'there'?

    How does that qualify as a discussion?

    Back to the welcome
    Welcome to the sparkling new BBC Food Q&A blog.
    'New', it may be.

    'Sparkling', it ain't!

    Paul (TB)

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  • Message 537

    , in reply to message 536.

    Posted by lindacatarina (U13954551) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    Simple Maths....because that's how I work!


    Ramona,

    Will it make it easier for your bosses if you put it into a simple terminology like so:


    BBC wants a Food Blog
    (maybe because it's the fashion of the moment...so wants to be in the 'in' crowd)

    BBC gets a Food Blog
    ( a dull dull looking blog...but that's just my view)

    BBC messes up the current traffic to the food message boards

    BBC ignores and keeps on ignoring the folk on here...the traffic to the blog

    BBC ends up with a blog but hardly any viewers...what's the point?

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  • Message 538

    , in reply to message 537.

    Posted by Rosie (U2959985) ** on Monday, 20th September 2010

    How many times must it be said that a lot of people do not want just a food blog and an impotent Food Q&A board?

    How many times must it be said that a lot of people want to be able to discuss FOOD. Talk about FOOD. Ask questions about FOOD. Help other posters about FOOD.

    Yes there are new posters. But there is no Foodie community any more, and the new posters will now never know how it was like, because it has been totally destroyed.

    Whoever it was that said that this "new and improved" Food board was designed so that it could then be said, oh well, you don't want it therefore we will close it, was right.

    If this Food board is still going by the end of this year, WITH ALL THE BUGS FIXED, then I will steadily eat my way through all my hats.

    Without seasoning at that.

    Such a waste. Not of my hats, but of this message board and all the brilliant advice and help it gave so many of us over the years.

    Gone. All gone.

    And our Host does not like the word "snag" so she causes the sainted Sakkarin to close the search engine which he so willingly provided when the BBC couldn't do so?

    PAH

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  • Message 539

    , in reply to message 538.

    Posted by sueturnersmith (U741218) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    Snagging!

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  • Message 540

    , in reply to message 539.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Monday, 20th September 2010

    I for one am on the point of turning gross dissatisfaction into a formal complaint through the BBC system.

    Anyone feel similar?

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  • Message 541

    , in reply to message 540.

    Posted by Gruney (U14241364) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010

    Ramona - at the time of posting, this board has been open for 3 hours and forty minutes, and there have been 22 other postings.

    Are you, or your superiors, happy with this level of activity?

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  • Message 542

    , in reply to message 541.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010

    smiley - snork I noticed that the post count has disappeared! Wonder why?

    Meanwhile, on Wildfood, this board's former membership rolls on.

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  • Message 543

    , in reply to message 541.

    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010

    I can still see a post count OI? and in answer to your previous about making a complaint, I would, but I see absolutely no point.

    Ramona - at the time of posting, this board has been open for 3 hours and forty minutes, and there have been 22 other postings.

    Are you, or your superiors, happy with this level of activity?  



    What I'm noticing increasingly is new posters who register, come and post a question, either say thanks for the answer and leave or don't even bother posting on the thread again, so you don't know if they've even read the responses.

    The long standing community has been absolutely alienated, and the desired new members who were so much the focus of everything (e.g. not allowing the word snagging because they, or more likely because Ramona and her friends, don't understand it and aren't capable of asking the simple question)
    are following the title of the board Q - they ask a question and go, they don't realise this board was once a place to have interesting discussions and learn a tremendous amount.

    The majority of the board traffic this past week has either been posters talking amongst themselves on this thread, or a list of questions for James Martin, the majority of which are destined to be ignored
    (yet another factor that wont promote use of the board)

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  • Message 544

    , in reply to message 543.

    Posted by GillthePainter (U2164232) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010

    I had to unsubscribe from the James Martian thread.
    The frenzy of nearly 10 messsages on a Saturday gave me a headache.

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  • Message 545

    , in reply to message 543.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010

    Frillz - Found it! On a page normally by-passed!

    I meant a complaint to the BBC Complaints dept. Sure it would get a reading of some sort.

    If not, there is always the trust; MP, etc!

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  • Message 546

    , in reply to message 545.

    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010

    Gill was that a typo or a message from 'out there'? smiley - ufo

    I've started introducing little puns in to a couple of my posts too, just to liven things up a bit (well, liven it up for me, don't think anyone else is interested)

    OI I seriously don't think it would do any good at all, it might be read and then it would be filed in the WPB.

    Even the look of the BBC news site is poor now, but they're rolling out these so-called improvements right across the board smiley - winkeye
    I think it must be the all inclusive policy dumbing everything down.
    A bit like the piece on the Jamie Oliver Food revolution last night, I was going to make a post about it - infact, as the board's so quiet...I will!

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  • Message 547

    , in reply to message 546.

    Posted by dennispc (U7800277) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010

    Having been away for a few days, I see I had the distinction of being modded (msg409) though a reply to that message (msg 410) wasn't. Odd.

    An email appeared to suggest I was off topic. Mmmmmm. So why doesn't that apply to virtually every post since, that to me appears off topic?

    And what's all this snork business?

    doesn't.

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  • Message 548

    , in reply to message 543.

    Posted by Ramona Andrews BBC Food host (U14570541) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010

    Hi there,
    I’ve had some updates about bugs. Sorry if it’s sounds a bit techie, but that’s bugs for you.

    The issue of threads appearing to be closed when they’re not is a caching problem, linked to one of our servers. If you refresh the page and the request is served from a different server then it works properly. The team are investigating the problem.

    Other bugs:

    First line or two of text of message intro on the main topic page still showing when post has been reported: this has been fixed and will go up in the next release (date still to be confirmed). The ampersand appearing in the title of thread has also been fixed and will go out in the next release.

    I’ve been told the full pagination for My discussions will be added as soon as possible. There will also be a direct link to the latest post on a thread from My discussions.

    The team are also looking at the formatting problems and the different formatting for the NF and F versions of the board (moving forward we will be removing the F versions). They’re also investigating the oddities around page numbers which lots of you have reported.

    Someone asked about the stars – these will be reinstated.

    The problem of people’s names divided over three lines – this will be fixed in the next release.

    Making the discussion bit take up more of the page and making it wider – this has been added to the backlog.

    They are investigating both the problem of being directed back to the beginning of the thread rather than the relevant post when you click on the reply button and the problem of the message not showing quotes properly.

    I’ve been assured that the ‘back to top’ button will be added.

    A number of you reported that you made the mistake of pressing the Report Symbol instead of pressing the Reply Symbol and the team will be moving these to either side of the post.

    The problem of the homepage of threads squishing up on iPad and on Safari and should have been fixed.

    And just to clarify it was never the intention to alienate long-time users of the board. Of course we’re keen to encourage new users. There are many measures of a success of a website at the BBC and actually when you look at the core number of people using the messageboard previously, the figures were depressingly small. Page views might have been high, but unique users weren’t.

    We want to keep the messageboard going – we love the lively food chat here and want to keep the community alive. We’re sure that there are plenty of people who would love to join; it’s just about getting the message out there. I hope you can understand that’s why we’ve asked James Martin (the face of Food on the BBC) to be involved, as well as Radio 4’s Sheila Dillon, who may welcome a slightly different type of messageboard/blog user.

    I’m sorry if you didn’t like my lunchboxes blog post, but as I said before, we’re welcome to suggestions about subjects for blog posts, guest bloggers etc. The beauty of a blog is its immediacy – something that’s not always easy to find here at the BBC. Please continue to let us know what you think and help us make the blog what you think it should be.

    Anyway, this thread has gone incredibly off topic again, so I’m going to start a new one for relevant questions.

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