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  • Message 201

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    Posted by U14574828 (U14574828) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    LOL Annie, is that a disclaimer? you forgot to put the old adage of "without prejudice" also that meant nothing.
    As for Dean and myself being the same poster. NO.
    Again, if you don't want people to see what you post. Don't post it.
    Full stop.

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  • Message 202

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    Posted by Gruney (U14241364) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    Jasperus - what you're doing is not new and it's not radical. We've seen it all before, countless times, and it's just boring.

    Please allow the boards to be used for their intended purpose.

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  • Message 203

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    Posted by saffiewalks (U11222674) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    There are times I am ashamed to be a member of this board. Please give it a rest.
    Ramona - if you are a new host - apologies, if you are BB you knew exactly what would happen when you opened this threadsmiley - smiley

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  • Message 204

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    Posted by marilina (U3878924) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    wasn't there a song called 'Ramona'? I seem to remember my Dad singing it in his bath...

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  • Message 205

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    Ramona,
    I hear the mission bells above
    Ramona,
    They're ringing out our song of love.

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  • Message 206

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    Posted by marilina (U3878924) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    That's it!!

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  • Message 207

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    Posted by Sue-L (U1874003) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    Today, I can't even find a link to the Blog on the Food homepage.

    I had hoped the blog was going to pay a larger part in keeping the Food site active - with at least one new article daily. Now I can't even find the first piece about pork scratchings, and there's no indication that the Mary Berry article is part of the Blog.

    All this change seems to have done is cut the messageboards down to one, as the blog doesn't seem integrated into the Q&A board.

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  • Message 208

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    Posted by Horned Viper (U4404689) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    Sue, click on the Q and A tab in the top right side. It takes you straight to the blog.

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  • Message 209

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    Posted by Stokey Sue (U14258170) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    I have a simple quesiton

    The blog is in the form of a Q&A

    But there seems to be no way of submitting a Q

    Isn't this rather a major oversight?

    Or are we just supposed to wait until one of the bloggers has a handy tip, and let them make up their own Q to go with a pre-existing A?

    Which I regard as a bit of a cheat.

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  • Message 210

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    Sue - the idea, if I have it right, is that the great ones post their blogs. Hoi polloi can then submit questions via the "Comment" facility.

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  • Message 211

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    Posted by Stokey Sue (U14258170) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    Yes that's obvious

    But the headline of the post is in the form of a Question

    "How do I make pork scratchings?" for example

    Which the blogger than puports to answer

    Which I think is dishonest if there is no way for the "hoi-polloi" to submit the headline questions, the blogger just invents it

    It is certainly not what I understand by a Q&A!

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  • Message 212

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 19th August 2010

    Sue - Have you read Nineteen Eighty Four recently? Avoid ungoodthink.

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  • Message 213

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    As this thread has calmed down, perhaps I can ASK THE HOST a question?

    I see you have censored a couple of TV related threads. Why food TV can't be mentioned here is beyond me, but if it is banned could you perhaps publish somewhere a list of what we are and are not allowed to mention?

    And please can we have an o/t items and general chat thread. The activity level here seems to be in steady decline, and the Wildfood board is always saying hello to new members from here.

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  • Message 214

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    Posted by marilina (U3878924) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    As one of our posters here said that this board is mainly for food with a bit of chatter, and WF is mainly for chatter with a bit of food.

    Sounds good to me this way.

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  • Message 215

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    Posted by U14574828 (U14574828) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Regarding the above question to Ramona, I thought Host BB had said we were allowed, in fact encouraged, to discuss the food in the TV programs, especially if there was something that made you want to make it yourself. Only the format of the program, and should be on POV.

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  • Message 216

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    Posted by U14574828 (U14574828) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Edit to above message.

    Only the format of TV shows and comments about the chef should be on POV.

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  • Message 217

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    Posted by Scoobydoo (U11966922) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    As one of our posters here said that this board is mainly for food with a bit of chatter, and WF is mainly for chatter with a bit of food.
    Sounds good to me this way. 

    wasn't there a song called 'Ramona'? I seem to remember my Dad singing it in his bath.. 

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  • Message 218

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    Posted by Beldubby (U14242272) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    According to the blurb at the beginning of the Food Q&A board, it says ...'or want to find out more about some of the recipes featured in this week's TV & radio'

    To me that seems to suggest that the recipes or food can be discussed but not the presenters etc.

    Or have the goalposts been moved again?

    Please Host Ramona, can we have some clarification of this - or can you please change the wording of the Q&A board's introduction?

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  • Message 219

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    Posted by tinyTrishkins (U13690702) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Hi Bel....agree with you there smiley - winkeye

    Here have a smiley - bubbly it's Friday......miss you smiley - winkeye

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  • Message 220

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    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

  • Message 221

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    Posted by Ramona Andrews BBC Food host (U14570541) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Yes that 'Ramona I hear the mission bells above' song has been sung to me many times. However my parents named me after a song called To Ramona, which is on Another Side of Bob Dylan - a beautiful song.

    And yes I was BB (for a bit). I took over the previous BB's hosting duties and used this log in for a bit before 'uncloaking'. I feel that it's a lot more honest for hosts to be named and thought that I may as well add a picture while I'm at it. Hope I don't live to regret it!

    With the blog posts so far, yes we’ve come up with the questions working alongside the contributors. However the idea is that we do listen to what’s being talked about on the messageboard and produce posts that come from what you want to know.

    In the coming weeks we’ll be getting chefs to drop in and answer questions – look out for a baking surgery soon and James Martin will be extending the Q&A he does on the programme once he gets back from his holidays!

    And yes please do talk about food programmes if you want to talk about the food in them! Discussions about the format and likes/dislikes about the contestants really should like on POV.

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  • Message 222

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    Posted by saffiewalks (U11222674) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    To me that seems to suggest that the recipes or food can be discussed but not the presenters etc. 
    That is exactly my understanding of what BB said a week or so ago Beldubby.
    Just to add one more comment about the loss of the TV and radio board... I just want to make it clear that we're trying to get away from having threads on there about say Celebrity Come Dine With Me that have no relevance to people needing help in the kitchen. Like it/love it-type comments sit more easily in the POV board. See this thread: www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
    If the TV-related threads are essentially addressing a query (and we don't have to be too strict about it - questions without question marks are acceptable...) it's all good. 

    Which is presumably why the thread on the Gt British Bake Off survives because it is about a BBC programme on terrestrial television and the discussion is almost predominantly the Board bakers discussing the Victoria sponge options etc. Very enjoyable too IMO.
    There are always threads on POV and The Bull Which discuss the actual programmes themselves and the personalities involved.
    The decision has been made and is being implemented - no one has to post on here, I think it is going well and could develop into something worthwhile if allowed to.
    Let's all just wait and see.

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  • Message 223

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    Posted by Beldubby (U14242272) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Thankyou Host for clarifying that we may talk about food TV programmes as long as we keep to the food. Much appreciated. smiley - smiley

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  • Message 224

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    Posted by saffiewalks (U11222674) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    I do think we should keep it genuinely about the food though, not throw in odd remarks about greengrocery or fried egg sandwiches at the end in an attempt to be clever - not.
    Sure you know what I mean.

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  • Message 225

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    I'd prefer it if there were far fewer rules and restrictions.
    <quote>
    The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath

    Mark 2:27

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  • Message 226

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    Posted by Beldubby (U14242272) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    saffie - smiley - winkeye

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  • Message 227

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    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Ramona I am terribly confused about the rules.

    Why has the Masterchef thread been closed when it was clearly about cookery skills? I was extremely careful not to make it a like/dislike subjective type of pov thread?

    It seems we cannot now even mention a BBC programme even though you said we could?

    I thought the title and content was within your new guidelines and I am really really fed up!

    You are a TELEVISION company making programmes about food and you are counting on us watching in order to sustain interest in your online presence.

    It makes no sense to me whatsoever. Contradiction upon contradiction.

    Please clarify. I beg you!

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  • Message 228

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    Posted by puss-in-boots (U2596056) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Hi there Ramona, here is a question i would like answered as Lac says you can`t post about food peogrammes on these boards but the POV ones, yet Lac thread has been closed about masterchef but DEE`s hasn`t about the Great British Bake Off???

    One rule for one....???

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  • Message 229

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    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Good point Puss!

    The POV board is just not appropriate or workable for the kind of thread I started. It is far too fast moving and hugely random.

    It wasn't a thread about Gregg's eating style or how often he shaves his head, blah, blah (although how we enjoyed that chit chat) ... it was a perfectly on brief thread about showing classic cooking skills like sauce making.

    I honestly despair at what is going on here now.

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  • Message 230

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    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Not on your own La C, this board's turning me into a Deborah Meaden-alike smiley - laugh


    I have a question for the Host, when you refer to 'we' about board issues and decisions and the direction 'you' plural are taking the board in, who exactly is involved in the decision making process?
    Is it a royal we? is there a team? user focus groups?
    What kind of professional and personal qualifications and interest have the people involved with this site actually got - leaving aside the guest professionals who're named now as occasional bloggers.

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  • Message 231

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    Posted by Dean (U7093581) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Can't start a thread so I'll say here: Dick you wuz robbed!!!

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  • Message 232

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    Posted by Scoobydoo (U11966922) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    But Dean - a good panacotta is like a bosom smiley - blush

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  • Message 233

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    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    here is a question i would like answered as Lac says you can`t post about food peogrammes on these boards but the POV ones, yet Lac thread has been closed about masterchef but DEE`s hasn`t about the Great British Bake Off???

    One rule for one....??? 
    I have just looked at the thread that arose as a result of the Great British Bake Off. The content is largely about the different techniques for baking cakes, so in my mind is definitely a subject for Food Q&A.

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  • Message 234

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    Posted by U14574828 (U14574828) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    The Masterchef thread (that I posted on) was also mainly about the food that was cooked and techniques used. Which to my mind was also a subject for Q&A.

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  • Message 235

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    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Jasperus, from what I can see of the Masterchef thread, there is no information to be gleaned from the posts. Sure, there is talk about red wine sauces that were made on the TV show, but one would have had to see the show to understand what was being discussed. There was nothing of value to someone who had not seen the show. There IS a difference between the two threads!

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  • Message 236

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    Posted by U14574828 (U14574828) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    The intention of the original post which has been hidden was referring to the food and masterclass. I suppose because two of the posts have been hidden the true feel of the thread no longer comes across as intended. I was very interested in discussing the masterclass of the red wine sauce but it seems I can only watch it on iplayer and not discuss it with other people.
    That was all I was saying I didn't want an argument.

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  • Message 237

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    Posted by NoFrillz (U14455049) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Surely the point is 'from what you can see' I attempted to add to that thread but while I was typing it was closed without even noting that it was closed to posting.

    My comments are totally irrelevant to Points of View so the contribution has been made elsewhere, not BBC related.
    I had understood the reincarnation of this board to attempt reinvention and vibrancy smiley - sadface

    As regards TV food and cooking content,
    I think the criteria seems to be if threads compliment judges and judging those comments remain, but any criticism, even when based on observations about the food and not personality, seem to be deemed unwelcome. There appears to be little point in asking for clarification as moderation happens by whim.

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  • Message 238

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    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    There was nothing of value to someone who had not seen the show. There IS a difference between the two threads! 

    That's a bit harsh ... and hasty as I don't see how you can know now the title and OP have gone! Trust me the original premise was not dependent on having seen the show in any way. It was a discussion about classic skills being shown prompted by what had been shown on MC. It was carefully worded so as not to exclude those who had not watched.

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  • Message 239

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    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Not harsh or hasty at all, LaConchita. I wrote about what I read, and I stand by that. Classic skills may have been mentioned but were not described in the posts that remain. If someone wanted to know how to make a red wine sauce, there would be nothing for them on that thread. Maybe you did elaborate on your initial post. In that case, I wonder why it was disallowed?

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  • Message 240

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    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Yes I wonder too! The thread did not have a chance to get going.

    My point was that it was a bit harsh as you admit you had not read the start and therefore could not judge fairly.

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  • Message 241

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    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Sometimes it takes just one little comment to steer the whole thread away from what one intended. Perhaps this is what happened in your case. Anyway, the BBC moderators have made their decision about the thread, so there is not much point discussing it further.

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  • Message 242

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    Posted by Scoobydoo (U11966922) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    I'm surprised the "Ask the Host" threads don't get closed for the same reasons - getting veered way off topic far too often.

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  • Message 243

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    Posted by U14574828 (U14574828) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Now that really is harsh TexasTitch!
    We are asking for clarification of what is and isn't allowed as BB had said it was fine and good to discuss food from the programs but not about the program set up or personally about the chefs.

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  • Message 244

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    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Thanks Jasperus.

    Thank goodness I am not alone. It is such a shame when things get unnecessarily unpleasant and personal.

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  • Message 245

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    Posted by ianisinfrance (U3511174) on Friday, 20th August 2010

    Goodness gracious me.

    If the people on Wildfood had been half as unpleasant, insulting, off topic or vituperative towards you lot here, as some of you have about them, they would have been shown the red card.

    I'm not surprised that Ramona (who has finally done what I begged the host to do when she took over from her predecessor and given herself a name for exactly the reasons I gave at the time) found it necessary to rebuke you.

    Ramona. I'm going to suggest again to you that you do what some of us have been suggesting for quite a while. Grasp the nettle of the malicous complainers, and make a note of the names/nicknames of some of the most argumentative, vitriolic, and perniciously needling posters and warn them privately to cease or desist. If they don't, throw them out. I'm not saying this to get at any particular poster, but in a genuine wish to see the BBC food board recover a decent atmosphere.

    All the best
    Ian

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  • Message 246

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    Posted by saffiewalks (U11222674) on Saturday, 21st August 2010

    Morning LaC,
    From what I can remember about your OP, there were two or three references to your favourite Ozzie Masterchef, comparing that to the home grown version - am I right? This is not in keeping with the new version of life and we both know it.
    To me the red wine reduction part looked like the classic 'keeping it foodie I have just had a fried egg sandwich' phrase.
    Lots of other places we can discuss television cookery programmes in all their glory. Links at The Village Hall!
    Saffie

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  • Message 247

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    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Saturday, 21st August 2010

    Jasperus, my apologies for being so thick, but I do not understand what it is about my comment that you think was really harsh. I suspect you misunderstood me. Please could you give me more detail, in simple terms, what you think was harsh. Then I shall do my best to rephrase my comments so that my meaning becomes clear.

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  • Message 248

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    Posted by TexasTitch (U2249854) on Saturday, 21st August 2010

    Oh my goodness me, LaConchita! I was not judging your post at all. As I stated quite clearly in my first comment, I was writing from the perspective of what I can see of that thread on the boards NOW. I cannot see your original post. Therefore I made no comment about your original post. I am unlikely ever to be able to comment on your original post; the BBC Moderators have decided to remove it.

    All I was saying is that what I can see of the thread on the boards NOW is not relevant to the Food Q&A, as opposed to the comments on the cake thread, which are. I am surprised that you think that is harsh and hasty. Perhaps you have to have NOT seen either TV program to understand where I am coming from.

    However, I agree with your comment, "It is such a shame when things get unnecessarily unpleasant and personal." You have just done that to me, and I find it offensive.

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  • Message 249

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Saturday, 21st August 2010

    QUESTION FOR HOST

    Could we please have a thread on this board where board members can go to have incomprehensible disputes with each other?

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  • Message 250

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    Posted by LaConchita (U8276927) on Saturday, 21st August 2010

    It was asking for views on the classic skills being shown, not views on Masterchef. I thought it was interesting (otherwise I wouldn't have bothered!) and I thought that was ok based on the answers given to the scenarios Frillz and I gave to the Host.

    What followed was the Host's assurance that we could discuss TV shows. The very first sentence of the thread was about this.

    The beginning of the thread, as others have also pointed out, was no different to the baking thread. What John showed ... What someone on the bake off prog showed ... Etc etc. I would understand if it was a standard Telly discussion about the contestants or presenters.

    The thread on pov for example will not sustain a discussion about classic sauces and how to enrich a béchamel or that for a red wine reduction you must not soften shallots in oil or butter first.

    However as you say other places to go now, so see you back at The Bull!

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