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Why London Should Win!!!!

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Message 1 - posted by ChelseaBlue (U1683549) , Jul 4, 2005

I have been reading these pages this morning and am suprised at how negative some people are about London.London beats Paris in so many ways and i think people are guilty of not recognising just how great a city London is. Yes the train system in Paris is better than London but the traffic in Paris is far far worse.Hotel rooms in Paris are almost double the price. Despite the historical gumph about great French food, London has far more restaraunts with a far greater choice of food and generally amazing quality.We are easily the equal to Paris in terms of history,museums and art and our range of parks and outside spaces is the best of almost all capital cities in the world.The locations of all the sports in London are grouped much closer together than Paris and most importantly the majority of the athletes will be on site and able to walk to their events whearas in Paris they have a 10km journey.However the thing that means we should and must win is the British people's passion and fervour for sport.Look at the last olympics in Greece.Literally thousands and thousands of Brits turned up at all the events, far more than any other nation,and that is always the case no matter how far away the event.Whether it is Football, rugby,cricket,athletics,boxing, rowing,tennis or almost any other event, they are always sold out here.The OLympics would be a smash hit success in London like in no other city in the world ,let alone Paris.It would hopefully also be a massive inspiration and motivation to thousands of schools, schoolchildren and local authorities to make sport and fitness a major part of their lives like probably no other event could. I for one am desperate to win it and all the negative,despondant,critical "it'll never work brigade" should buck their idea's up and get behind their country!
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Message 2 - posted by jerste (U1648165) , Jul 4, 2005

You've got to be jocking mate. Transportation is a major issue for London, the tube network is appaling. Jams in Paris? Well, god luck if you drive in London. Be serious a sec, are you gonna use your car to drive around anyway.
Hotel rooms in Paris are cheap and you can easily find one for 30 GBP. Breakfast included. May be you can afford the Hilton.
If you dont lie the French food then stick to your own. Bon appetit.
Finally there is no British nation. There are English who dislike anybody else and for that main reason they dont deserve the games.
PS having read the main French papers this morning I can tell you that noone cares about the allegations of the Australian mole. The game in Austraia were ok bit the ahletics were pityful as they were during the comminwealth games. The marathon coverage was an insult to the athlets.

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Message 3 - posted by ChelseaBlue (U1683549) , Jul 4, 2005

Who is talking about Australia? Also you need to check your facts. As part of the official bid documents each city has to guarantee a max room price for a certain category of hotel room. The Paris price is around 100 per room more expensive than London and far more expensive than any other city.I'm not making that up,check the official documents.As for food, i wasn't talking about English v's French food, i was talking about choice and quality and London is miles and miles better than Paris.We have thousands of restaraunts offering food from every nation and continent.Indian,Thai,Chinese,Middle eastern,French,Italian,Greek,South African,Argentinian,Mexican etc etc. Paris simply desn't have that much choice and certainly nowhere near the number.As for traffic,central Paris is easily as bad as central london especially now we have the congestion charge and you are right about most people not driving to events but lots will be using taxi's,coaches,buses etc so it is an issue.As for the English hating everyone, that is simply not true.London and New York are the two most cosmopolitan cities in the world with a huge multi cultural diversity.If anything the English are hated and this is NOT and English bid it is a Britsih bid.

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Message 4 - posted by U1650784 (U1650784) , Jul 4, 2005

Lets be honest if the tube and rail system are the major issue London wouldnt be allowed to stage the over 90s European tiddlty winks championship. London transport is by far the worst of any major city in Europe (by a factor of 10 or more in many cases) and also far more expensive (again by a factor of 10 or more in some cases). Lets hope that other factors outweigh it and that winning encourages Blair to give us a transport system to compare with Paris and Madrid.

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Message 5 - posted by michael salkeld (U717418) , Jul 4, 2005

I totally agree London is the best bid and the best city

I cant' wait for Wednesday I can just feel the momentum is with London

I have been reading these pages this morning and am suprised at how negative some people are about London.London beats Paris in so many ways and i think people are guilty of not recognising just how great a city London is. Yes the train system in Paris is better than London but the traffic in Paris is far far worse.Hotel rooms in Paris are almost double the price. Despite the historical gumph about great French food, London has far more restaraunts with a far greater choice of food and generally amazing quality.We are easily the equal to Paris in terms of history,museums and art and our range of parks and outside spaces is the best of almost all capital cities in the world.The locations of all the sports in London are grouped much closer together than Paris and most importantly the majority of the athletes will be on site and able to walk to their events whearas in Paris they have a 10km journey.However the thing that means we should and must win is the British people's passion and fervour for sport.Look at the last olympics in Greece.Literally thousands and thousands of Brits turned up at all the events, far more than any other nation,and that is always the case no matter how far away the event.Whether it is Football, rugby,cricket,athletics,boxing, rowing,tennis or almost any other event, they are always sold out here.The OLympics would be a smash hit success in London like in no other city in the world ,let alone Paris.It would hopefully also be a massive inspiration and motivation to thousands of schools, schoolchildren and local authorities to make sport and fitness a major part of their lives like probably no other event could. I for one am desperate to win it and all the negative,despondant,critical "it'll never work brigade" should buck their idea's up and get behind their country!

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Message 6 - posted by michael salkeld (U717418) , Jul 4, 2005

Also criticizing London transport has just become a habit for some people.

I happen to know that foreigners visiting London find the transport very good.

And they love all the fee museums that Paris doesn't have.

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Message 7 - posted by michael salkeld (U717418) , Jul 4, 2005

London needs the Olympics and the IOC needs London

Paris can wait

It has to be London 2012

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Message 8 - posted by bridges_22 (U1683864) , Jul 4, 2005

Re transport issues.

What about yesterday? There was 200000 at the Live8 concert....England/Australia Cricket Final....Wimbledon Final...Gay Pride March....others? Surely yesterday was proof that the transport infrastructure is not that bad?

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Message 9 - posted by michael salkeld (U717418) , Jul 4, 2005

exactly

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Message 10 - posted by jerste (U1648165) , Jul 4, 2005

well you really need to go out a little more and stop telling lies if you dont know. In Paris you can easily get a room for 30 pounds as I said and all the people I know are reluctant to come to England because of the prices of the hotel. I have lived there myself for long enough to know. Same for the food, and by the way when you go to a Chinese or Italian restaurant in France they dont serve you fishand chips. The Australian I talk about is the funny guy who didn't play fair and start stabbing France's sports infrastucture in the back. Commonwealth tries to rule I suppose. Now it is not a British bid and should you look closer at the people in the UK who backed Manchester in the past and are not backing London then you would know.

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Message 11 - posted by jerste (U1648165) , Jul 4, 2005

Well I believe that you hae the right to criticize the shamefull London transport network when you have to suffer of it every day. Not to mention the overpriced ticket: twice more expensive than Paris, four time more than Madrid.
Personally I dont know anyone who has refered London transport as a nice trip to experiment.
Free museums? There are free museums everywhere in the worl, you need to get the list and also be aware that when it is free is is because our taxes pay for it.

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Message 12 - posted by jerste (U1648165) , Jul 4, 2005

"I totally agree London is the best bid and the best city

I cant' wait for Wednesday I can just feel the momentum is with London"

Then the best thing would have been NOT to send became to support the bid: he lives in Madrid who will not get the games and play at Manchester who didnt. Besides he can hardly speak.

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Message 13 - posted by jerste (U1648165) , Jul 4, 2005

Beckham
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Message 14 - posted by ChelseaBlue (U1683549) , Jul 4, 2005

Like i said before,try checking the facts.Go to the Olympic site and take a look at the official bid documents. You would see that Paris's official stats on hotel rooms make them by far the most expensive of the 5 bidding cities.If that wasn't true why did Paris declare it in their own official bid document. As for Chinese and Italian restaraunts serving Fish and Chips,well you and your friends must eat in the cheapest,crappest restaraunts you can find.I've never ever been in Italian that sells Fish & Chips and the only Chinese that do are very cheap local take aways. I think you are relying on old and outdated stereotypes my friend.You will also find that the guy who previously headed up Manchester's previous Olympic bid and their winning commonwealth games bid has been one of the driving forces behind London's bid this time.

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Message 15 - posted by michael salkeld (U717418) , Jul 4, 2005

I hate to raze this issue ,but our hotels have fire escapes as well

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Message 16 - posted by aschehoug (U1686858) , Jul 5, 2005

To speak quite frankly, both London and Paris' bids are outstanding, and both cities deserve to host the Olympics, and that is what makes the competition and its outcome so exciting. Yet I truly believe London has not recently shown great fairplay and has damaged its own olympic spirit, even if it certainly boosted its bid. Reading through the comments on this site, I do feel the British have focused on criticizing and attacking the other candidatures which is forbidden and unworthy of traditional British fairplay. By solely focusing on why London is better than Paris, aren't you making a secular complex apparent? The shocking "french-bashing" in the media and espacially the tabloid, is an insult to the intelligence of the British people, its olympic spirit and its values. Because to be frank, the French have absolutely not been arrogant on this subject, neither have the Spanish, but the aggressive British PR and medias have shone the British people in a bad light. It seems London is unsportingly making up for some lacks, while Paris and Madrid are serene, fairplay and respect the Olympic spirit.
Both cities are great cities and will host magnificent games. But stop using stereotypes, especially on the French, because it quite simply echoes your on own jingoism.

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Message 17 - posted by joeycrazycat (U1680355) , Jul 5, 2005

I'm French and been living in the UK for 10 years, and frankly I don't want neither Paris of London to win the bid. No European countries have never made a profit of summer olympic games, so we tax payers are going to pay for the final bill once more. The games should be given to Australia every four years, they were just great there!

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Message 18 - posted by splendiferous_star (U1686985) , Jul 5, 2005

Because to be frank, the French have absolutely not been arrogant on this subject, neither have the Spanish, but the aggressive British PR and medias have shone the British people in a bad light.

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Come on, M.Chirac's recent comments on British food and 'trustworthiness' are just plain insluting, way beyond anything in the British media about France, Spain or anywhere else. They may not be directly related to the Olympic bid, but if you're looking for evidence of attitudes towards other candidate cities this has to be a prime example of the French 'arrogance' you claim does not exist.

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Message 19 - posted by splendiferous_star (U1686985) , Jul 5, 2005

Sorry to double-post but I should add that I don't think all French people are guilty of this (just as not all British are innocent of the arrogance and jingoism aschehoug accuses us of). However, that President Chirac finds it amusing to make such comments must be indicative of a less than respectful attitude towards Britain in French politics - it has to be said that "Brit-bashing" is just as common in French politics and media as "French-bashing" is over here.

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Message 20 - posted by mf_rsr (U1686954) , Jul 5, 2005

I agree - however I think that the issue of stereotyping scorns the bid by London rather than Paris not beacuse of OUR past-misjudgements (none of which seem to be evident on this board btw) but rather by those blindly judging us. Jacques Chirac's comments about British food for example, the comments made on this discussion board for example. Paris unfortunately suffers for the better in this regard. Romantic, world beating cuisine, peaceful, creative arts!!! PLEASE! With reference to a previous post both cities can lay claim to such traits as does every major city in the world. But London is moving on whilst Paris remains a relic of history in this global age. Albeit, cosmopolitanism does not breed the right to olympic status. I think the passion and want of the British people invested in sport warrants that the games makes a visit here in 2012. I think London as an example of a modern and dynamic city (that works!) warrants its success at Singapore. Above all I think that a modern Britain - one of cultural diversity, equal opportunity, tolerance, passion and success - warrants its place in history as the best ever olympic host becasue in essence that is exactly what the olympics are about.

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