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Boring TDF in 2006 ?

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Message 1 - posted by GScooter (U1719221) , Jul 20, 2005

Well, let's face it Lance is going to retire after this race and next year nobody will be able to make excuses about being beaten by the Armstrong Machine/Team.

So will it be a boring race or in fact a race filled with enormous uncertainty and challenges in each and every stage? After all have any of his competitors NOT fallen, crashed or had some incident up to this point?

And most of all - Anyone want to make a prediction about the people who will be on the podium next year and/or the top 10 overall riders next year?

Won't it be sad that the mobs won't have someone like Lance the "Dominator" to throw stones at next year? Who will the petty and immature complain about next?
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Message 2 - posted by bridgework (U1652282) , Jul 20, 2005

it will be a great tour in 06. i will miss the boost lance has given pro cycling in the U.S., and i will miss the pleasure of watching a legend in the making. but i will enjoy watching the rest duke it out. lance has been head and shoulders above the peleton for years. in 2006 i expect a close battle. who knows it could come down to a time bonus in paris...

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Message 3 - posted by grassmarket (U1666673) , Jul 21, 2005

No, it's going to be great. When Lance is in the race everyone knows that they have to mark and attack him. Without him, nobody knows where the attacks are going to come from, when to respond, when to let someone go, who's got the strongest team-mates etc etc.

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Message 4 - posted by AntonKC (U1720943) , Jul 21, 2005

Well, It won't be boring next year thats for sure. Its been a pleasure watching the god himself Lance dominate and give everyone a lesson in world class cycling for so many years, however, a change would be a good thing. It'll be like the removal of a political dictator from power and everyone jostling for positions in the first year. And we'll have the best seat in the house watching the battle for top dog. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm a big fan of Popovych, who I'm sure will be in the mix.

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Message 5 - posted by GScooter (U1719221) , Jul 21, 2005

And the press - Who will they focus on? They are going to go nuts if there isn't a dominating racer to heckle and "investigate."

Actually it should be a wild ride next year. All this years chasers and all the young blood will be out to prove that they are ready to be THE next big name in cycling. There is a lot of talent out there now they have to get organized.

Armstrong certainly isn't the only world class rider out there and now we will see how durable the others are when they are wearing the yellow jersey and THEY are the target of the attacks.

Yep should be a wild time next year. But hey!
Todays stage appears to be a wild ride now too. One last chance for riders to challenge Lance and get close enough in the event he falters here at the end?

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Message 6 - posted by Chilean_Llama (U1647784) , Jul 21, 2005

2006 will be the best tour in many, many years.

The uncertainty will be back. A number of riders have shown themselves this year, and should only become stronger. It will be much more open, more riders to watch for the challengers, and I doubt it will be settled until at least the final mountain stages, if not the final TT (assuming 2006 format is the same as 2005).

Domination and control of the race by a single team will hopefully be much reduced.

And out of all the class riders there, do they have the credentials to go all the way without a bad day?

No one in their right mind would try and predict next years top 10, but I think it will be time for Basso to rise to the top, or maybe Ullrich if he decides to race again. After 2006 I would like to see the younger riders Popovych, Cunego, Valverde come to the fore.

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Message 7 - posted by Missouri-Mule (U1712042) , Jul 21, 2005

I think it will be a fantastic TdF in '06. There are obvious contenders, and there are those who have continually come up short as of recent. Perhaps next year we will see whether it was simply a matter of Disco's supremacy or more so their own shortcomings.
At any rate, I look forward to it and I hope that my fellow Americans will stay interested in the TdF, sans Armstrong. To be honest, I had never been interested in any bicycling outside of mountainbiking until Lance's reign began. I've been hooked for life now, and not simply because of the success of Lance and Disco. Hopefully many others in this country can say the same, and we will be able to send contenders to the race for many years to come. I hope to be standing on the side of the road myself next year for vacation.

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Message 8 - posted by El_Pinoy (U1720982) , Jul 22, 2005

I guess you're right - next year's TDF will be great entertainment. You're also right in that it's quite difficult to mark anyone in particular.
in other words, we're gonna have a big free-for-all in the 2006 TDF.

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Message 9 - posted by U1682520 (U1682520) , Jul 23, 2005

I think next years Tour will be a great one.

I think Ulrich may have one mor go at it. I'd love him to do it but i can see him having as difficult job to get on the podium as this year.

My money at this moment would be on Valverde for next year. I think him & Popovych will both be on or around the podium for years to come. Basso will probably be favourite but it'll depend on how he can ride without Armstrong alongside him or leading him up a mountain. It will also depend on whether Rasmussen goes for the mountains jersey or the overall one.

From 12 months away I would say: 1) Valverde 2) Basso 3) Popovych 4) Ulrich 5) Rasmussen.

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Message 10 - posted by wolfrj (U1730810) , Jul 23, 2005

Next year:

1. Ullrich
2. Basso
3. Popovych

Without Lance, Basso's gains in the mountains will be minimized by T-Mobile.

WK

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Message 11 - posted by windslice (U1718646) , Jul 23, 2005

I think next year will surprise some people. What Lance has left to the tour is the knowledge that hard work pays off. The motivation to train has waned in Lance; he's collected all the carrots.

Basso and Ulrich appear to be locks although Ivan may come in over confident and Jan has that offseason history. The hunger starts today. Some of the oldtimers may throw everything they have left at their preparations and some juveniles may mature into colts.
Next year:

1. Ullrich
2. Basso
3. Popovych

Without Lance, Basso's gains in the mountains will be minimized by T-Mobile.

WK

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Message 12 - posted by croftfoot (U1735696) , Jul 24, 2005

Maybe Basso is underestimated- of the top three, he's the only one who competed in 2 grand tours this year (though i guess his giro wasn't so great).

What would he be like if he focused only on the tour de france?

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Message 13 - posted by naspa (U1648370) , Jul 24, 2005

Why exactly will it be boring?

What I am looking forward to is the end of the media circus and the Armstrong cult of personality.

I'm looking forward to a tour which doesn't revolve around one man or team.

I have no idea who is going to emerge as the main contender next year.

I think that it is going to be great that there may well be 5 or 6 teams that will go into the tour thinking that they have a serious chance of yellow overall. That can only be a good thing.

I look forward to the Worlds and the Vuelta for the very same reasons.

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Message 14 - posted by cactus4sucre (U1736099) , Jul 24, 2005

The TdF next year will be between Ulrich, Basso, whoever is team captain of Discovery Channel (my choice would be Popovych), Valverde of this years riders plus possible new riders.

Ulrich will desperately want to win and I think can hold Basso in the mountains and of course win the time trial.

Rasmussen can win the polka dot jersey, but his abysmal time trialling would stop him from winning overall. Either his bike was unstable, i.e. of doubtful geometry or an ex world champion mountain bike rider has terrible bike handling skills.

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Message 15 - posted by faiweirafma (U1390471) , Jul 24, 2005

Any number of competitors will be in the frame next year.

It'll be a fabulous Tour, because Armstrong has put cycling firmly in the spotlight but his departure will immediately stop the one-man show. Any number of riders could win it and I'd expect the yellow jersey holder to change a few times as well. Basso and Ullrich will likely start as favourites, Rasmussen is a contender if he improves in time trials (and I'd fancy him for the King of the Mountains), and if the Discovery Channel team are as well organised post-Armstrong as they were this year then their new captain will definitely be up there.

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