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Williams and Cosworth confirm deal

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Message 1 - posted by hunt_the_shunt (U1649206) , Aug 15, 2005

Autosport are running a story about they have confirmed their deal.
Didn't see anything about length but made it clear it was a partnership in several areas and the decision was made on technical merit.

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Message 2 - posted by Schumi36 (U1654571) , Aug 15, 2005

Was inevitable really. I think Williams will be the surprise package of 2006. Cosworth know how to build a good V8 engine.

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Message 3 - posted by murrywalker (U1647581) , Aug 15, 2005

Can't keep a good team down (not for long anyway).

Now we wait to see who drives for them!

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Message 4 - posted by Bob-Bobbins (U1644669) , Aug 15, 2005

I wonder if this 'partnership' rather than a straight customer deal will negate any legal action by JB?

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Message 5 - posted by Wyattearpracer (U1739289) , Aug 15, 2005

I wonder if this 'partnership' rather than a straight customer deal will negate any legal action by JB?

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I JB does not want to drive for him, I will, V8 engines next year not quite an equal playing field but at least I am sure there should and will be more wheel to wheel racing next year.

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Message 6 - posted by V16BRM (U1644668) , Aug 15, 2005

Was inevitable really. I think Williams will be the surprise package of 2006. Cosworth know how to build a good V8 engine.

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Hopefully Williams will have sorted out their chassis or the engine is purely academic.

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Message 7 - posted by RICHBMW (U1775786) , Aug 15, 2005

I think that this is good deal for Williams, nobody has better experience in building and running V8 engines than cosworth. Williams will be back in 2006, hopefully with a much better chassis. I really hope they get rid fo Webber though as he has not been as good as many people had thought he would be. Heidfeld has been really enjoying having a powerful car and he has shown that with the right car he can race.

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Message 8 - posted by murrywalker (U1647581) , Aug 15, 2005

Lets faec it folks, the new deal CAN'T be any worse than their partrnership with BMW which simply has not worked!

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Message 9 - posted by ppparkinson9 (U1666034) , Aug 15, 2005

I think Cosworth are great, but the problem is they just can't compete against the sheer amount of cash that the big manufacturers bring to their engines. If they could get a big car company to pay the bills, great, but otherwise no matter how ingenious they are they won't be able to overcome cash. Look what happened to Hart.

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Message 10 - posted by colonelSANGUINETTI (U1877308) , Aug 17, 2005

Thats right....but I will be content everytime a Williams car outpace a BMW.They just used us as a stepping stone to enter F1.Lets see what they can do on their own......with all their engine blow-ups.
I think Cosworth are great, but the problem is they just can't compete against the sheer amount of cash that the big manufacturers bring to their engines. If they could get a big car company to pay the bills, great, but otherwise no matter how ingenious they are they won't be able to overcome cash. Look what happened to Hart.

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Message 11 - posted by ******** (U1688308) , Aug 17, 2005

Thats right...They just used us as a stepping stone to enter F1.

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Do have a member of the Williams F1 team on the board....how is frank....or are YOU Frank.

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Message 12 - posted by grandprix (U1759224) , Aug 18, 2005

I'm inclined to agree, Do you all remember back in 1993, A Senna - Maclaren and the ford Cosworth engine, if I'm not mistaken, Senna achieved 5 wins that year, against the Williams- Renault. I still believe that it isn't just the team or the engine, but a certain type of driver, who is committed 100%.
Was inevitable really. I think Williams will be the surprise package of 2006. Cosworth know how to build a good V8 engine.

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Message 13 - posted by Everestclimber (U1889466) , Aug 18, 2005

It's a shame that Williams don't appear to have the 100% drivers for next year. Webber has regularly been outpaced by Heidfeld and has not lived up to the team's anticipation - ie another Australian charger like Alan Jones was all those years ago. AJ is still held in high esteem by certain team members.

As for JB - Frank seems 100% sure that he won't be driving for BAR next year so whether he drives willingly for Williams or gets relegated to a testing role, we will have to see.

I'm sure Cosworth will produce a very good engine but it is not due to be chassis tested until November, so they will already be 4 months behind Ferrari's V8.

I'm inclined to agree, Do you all remember back in 1993, A Senna - Maclaren and the ford Cosworth engine, if I'm not mistaken, Senna achieved 5 wins that year, against the Williams- Renault. I still believe that it isn't just the team or the engine, but a certain type of driver, who is committed 100%.
Was inevitable really. I think Williams will be the surprise package of 2006. Cosworth know how to build a good V8 engine.

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Message 14 - posted by Wyattearpracer (U1739289) , Aug 18, 2005

It's a shame that Williams don't appear to have the 100% drivers for next year. Webber has regularly been outpaced by Heidfeld and has not lived up to the team's anticipation - ie another Australian charger like Alan Jones was all those years ago. AJ is still held in high esteem by certain team members.

As for JB - Frank seems 100% sure that he won't be driving for BAR next year so whether he drives willingly for Williams or gets relegated to a testing role, we will have to see.

I'm sure Cosworth will produce a very good engine but it is not due to be chassis tested until November, so they will already be 4 months behind Ferrari's V8.

I'm inclined to agree, Do you all remember back in 1993, A Senna - Maclaren and the ford Cosworth engine, if I'm not mistaken, Senna achieved 5 wins that year, against the Williams- Renault. I still believe that it isn't just the team or the engine, but a certain type of driver, who is committed 100%.
Was inevitable really. I think Williams will be the surprise package of 2006. Cosworth know how to build a good V8 engine.

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Would you pay someone 10 Million pounds to be only a test driver??

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Message 15 - posted by Everestclimber (U1889466) , Aug 18, 2005

I understand that Williams have a watertight contract with JB and he cannot drive elsewhere.

However, if he decides to throw his toys out of the pram and doesn't want to race for Williams, or does race but is not doing a good enough job, they can withhold payment. He would be stupid to do so but that's the deal as I understand it.

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Message 16 - posted by Wyattearpracer (U1739289) , Aug 18, 2005

JB will race for Williams next season whether he likes it or not.

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Message 17 - posted by porchos (U1737675) , Aug 19, 2005

Button as a test driver. Sounds good to me. And I have a feeling Williams would be prepared to do that.

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Message 18 - posted by ferrari-fanatic (U1740552) , Aug 19, 2005

JB will race for Williams next season whether he likes it or not.

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I am in total agreement with you Wyatt.

1) He is contracted to do so...and
2) He cannot afford to sit out for a year.

If he did sit out for a year, no team would want him in the future (IMO)

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