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Strangely boring match b/w Fed and Hewitt

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Message 1 - posted by learndirect-from-lexi (U1644819) , Jul 1, 2005

Compared to Venus and Maria yesterday I thought I was watching the thing in slow motion. It's as if they both refused to hit through the ball. It was soporific. I fell asleep at points. Every now and then Federer or Hewitt would do something good but most of all it was just draining to watch. I just dont know why they both vhose to bore us to death this afternoon. I was begging for Venus and Maria to take the court again.

I was grateful when Roddick took to the court. He has had many chances so far but its like he is desperate to show that he has lots of other shots he finds himself chipping returns back, or slicing for no apparent reason. I can not understand why he doesn't just play his game. Then when he is in a winning position you can start to show off. That's Federer in a nutshell. Does the basic important things well and then when he is winning he puts on a show. I dont know why Roddick would try to put on a show when he is 4-4 and 3-0-30..it makes no sense.

I truly hope Roddick wins if not Johansson will be a mess in the finals with no belief and absolutely nothing to hurt Roger with.
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Message 2 - posted by Maty_go_johansson (U1651648) , Jul 1, 2005

i dont think it matters who wins they will be both struggle fed has both of thier numbers

i cant see why johansson would be more of a mess than roddick though

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Message 3 - posted by JJ (U1646301) , Jul 1, 2005

thats because Hewitt never ever looked lke having a chance against Fed...snigger snigger...

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Message 4 - posted by Nick Havoc (U1645160) , Jul 1, 2005

Compared to Venus and Maria yesterday I thought I was watching the thing in slow motion. It's as if they both refused to hit through the ball. It was soporific. I fell asleep at points.

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Maybe it was just the lack of good sound effects. <laugh>

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Message 5 - posted by MoTennis (U1649571) , Jul 1, 2005

Both were playing almost flawlessly, the only difference is that Federer was such a better player.

It was a beautiful match. I agree it wasn't an exciting match like the Venus-Sharapova match, but nonetheless an awesome display of perfection.



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Message 6 - posted by U1650505 (U1650505) , Jul 1, 2005

Yes it was a poor performance by Hewitt's standards and completely one sided. Hewitt just did not believe such is the aura now surrounding Federer. Federer played well but did not have to play his best.
Job done in straight sets. Nice little afternoons work.
This tournament this year is crying out for a classic encounter not many so far.
Apart from the Borg v Mac 1980 final they have just shown for the umpteenth time. But somehow you never get tired of seeing it.

Actually i would disagree with you re. the Venus , Maria match last night. It did not make for pretty Tennis . Not the Tennis i like . It was just slug it out from the back . Scream and keep on screaming until you win the point or the other makes a mistake awful to watch. No finesse just ugly Tennis . I much prefered the other ladies semi final. Shame the rain came.

Johansson might be the dark horse here. It is a big ask for him to beat Roddick but he has more than a passing shot. He does not look like a choker to me. He quitely goes about his business and has an air of confidence about him. And he is playing very good tennis . He is in form. And grass is his best surface. Cool Swede once again.

I also do not think he will be a mess if he does get to the final although i expect Federer would win fairly comfortably.


Dont forget he has won a Grand slam . So been there done it got the t shirt so to speak.
Compared to Venus and Maria yesterday I thought I was watching the thing in slow motion. It's as if they both refused to hit through the ball. It was soporific. I fell asleep at points. Every now and then Federer or Hewitt would do something good but most of all it was just draining to watch. I just dont know why they both vhose to bore us to death this afternoon. I was begging for Venus and Maria to take the court again.

I was grateful when Roddick took to the court. He has had many chances so far but its like he is desperate to show that he has lots of other shots he finds himself chipping returns back, or slicing for no apparent reason. I can not understand why he doesn't just play his game. Then when he is in a winning position you can start to show off. That's Federer in a nutshell. Does the basic important things well and then when he is winning he puts on a show. I dont know why Roddick would try to put on a show when he is 4-4 and 3-0-30..it makes no sense.

I truly hope Roddick wins if not Johansson will be a mess in the finals with no belief and absolutely nothing to hurt Roger with.

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Message 7 - posted by learndirect-from-lexi (U1644819) , Jul 1, 2005

I certainly dont think both played flawlessly. Hewitt could have played better but he was clearly intimidated by Federer because the harsh truth is that he has nothing to hurt Fed with. People are raving about the gap b/w Fed and the number 2 player in the world. LOL. LOOK at teh number 2 player in the world before you start raving. It's Hewitt. He is a fighter and a grinder but tennis wise he is not going to offer us a toe to toe rivalry. The likes of Safin and Nadal and Roddick. Hewitt was not his usual brash self and the come ons, three that came, were strangled. LOL. I don't think Fed even had to get out of gear to win that match. He hit some of the most attackable second serves and Hewitt did nothing. Fed floated so many returns back and Hewitt did nothing.

Hewitt's balls had no pace, mostly short and Fed did nothing. It was just one of those dull matches.

I think Roddick's serves if firing can hurt Fed. I think if Roddicks forehand is firing especially the inside out to Federer's backhand, it can hurt Fed just like it did in the first set last year. Roddick made Fed look slow and laboured and we know Fed is a fabulous mover. Roddick just couldnt keep it up and I am not saying Fed wont beat whoever he meets. However, if you want a match and not an exhibition, it is my opinion that one is more likely to see one if Roddick is the opponent. Of course this all depends on what state of mind Roddick comes out in.

I am more interested in tomorrow to be honest.

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Message 8 - posted by Nick Havoc (U1645160) , Jul 1, 2005

Hewitt's balls had no pace . . .

Roddick just couldnt keep it up . . .

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There are some younsters on here, lexi. You really shouldn't be talking about such things. <laugh>

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Message 9 - posted by urbande (U1664218) , Jul 1, 2005

I think Hewitt, being no good volleyer, made 22 out of 25 net points, when he followed up behind deep shots to Federer's backhand. But he served poorly with too many first serves missing and stayed back too much. Federer's best shots are his slice serve (especially the inside out from the left side) and his magnificent forehand, especially down the line and from half court. But if you can attack his backhand, it can crack.

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Message 10 - posted by U1650505 (U1650505) , Jul 1, 2005

Well i suppose he is not no.2 for nothing and he has been out for a while so fair play to him for reaching the semi's . I like him and i admire his guts and his tennis is superb if not always to my liking. But yes he just cannot hurt Federer anymore with his game and add to that the air of invicibility that surrounds Federer at the moment. You could see from early on in the first set that match was already won.
Yes Roddick if he brings his best game he cn hurt Federer but that is a big if. I watched him play his first round match last week on no.1 court and although it was straight sets he was not that convincing and made heavy weather of it. But he has got better and better as the tournament has progressed. He needs to keep that forehand firing for sure and that combined with good serving than he has a chance. But first he has to get to the final.

You are right though Hewitt did nothing today except towards the end of the 3rd set
I certainly dont think both played flawlessly. Hewitt could have played better but he was clearly intimidated by Federer because the harsh truth is that he has nothing to hurt Fed with. People are raving about the gap b/w Fed and the number 2 player in the world. LOL. LOOK at teh number 2 player in the world before you start raving. It's Hewitt. He is a fighter and a grinder but tennis wise he is not going to offer us a toe to toe rivalry. The likes of Safin and Nadal and Roddick. Hewitt was not his usual brash self and the come ons, three that came, were strangled. LOL. I don't think Fed even had to get out of gear to win that match. He hit some of the most attackable second serves and Hewitt did nothing. Fed floated so many returns back and Hewitt did nothing.

Hewitt's balls had no pace, mostly short and Fed did nothing. It was just one of those dull matches.

I think Roddick's serves if firing can hurt Fed. I think if Roddicks forehand is firing especially the inside out to Federer's backhand, it can hurt Fed just like it did in the first set last year. Roddick made Fed look slow and laboured and we know Fed is a fabulous mover. Roddick just couldnt keep it up and I am not saying Fed wont beat whoever he meets. However, if you want a match and not an exhibition, it is my opinion that one is more likely to see one if Roddick is the opponent. Of course this all depends on what state of mind Roddick comes out in.

I am more interested in tomorrow to be honest.

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Message 11 - posted by U1650505 (U1650505) , Jul 1, 2005

I heard someone say last night when asked about Federer's weaknesses that if anything it was the high backhand but it was only a very small criticsm. Most could not find any at all . Even Brad Gilbert said double zero for any weakness.
I think Hewitt, being no good volleyer, made 22 out of 25 net points, when he followed up behind deep shots to Federer's backhand. But he served poorly with too many first serves missing and stayed back too much. Federer's best shots are his slice serve (especially the inside out from the left side) and his magnificent forehand, especially down the line and from half court. But if you can attack his backhand, it can crack.

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Message 12 - posted by learndirect-from-lexi (U1644819) , Jul 1, 2005

Mo Tennis, my message number 7 was for YOU since I could not imagine why you thought both players, played flawlessly. Urbande, you are absolutely correct. I'll tell you the funniest thing and a clear illustration of why you sometimes laugh at commentators... Fed hits his 5th mishit backhand and Andrew Castle says, something about how he rarely mishits that shot. Of course my jaw drops as that is a standard event in any Fed match..5-7 mishits on average..of course you trust, after another mishit, one of the commentators says something about how he so often mishits his groundies because of the long swing..I just burst out laughing. I am like, make up your minds people.

The truth is, Federer's b/h is the weaker shot. It is not a weakness and no great player has a weakness. They just have shots that are not as powerful as the other. Pressure Feds b/h and u will get errors. Top spin to his forehand on a slower surface and u will get errors. Becker said in a newsweek article that he believes with his game he would have given Fed and Rod a run for their money. I agree. Beckers game gave you no time to take your long swings.

There are ways to beat Fed but the thing about number one players is that they dont let you get to that weaker side. Plus, you are likely to get teh weakerr side working eventually.

The idea that Fed has no weaknesses or there is no way to play him is a myth. There is a way to play everybody. It depends on who the opponent is and how often the opponent can do it.

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Message 13 - posted by U1650505 (U1650505) , Jul 1, 2005

You have to admit though even his weaknesses are very small almost bordering on nit picking . But he is only human and no one is perfect.
And yes it is his backhand but even then most players would still kill for it.
Mo Tennis, my message number 7 was for YOU since I could not imagine why you thought both players, played flawlessly. Urbande, you are absolutely correct. I'll tell you the funniest thing and a clear illustration of why you sometimes laugh at commentators... Fed hits his 5th mishit backhand and Andrew Castle says, something about how he rarely mishits that shot. Of course my jaw drops as that is a standard event in any Fed match..5-7 mishits on average..of course you trust, after another mishit, one of the commentators says something about how he so often mishits his groundies because of the long swing..I just burst out laughing. I am like, make up your minds people.

The truth is, Federer's b/h is the weaker shot. It is not a weakness and no great player has a weakness. They just have shots that are not as powerful as the other. Pressure Feds b/h and u will get errors. Top spin to his forehand on a slower surface and u will get errors. Becker said in a newsweek article that he believes with his game he would have given Fed and Rod a run for their money. I agree. Beckers game gave you no time to take your long swings.

There are ways to beat Fed but the thing about number one players is that they dont let you get to that weaker side. Plus, you are likely to get teh weakerr side working eventually.

The idea that Fed has no weaknesses or there is no way to play him is a myth. There is a way to play everybody. It depends on who the opponent is and how often the opponent can do it.

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Mo Tennis, my message number 7 was for YOU since I could not imagine why you thought both players, played flawlessly. Urbande, you are absolutely correct. I'll tell you the funniest thing and a clear illustration of why you sometimes laugh at commentators... Fed hits his 5th mishit backhand and Andrew Castle says, something about how he rarely mishits that shot. Of course my jaw drops as that is a standard event in any Fed match..5-7 mishits on average..of course you trust, after another mishit, one of the commentators says something about how he so often mishits his groundies because of the long swing..I just burst out laughing. I am like, make up your minds people.

The truth is, Federer's b/h is the weaker shot. It is not a weakness and no great player has a weakness. They just have shots that are not as powerful as the other. Pressure Feds b/h and u will get errors. Top spin to his forehand on a slower surface and u will get errors. Becker said in a newsweek article that he believes with his game he would have given Fed and Rod a run for their money. I agree. Beckers game gave you no time to take your long swings.

There are ways to beat Fed but the thing about number one players is that they dont let you get to that weaker side. Plus, you are likely to get teh weakerr side working eventually.

The idea that Fed has no weaknesses or there is no way to play him is a myth. There is a way to play everybody. It depends on who the opponent is and how often the opponent can do it.

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Message 14 - posted by FeD_Ex (U1660478) , Jul 1, 2005

alex. as you say this match was boring do u think the previous 7 meetings between these 2 were boring. i thought it went just like their previous meetings with the inevitable result.

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Message 15 - posted by ericwhiteside (U1674810) , Jul 2, 2005

It seems to be a regular feature in the past few years that while there are few good matches up to and even including the quarters the semis and final on the women's side are far more compelling.

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Message 16 - posted by Big Al (U1646691) , Jul 2, 2005

Roger didnt play very well ! He was nervous, (semi final jinx in GS) his 1st serve percentage was way down yet he still won! And the commentators were saying Hewitt was playing his best. He really doesnt have anything to hurt Fed. who was clearly relieved to win anyway!

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