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Why Baghdatis will whip Federer on Sunday...

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Message 1 - posted by Dr_Sincere (U2021784) , Jan 27, 2006

1) Marcos has had an extra day's rest and he is only twenty years old, he will have a lot of energy.

2) Marcos has the crowd on his side, Federer was annoyed by the US fans against Agassi last year.

3) Marcos has destiny on his side, he has beaten three fantastic players.

4) Federer was pushed by Haas and Davydenko, he is still suffering from fitness.

5) Federer is playing with an ankle brace, this will limit his mobility to picking up drop shots.

Do you have any more? I have a strong feeling the Big Bagdaddy Man is going to pull a rabit out of the hat and beat Federer in a classic final.
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Message 2 - posted by HawkEye09 (U2565847) , Jan 27, 2006

Ive heard all those arguements before. It will be iteresting to see, but your arguement about destiny on his side is just a load of supersitious nonsense. I think Fed will raise his game on SUnday and it will be a step to far for Marcus. H0wever, I beleive Marcus will be a contender in the next 2 years. I hope...
1) Marcos has had an extra day's rest and he is only twenty years old, he will have a lot of energy.

2) Marcos has the crowd on his side, Federer was annoyed by the US fans against Agassi last year.

3) Marcos has destiny on his side, he has beaten three fantastic players.

4) Federer was pushed by Haas and Davydenko, he is still suffering from fitness.

5) Federer is playing with an ankle brace, this will limit his mobility to picking up drop shots.

Do you have any more? I have a strong feeling the Big Bagdaddy Man is going to pull a rabit out of the hat and beat Federer in a classic final.

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Message 3 - posted by vivahate88 (U1764838) , Jan 27, 2006

1. federer is only 24. lots of energy.
2. federer will have plenty of crowd support.
3. federer has tennis destiny on his side.
4. baghdatis has been pushed hard in 3 five-setters
5. baghdatis' game does not hinge on the drop-shot and nobody has better mobility on the court than roger federer. brace or no brace.

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Message 4 - posted by HawkEye09 (U2565847) , Jan 27, 2006

well said my friend!
1. federer is only 24. lots of energy.
2. federer will have plenty of crowd support.
3. federer has tennis destiny on his side.
4. baghdatis has been pushed hard in 3 five-setters
5. baghdatis' game does not hinge on the drop-shot and nobody has better mobility on the court than roger federer. brace or no brace.

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Message 5 - posted by WonderingMind (U1749637) , Jan 27, 2006

On reason No. 3:
Whe I was watching the Baghdatis v Nalbandian match, near the end during the rain break Vijay Amritraj, who commentates for Star Sports was raving about Baghdatis. Well who wasn't.

Guess what he said? If Baghdatis were to meet Federer in the final, Amritraj was convinced that Baghdatis would win because as he put it: It is written in the script and it is merely a case of Federer not having read it yet. Lol!

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Message 6 - posted by Flipside (U1389692) , Jan 27, 2006

It will go the distance, and then some.

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Message 7 - posted by AntoninusPius (U1686151) , Jan 27, 2006

Fed to win in 3 or at most 4. He's 3-0 against Baggy, he'll raise his game, & Baggy won't have much left in the tank. First 2 sets will be competitive, the rest won't.

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Message 8 - posted by fatpatcat (U1648746) , Jan 27, 2006

Vijay has made a few outrageous predictions in the past... this will be one of them.

p.s. the runners/ scramblers never had a chance with Roger. Nadal was lucky - he hadnt come through tough 5 setters in blistering heat then.

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Message 9 - posted by WonderingMind (U1749637) , Jan 27, 2006

Haha fatpatcat, I know. It was funny to hear this reciting from the Amritraj-scriptures!

After hearing some of the reports of this last match of Federer's I don't think Baghdatis will be able to win this one.

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Message 10 - posted by stratomaster (U2157089) , Jan 27, 2006

Baghdatis is going to get thrashed. If you're expecting an upset prepare to be dissapointed...

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Message 11 - posted by scvangils (U2026796) , Jan 27, 2006

As I've said before on a previous thread, the reason why I think Fed hardly ever loses, is that most people aren't able to get easy points of him. Even if they play very well, they have to maintain that level for at least 3 sets to beat him at a Grand Slam. Federer always wins his points relatively easy compared to his opponents, even though this is the result of his excellent footwork.

Nadal and Nalbandian are the only players I know who have that much weight in their shots that they can make Federer play hard points most of the time, because they can really put him under pressure.

In order for Baghdatis to win, he will not only have to serve very well, but also keep the error count in his return games lower than against Nalbandian.

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Message 12 - posted by Polarisgalaxy (U1697928) , Jan 27, 2006

Unlike Roddick, Ljubicic, or Nalbandian...Roger has already played Bagdathis in a slam..in facr Roger has beaten this guy three times already.In fact, the last time they played was at the Qatar Open and Roger won in straight sets....They also have placed I think last year at the Australian Open and at the 2004 US OPEN...so unlike Roddick or Ljubicic...He knows what to expect from this guy....I think the other top players were shocked or suprised or something like that..Roger knows he his game...

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Message 13 - posted by Jam_all_night (U2919120) , Jan 27, 2006

Bag will get his ass whooped. 3 staright sets for the guy who's won his first 6 GS finals!!

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Message 14 - posted by HawkEye09 (U2565847) , Jan 27, 2006

without doubt
Bag will get his ass whooped. 3 staright sets for the guy who's won his first 6 GS finals!!

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Message 15 - posted by scvangils (U2026796) , Jan 27, 2006

Haha fatpatcat, I know. It was funny to hear this reciting from the Amritraj-scriptures!

After hearing some of the reports of this last match of Federer's I don't think Baghdatis will be able to win this one.

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I saw the match and what I noticed is that Fed was very patient against Kiefer, really waiting for his chances, i.e. the short ball. I have a feeling he will use the same gameplan against Baghdatis.

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Message 16 - posted by Tenez (U1653885) , Jan 27, 2006

Fed to win in 3 or at most 4. He's 3-0 against Baggy, he'll raise his game, & Baggy won't have much left in the tank. First 2 sets will be competitive, the rest won't.

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I second that. Baghdatis will have to win the first to sets to have a chance to win, which I don't think will happen.

Regarding the crowd, yes he was bothered at the USO because there was 30000 people screaming and cheering Agassi (you cannot compare this with 20 cypriots fan) and yet Federer managed to silence the 30k crowd at the end. So no unless they all come down onto the court with a racket in both hands, I cannot Fed being troubled by them.

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Message 17 - posted by WonderingMind (U1749637) , Jan 27, 2006

Well as soon as I get home I'll watch the match. It did sound like a dissapointing end to the match for Kiefer. That was a pity for him I think.

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Message 18 - posted by Dr_Sincere (U2021784) , Jan 27, 2006

1. federer is only 24. lots of energy.
2. federer will have plenty of crowd support.
3. federer has tennis destiny on his side.
4. baghdatis has been pushed hard in 3 five-setters
5. baghdatis' game does not hinge on the drop-shot and nobody has better mobility on the court than roger federer. brace or no brace.

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1. Federer's fitness failed at the Masters Cup, he also looked weak against Haas for two sets. He clearly isn't at 100% yet.

2. Melbourne has the biggest Greek population outside of Greece, they will all be supporting Baghdatis. It will be like a Davis Cup match.

3. Federer has already won six slams, it would not be a fairytale for him to win another.

4. He is young and it is his first real taste of success, the adrenaline and fitness of youth will push him through.

5. Baghdatis is a clever player and he will know how to punish Federer's fitness. Kiefer had success with almost all his drop shots today, Marcos' coach will have noticed that.

Also, Baghdatis has played Federer before and he will know his game. He has displayed little fear against him in their previous matches. Marco has the advantage in that respect.

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Message 19 - posted by WonderingMind (U1749637) , Jan 27, 2006

Oh the crowd, yes eventhough they can generate a lot of noise it's clear that they are only a very small group, isn't it? Nothing to be bothered about at all.

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Message 20 - posted by AntoninusPius (U1686151) , Jan 27, 2006

Federer is going to answer this far more convincingly than I can, but for what it's worth:

1. Against Haas he was outplayed for 2 sets. Didn't look terribly tired in the 5th.

2. Do you know what Fed's Davis Cup record is? It's something like 18-1 or something.

3. It would be a fairytale for him to win the Slam.

4. Adrenalin & your first real taste of success often make you either overplay or choke, & even if you don't, they can't make you more talented than your opponent.

5. Kiefer succeeded with some of his drop-shots *when they actually went over the net*. It's a low percentage shot & Baggy will gift Federer a lot of points if he makes it a big part of his game plan.

6. Federer has played Baghdatis 3 times AND BEATEN HIM EVERY TIME. He knows Baggy's game & isn't afraid of him AND knows he can beat him. So actually FEDERER has the advantage here. Give me strength!
1. federer is only 24. lots of energy.
2. federer will have plenty of crowd support.
3. federer has tennis destiny on his side.
4. baghdatis has been pushed hard in 3 five-setters
5. baghdatis' game does not hinge on the drop-shot and nobody has better mobility on the court than roger federer. brace or no brace.



1. Federer's fitness failed at the Masters Cup, he also looked weak against Haas for two sets. He clearly isn't at 100% yet.

2. Melbourne has the biggest Greek population outside of Greece, they will all be supporting Baghdatis. It will be like a Davis Cup match.

3. Federer has already won six slams, it would not be a fairytale for him to win another.

4. He is young and it is his first real taste of success, the adrenaline and fitness of youth will push him through.

5. Baghdatis is a clever player and he will know how to punish Federer's fitness. Kiefer had success with almost all his drop shots today, Marcos' coach will have noticed that.

Also, Baghdatis has played Federer before and he will know his game. He has displayed little fear against him in their previous matches. Marco has the advantage in that respect.

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