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Message 1 - posted by Trundle182 (U2021223) , Sep 19, 2005

I cant believe no one has commented on Dementieva's performance from the weekend. She almost single-handley won the fed cup for Russia. People slag her off and dismiss her cos of her serve but this weekend she proved what a top player she is.
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Message 2 - posted by Flipside (U1389692) , Sep 19, 2005

I saw a few of the final matches over the weekend and Dementieva was definately impressive and showed a lot of determination. I'd say that she is a very underrated player for her ranking and manages to get a lot of balls back in play. I'd compare her to a Nalbandian-type female player - a solid all-round player with good movement with not much firepower. I predicted that France would win, but both Pierce and Mauresmo were both outplayed by Dementieva. A very close final and a demonstration that women's tennis is increasingly competitive at the highest level.

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Message 3 - posted by donnay141 (U1678608) , Sep 19, 2005

I recorded both of her singles matches wins. I watched it on France 2 on satellite. She's the ultimate team player. First name on the team sheet. Why? Because she battles to the end.

Just think how good this girl could be if she corrects the technical problems on her serve. She's a strong girl and even hit a few aces during the two days.

She definitely made the difference.

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Message 4 - posted by ghandster (U1331514) , Sep 19, 2005

Yep hats off to Dementieva

but also to the French for producing the first EVER fed cup tie with atmosphere to compare with Davis Cup. Pierce for reaching US Open final and then still playing and not only that but playing 9 sets and still looking fresher and stronger than the hapless Mauresmo (exactly where have here ranking points come from I don't remember her beating anyone of any worth this year).
The greatest Fed Cup Match EVER.

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Message 5 - posted by Trundle182 (U2021223) , Sep 19, 2005

I recorded both of her singles matches wins. I watched it on France 2 on satellite. She's the ultimate team player. First name on the team sheet. Why? Because she battles to the end.

Just think how good this girl could be if she corrects the technical problems on her serve. She's a strong girl and even hit a few aces during the two days.

She definitely made the difference.

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If she could serve better consistently i think she would definetly have won one of the grand slam finals she made it to and she probably would be close to number 1 in the rankings.

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Message 6 - posted by Clem (U2009743) , Sep 19, 2005

She only served six doubles against Pierce, and four against Mauresmo. She's getting there.

What I like is that even though Dementieva was central to Russia's win - Mauresmo said 'It's hard to analyse straight after a defeat but I think one of the reasons is Dementieva. She carried the team this weekend.' - Elena said 'We lose as a team and we win as a team. It's not just me who won it. It's all the girls and everybody working with the team.'

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Message 7 - posted by nunchuku (U1649105) , Sep 19, 2005

France's poor selection really cost them. Can't believe they drafted Mauresmo into the deciding doubles. They should have given that spot to Golovin who's got the best netplay out of their team. Tsk tsk tsk.

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Message 8 - posted by GS2 (U1644947) , Sep 19, 2005

Dementieva was certainly very impressive over the whole weekend. In the match against Pierce she was very solid - Made very few errors & kept the ball in play which is all she needed to do when Pierce self destructed in the first set tie break & the final set.

Against Mauresmo she really stepped up a gear & made some excellent shots. She definitely showed a lot of class in that match. Interestingly though some of her second serves were absurdly slow neither Pierce or Mauresmo did much with them.

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Message 9 - posted by GS2 (U1644947) , Sep 19, 2005

France's poor selection really cost them. Can't believe they drafted Mauresmo into the deciding doubles. They should have given that spot to Golovin who's got the best netplay out of their team. Tsk tsk tsk.

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Mauresmo was defenitely the weak link in the doubles - Pierce looked great, really fired up from her previous match but Mauresmo looked out of sorts all weekend - even her win against Myskina was more to do with Myskina's horrible form.

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Message 10 - posted by thefreedesign (U1664582) , Sep 19, 2005

glsam2: You were there, right? I only saw the first days matches on TV. But it looked like none of the four main players were playing particularly well? Up close, did it look like they were struggling to get to grips with the clay? Demetieva particularly, looked extremely devoid of movment against Pierce.

I'm happy that Russia won, disappointed with Myskina. Disappointed that Petrova didn't at least make the doubles (although I believe there's some history there). I'm surprised to hear that Mary played well in the doubles, but not surprised France lost that rubber - I would have thought that even Razzano might have gotten a play in the doubles.

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Message 11 - posted by U1714784 (U1714784) , Sep 19, 2005

It does seem that Dem played well; sadly I didn't get to see the matches. But it sound like a good DC tie, down to the wire and all. As it came down to the doubles, it was unlucky for the French. But their decision as to who to play for the doubels was suspect. It is true that Pierce and Amelie have never played together? Also, that Dechy was avaialble and she is s good experinced doubles player.

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Message 12 - posted by MrInvisible (U1645512) , Sep 19, 2005

Dechy would have been a better bet for the doubles, either with Mauresmo, or Golovin (I may be wrong, but seem to recall that Golovin won mixed doubles with Gasquet at Roland Garros a couple of years ago). Well done to Dementieva, but, as is often the case in Davis Cup matches, poor tactics by the team captain have been costly in this tie.

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Message 13 - posted by GS2 (U1644947) , Sep 19, 2005

glsam2: You were there, right? I only saw the first days matches on TV. But it looked like none of the four main players were playing particularly well? Up close, did it look like they were struggling to get to grips with the clay? Demetieva particularly, looked extremely devoid of movment against Pierce.

I'm happy that Russia won, disappointed with Myskina. Disappointed that Petrova didn't at least make the doubles (although I believe there's some history there). I'm surprised to hear that Mary played well in the doubles, but not surprised France lost that rubber - I would have thought that even Razzano might have gotten a play in the doubles.

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Yes I was there - really fabulous weekend!

Day 1 was the weaker day but the Dementieva v Pierce match was decent - It was all about Pierce really. Dementieva was very solid but not playing her best (that would come the next day) but Pierce was all over the place - average for most of the first set then falling apart in the tie break. In the second set she was average again early on but in the 4th or 5th game she made a stunning desperate lob from the floor eventually winning the point when she looked out of it which seemed to energise her & she swept through the rest of the set. Then in the third set she fell apart again - she looked very tired.

Mauresmo v Myskina though was one of the worst matches I had ever seen - it took them half an hour to reach 2-2 in the 1st set & not one good shot had been played! Myskina's strategy seemed to be to hit the ball straight at Mauresmo without any pace & towards the end it felt like her every shot went into the net. If it wasn't for the fact that Mauresmo also played badly Myskina the score could easily have been 6-0 6-0!

Day 2 was much better - Dementieva v Mauresmo was the most consistent match of the weekend - both players stepped up a gear from the Saturday & kept it going all the way through. Towards the end Demetieva was getting better & better - hitting some cracking groundstrokes - very very good match.

The match of the weekend though was Pierce v Myskina. Myskina played much much better than the day before. They were pretty evenly matched in the first set but then Pierce vanished early in the second & looked completely out of it. The turnaround was hugely dramatic, Pierce worked the crowd, pumped her fist after every point & found her A game. I've seen some people say Myskina choked but although her form dipped (not surprising in that atmosphere) she really just had no answer once Pierce got in the zone!

I didn't see all the doubles as we had to run to get our train home! From what I saw Pierce (still very pumped up) & Dementieva looked good as did Safina but I was really disappointed with Mauresmo who looked very uncertain at the net as she had all weekend really.

Overall it was a great weekend of tennis. Dementieva was obviously the top player but I thought the best tennis came from Pierce but she just couldn't sustain it for very long - she was certainly a lot more willing to come to the net than the others.

The atmosphere was fantastic - despite their reputation the French crowd were very fair 95% of the time even when things got very tense in the Pierce/Myskina match. I had never seen Mary Pierce live before but she's an incredibly charasmatic player to watch & the crowd really responded to her. They loved Mauresmo as well but watching her was a horribly tense experience for everyone!

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Message 14 - posted by GS2 (U1644947) , Sep 19, 2005

It does seem that Dem played well; sadly I didn't get to see the matches. But it sound like a good DC tie, down to the wire and all. As it came down to the doubles, it was unlucky for the French. But their decision as to who to play for the doubels was suspect. It is true that Pierce and Amelie have never played together? Also, that Dechy was avaialble and she is s good experinced doubles player.

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Pierce & Mauresmo have played together before a few times actually. Dechy isn't that highly ranked at doubles but she may have been a better choice than Mauresmo who was struggling the whole weekend. I think they made the right choice in playing Pierce who was really fired up from her singles win & from the bit of the doubles I saw looked much better than Mauresmo. Remember Pierce won the French Open doubles in 2000 & the Wimbledon mixed this year so even though she doesn't play often she can play.

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Message 15 - posted by U1714784 (U1714784) , Sep 19, 2005

Sounds like you had a great weekend g/slam! thanks for filling us in on the details. Shame you missed the doubles:)

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Message 16 - posted by donnay141 (U1678608) , Sep 19, 2005

Dementieva was certainly very impressive over the whole weekend. In the match against Pierce she was very solid - Made very few errors & kept the ball in play which is all she needed to do when Pierce self destructed in the first set tie break & the final set.

Against Mauresmo she really stepped up a gear & made some excellent shots. She definitely showed a lot of class in that match. Interestingly though some of her second serves were absurdly slow neither Pierce or Mauresmo did much with them.

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Believe me, banging away awkward slow serves with a lot of slice for winners is not easy. As Dementieva said tongue in cheek lasy year after beating Venus in Miami, its a weapon! :-D

Maybe thats why spin bowlers do so well in cricket. Its not easy to deal with

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Message 17 - posted by GS2 (U1644947) , Sep 19, 2005

Dementieva was certainly very impressive over the whole weekend. In the match against Pierce she was very solid - Made very few errors & kept the ball in play which is all she needed to do when Pierce self destructed in the first set tie break & the final set.

Against Mauresmo she really stepped up a gear & made some excellent shots. She definitely showed a lot of class in that match. Interestingly though some of her second serves were absurdly slow neither Pierce or Mauresmo did much with them.



Believe me, banging away awkward slow serves with a lot of slice for winners is not easy. As Dementieva said tongue in cheek lasy year after beating Venus in Miami, its a weapon! :-D

Maybe thats why spin bowlers do so well in cricket. Its not easy to deal with

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Well neither Pierce or Mauresmo could get a handle on it so that could be true! I think she just needs to remain confident & keep her double faults down (which she did this weekend) as when she did fault she missed by miles!

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Message 18 - posted by Trundle182 (U2021223) , Sep 19, 2005

I cant believe it. The first time i have ever started a thread and my words are used on the BBC tennis page as a soundbite. Not a bad start i think so.

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Message 19 - posted by EminenceGrise (U974873) , Sep 19, 2005

Three cheers for Elena! Last year's Russian heroine was Anastasia Myskina. This year, it was Elena who stepped up at the moment of truth. Clearly, Elena is hitting form at the moment - add that to the confidence gained by her US Open performance, her desire for revenge on Pierce and the key team spirit engendered by this Russian team and we have the recipe for success.

It is interesting how the team has been based round the players raised in Moscow under the tutelage of Safin's mother Rausa Islanova rather than foreign-based talent such as Kuznetsova (Spain), Petrova (Egypt) or Sharapova (USA)....

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Message 20 - posted by GS2 (U1644947) , Sep 19, 2005

Three cheers for Elena! Last year's Russian heroine was Anastasia Myskina. This year, it was Elena who stepped up at the moment of truth. Clearly, Elena is hitting form at the moment - add that to the confidence gained by her US Open performance, her desire for revenge on Pierce and the key team spirit engendered by this Russian team and we have the recipe for success.

It is interesting how the team has been based round the players raised in Moscow under the tutelage of Safin's mother Rausa Islanova rather than foreign-based talent such as Kuznetsova (Spain), Petrova (Egypt) or Sharapova (USA)....

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That is odd though Kuznetsova played last year & had that absolute meltdown in the final! Sharapova has apparently agreed to play next year - which could be interesting especially as Russia have be drawn to face Belgium in the 1st round! Why hasn't Petrova ever played Fed Cup though, she's probably the best doubles player of all the Russians.

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