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Message 1, Dec 20, 2008

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Message 2 - posted by zaxinc (U2334124) , Dec 20, 2008

That's a sinister canard, Foxman said. "It means they think Jews meet at Canter's Deli on Friday mornings to decide what's best for the Jews." Foxman's argument made me rethink: I have to eat at Canter's more often.

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Oh, I love Canter's. Fantastic pastrami sandwiches and open 24 hours for that post night out meal.

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Message 3 - posted by Clive55 (U1668584) , Dec 20, 2008

tsarion, I think you should go live in the Ukraine

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Message 4 - posted by tsarion (U10523621) , Dec 20, 2008

I am in the Ukraine,the only way is upok

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Message 5 - posted by mombser2 (U13021682) , Dec 21, 2008

If the Jews rule Hollywood- Then great.
It just goes to prove the talent that this minority in the world have.
In the arts, medicine, science and a host of other technology`s that have brought merit to the world-
Thank you for that article.

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Message 6 - posted by wiseraphael (U9522166) , Dec 21, 2008

Tsarion...the Jewish population of the world is about one fifth of one percent, about 13million.
Yet if you make a list of the "top twenty" people in any sphere of achievement....Music, Medicine, Entertainment, the Arts, etc etc there will always be several Jews in it.
I think that that should be highly commended, not made a subject of sarcasm or ridicule.
Perhaps the followers of other religions should maybe work and dedicate themselves as hard!

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Message 7 - posted by Clive55 (U1668584) , Dec 21, 2008

Tsarion, you may think you are going up
Well, the game is over for Ukrain which is going down. The Old arab "World" is going under & fragmenting
And Iran is crumbling fast
Your anti semitism is as irelevent today as the Dinosaurs
And alot less impressive

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Message 8 - posted by uniondues (U10244508) , Dec 21, 2008


<<In the arts, medicine, science and a host of other technology`s that have brought merit to the world->>
Lets hope the nukes inventor doesn't spoil it.

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Message 9 - posted by mombser2 (U13021682) , Dec 21, 2008

Lets hope the nukes inventor doesn't spoil it. ""
We all hope that!
And if their belligerent neighbors will leave them alone, then all would be well.
After saying that we know they will not (Dar al-Harb) Look it up!

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Message 10 - posted by itstoppedraining (U3694292) , Dec 21, 2008

"I am in the Ukraine,the only way is up"

Now there's a positive outlook.

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Message 11 - posted by orangeneugerbil (U10463137) , Dec 21, 2008

tsarion


Great post. ok.

That was just for starters. Here's the main course.

www.jewishvirtuallib...

And for the hors d oeuvres

mpala.files.wordpres...


So Jews are smart , hardworking and beautiful.

Tell us something new one day.

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Message 12 - posted by mombser2 (U13021682) , Dec 21, 2008

Orange- That was beautiful!

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Message 13 - posted by mombser2 (U13021682) , Dec 21, 2008

Hey!Moderator do not give up on us now- No need to delete this thread- As you can see the Jews and others are not offended by it-

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Message 14 - posted by mombser2 (U13021682) , Dec 21, 2008

Or maybe the moderator is feeling sorry for Tsarion, and is looking for a way out for him.?

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Message 15 - posted by glowingtrw (U9049232) , Dec 21, 2008

smug zionists... if you are so civilised, why do you need to demolish homes, build apartheid walls, destroy olive groves, restrict water supply, desecrate muslim graves and seize land.

www.yesh-din.org/sit...

the attached link is provides details of specific cases AS DOCUMENTED BY THE IDF.

so congratulations on the nobel prize winners, which is a remarkable acheivement. shame about the loss of any sense of morality or humanity.

you can be promised one thing - this level of injustice means there will never be peace, & one day the US wont be able to protect you.


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Message 16 - posted by Rosie IV (U2959985) , Dec 21, 2008

Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:26 GMT, in reply to glowingtrw in message 15

If the Palestinians are so civilised, why did they have to fire at least 17 Qassams and 24 mortar shells into Israel between the cease-fire's expiration on Friday morning and Saturday evening.

And if the Palestinians are so civilised, why did they have to fire, at the last count, probably more since then, another 15 Qassam rockets and several mortar shells into Israel in the morning and afternoon hours today?

That doesn't demonstrate any smugness on the part of Israelis and/or Zionists.

That just demonstrates the determination of Hamas and other Palestinian groups to destroy and demolish the whole of Israel, until she no longer exists.

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Message 17 - posted by queball (U2974327) , Dec 21, 2008

you can be promised one thing - this level of injustice means there will never be peace, & one day the US wont be able to protect you.
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I love threats on a mess board.

btw, Israel is quite capable of protecting itself.

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Message 18 - posted by mombser2 (U13021682) , Dec 21, 2008

smug Zionists...

One is entitled to be smug-
Especially when one is in the right-
Especially when one gives to the worlds good.
You talk of single individual things, which all have a debatable argument, however you can not argue the point on Dar al-Harb- The Jihadist house of war whos only desire is the complete Islamification of the world- Through either conversion or death-
So your complaint dissolves into thin air in comparison.

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Message 19 - posted by orangeneugerbil (U10463137) , Dec 21, 2008

glowingtr or is that wenders ?.

The reason why I ask is that all of a sardine Wenders has found her caps lock and you , glowingtr , are using the Naomi Klein / Chomski stream of predicatelessness adopted by Wenders for all of these years.

At any rate you start of your miasmic ramble by talking about Zionists. Thats' fine I am a Zionist but the OP was referring to Jews.Are you saying that the jews control the Zionists or that the Zionists control the world or that The Jews control the world or that the Zionists control the Jews.We are all as confused as you are.

At any rate as Zionism is intimatley wrapped up with the concept of Civilization and a Jewsish Civilization in particular lets digress from the OP's point about the acheivement and beauty of the Jews and focus on Zionism and Civilization.

Now the reason why the Israelis' need to demolish homes , and bear in mind we are talking about the Israelis and not the Zionists - I have yet to demolish anyone's house , is this.

These houses house terrorists intent on destroying not only the physical bricks and nortar but the HOMES of Israeli's. It is the DUTY of any CIVILIZED society to protect it's members.And if that means destroying the harbourage of those who wish to destroy it's own members then THAT IS THE DUTY OF A CIVILIZED COUNTRY.A CIVILIZED society looks after it's own. If it's must build a wall or a moat or a ravine to keep OUT those who would bring pain death and suffering to it's members then that is what it must do. As did the Ancient Chinese , one of the earlierst and greatest Civilizations.If in the construction of these defences , the building of which was imposed upon them by OUTSIDERS , olive trees must give way to a cordon sanitaire then , in the interts of maintaining the physical integrity of it's members who have a RIGHT to such integrity , then that is what a Civilized society must do.


Now to this allegation of 'desecrating muslim graves'.


First of all it's NOT on the list that you supplied.Secondly why do you say desecrating 'muslim' graves.Would desecrating Muslim graves be a more serious offence than desecrating a non-Muslim grave ?. To probably. And that is despicable.

And while we are on your list there are two things that should smack any rational person in the face like a wet fish. One is the brevity of the list.So in seven years or 84 months less than one incident a month. And notice how some of the incidents are as trivial as stealing a lighter. The second thing that confirms Israel as a CIVILIZED nation is the fact that all of these incidents have been investigated and subject to due process. With punishments allotted.Which would never ever in a million years happen in any of the surrounding countries.That Israel can still apply the rule of law to it's members in the front line of 60 years of naked hatred and aggression is in itself a monument to the Civilization of what Zionism wrought.

<<< you can be promised one thing - this level of injustice means there will never be peace, & one day the US wont be able to protect you.>>>


Thank you so so much for such a frank admission of the reason why Israel needs to exist and the fact that there are indeed people who are fixated upon it's destruction.

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Message 20 - posted by glowingtrw (U9049232) , Dec 21, 2008

your main device is to label anyone who is against israel's aggression & terror tactics in OP as a jihadi. And this then gives Israel carte blanche to do as it wills.

And dont try to compare the impact of the qassams against that of the IDF. I think thats a David & Goliath argument (no irony intended).

Nice try - you are attempting to merely cloud the issue. Like I said you cant perpetuate injustice on this scale indefinitely.

so we will keep posting facts about the IDF and the settlers & let the world make its mind up.

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