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Message 1, Aug 4, 2008
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Message 2 - posted by John-Wragg
(U1653814)
, Aug 4, 2008
pak
Your post is doomed for it has no link to a news item; not that the subject interests me any more in its wider context.
As mentioned on another thread I and most of the world are long since `numb' to the I/P issue.
Just the extremists remain - in I, in P and on this board and the board extremists are mildly interesting psychologically, for they are mainly of one persuasion.
J
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Message 3 - posted by Aktavist
(U7832440)
, Aug 4, 2008
Sorry here's the link. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/...<<As mentioned on another thread I and most of the world are long since `numb' to the I/P issue.>> Well if your son or brother who was 12 was killed, you may have a differnt view. <<Just the extremists remain - in I, in P and on this board and the board extremists are mildly interesting psychologically, for they are mainly of one persuasion.>> Get over yourself, this is a serious situation for world peace, your just happy in your little bubble.
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Message 4 - posted by John-Wragg
(U1653814)
, Aug 4, 2008
Pak
Your thread may now stay but remember you need a link or the mods will remove it or freeze it.
Your personal comments to me are `predictable' on your record and of course you do not know my personal involvement in the I/P debacle, including death, over the years - say 30 or more.
You could check my board history on the subject should you wish.
We shall not be `exchanging' opinions on this again.
John Wragg
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Message 5 - posted by wiseraphael
(U9522166)
, Aug 4, 2008
Shall we start to list the names of all the Israeli children murdered in cold blood at Sderot, Ma'alot, Kiryat Sh'mona, etc etc etc. The difference is of course that the killers of the Israeli children are regarded as heroes or martyrs by the Pals. The Israeli is under arrest.
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Message 6 - posted by THE GENERAL FFC
(U3042942)
, Aug 4, 2008
ssssh keep your voice down..
Voicing concern over the shooting of a 12 year old child ????
This is very anti semitic jihadi behaviour !!
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Message 7 - posted by THE GENERAL FFC
(U3042942)
, Aug 4, 2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shall we start to list the names of all the Israeli children murdered in cold blood at Sderot, Ma'alot, Kiryat Sh'mona, etc etc etc. The difference is of course that the killers of the Israeli children are regarded as heroes or martyrs by the Pals. The Israeli is under arrest.<<<<<<<<<
are you saying OFFICERS of a legitemate ARMED FORCES can be compared to crazed Terrorists ?? Thanks for your honesty.
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Message 8 - posted by wiseraphael
(U9522166)
, Aug 4, 2008
Very weak General. Scratch around a bit more, you might find a more valid excuse. My cousin's son was at a school in Ma'alot (have you even heard of it?). Pal "guerrillas" took over the school, lined 22 children between the ages of 12 and 16 up against a wall and machined gunned them in cold blood. Please don't make stupid comparisons. Even as a Pal supporter you must have some regard for the truth.
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Message 9 - posted by THE GENERAL FFC
(U3042942)
, Aug 4, 2008
wait a minute you were comparing the actions of an officer with a Terrorist, how is your answer to me addressing that in any sense ??
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Message 10 - posted by Aktavist
(U7832440)
, Aug 4, 2008
wiseraphael
<<My cousin's son was at a school in Ma'alot (have you even heard of it?). Pal "guerrillas" took over the school, lined 22 children between the ages of 12 and 16 up against a wall and machined gunned them in cold blood.>>
So as someon who has been affected by the murder of children, its strange why you havn't condemmed this act by the Israli police officer.
OR IS IT, that you think an arab life is worth less than a jewish one?
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Message 11 - posted by DreidelSpin
(U10203040)
, Aug 4, 2008
I would like to hear from the supporters of Israel their condemnation of this vile act by the police officer. ++++++
I don't condemn the 'alleged' actions of this police officer.
An 'allegation' is just an allegation! We can't condemn anyone if they are innocent until proven guilty.
If the boy was unlawfully shot then everyone would condemn such an act if proven.
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Message 12 - posted by My wife says I'm always right.
(U11177280)
, Aug 4, 2008
Of course, to tell the WHOLE story one could ask if Hamas or Hezbollah have ever arrested and charged a Palestinian with the murder of an Israeli child of which there have been many.
No.They fete those people and treat them as heroes.
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Message 13 - posted by Johnny_Mnemonic
(U1641680)
, Aug 4, 2008
I would like to hear from the supporters of Israel their condemnation of this vile act by the police officer.Quoted from
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It certainly sounds like a tragic incident but I don't think you understand how damaging these stories are to your cause when you draw people's attention to them. If you read the original story, what it actually says is that border patrol police were firing rubber bullets to break up a violent demonstration. No one knows whether the live bullet that killed the boy was fired by border patrol or Palestinian gunmen, but because of the allegation a border police officer is being held under house arrest subject to further investigation. In other words, Israel is a liberal democratic society, unlike the Arab tyrannies that surround it. Or is that the message you were trying to convey? P.S. Surely you realise that when Palestinians manage to kill some Israeli children, using rockets or suicide bombs or whatever, and then go out into the street and start celebrating, that presents the world with a different message? P.P.S. So if they don't teach analysis down at the student union anymore, here's the subtitles for the hard-of-understanding: Normal people aren't happy when a child is killed in these tragic circumstances. The Israelis investigate. The Palestinian 'activists' celebrate.
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Message 14 - posted by THE GENERAL FFC
(U3042942)
, Aug 4, 2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No one knows whether the live bullet that killed the boy was fired by border patrol or Palestinian <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
really ?? i would have thought it would be quite easy to tell if the bullet came from an Israeli gun or not. Wouldnt you ??
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Message 15 - posted by My wife says I'm always right.
(U11177280)
, Aug 4, 2008
Tragic as the death is,I think the supporters of Israel can hold their heads high since the accused is already under house arrest and there will be a five day inquiry into the incident.
If the officer, (And note it is an officer, they haven't simply arrested some squaddie.)I am sure he will be dealt with properly if he is guilty of any offence.
If the situation had been reversed, Hamas would be dancing in the streets as they have in the past, not arresting people and holding inquiries.
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Message 16 - posted by THE GENERAL FFC
(U3042942)
, Aug 4, 2008
and Hamas is comparable to the Israeli government in which way ??
why are you comparing terrorist organisations to a supposed legit government ??
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Message 17 - posted by bwanamkuba
(U5090012)
, Aug 4, 2008
DreidelSpin is right to urge caution until more reliable evidence is available. Remember the Mohammed Al-Durra claims? Turned out to be a staged incident for propaganda purposes. online.wsj.com/artic...Of course if it is true that he was deliberately shot by an Israeli soldier then any decent human being would condemn such an act and would wish for the perpetrator to be prosecuted and punished accordingly.
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Message 18 - posted by Johnny_Mnemonic
(U1641680)
, Aug 4, 2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No one knows whether the live bullet that killed the boy was fired by border patrol or Palestinian <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
really ?? i would have thought it would be quite easy to tell if the bullet came from an Israeli gun or not. Wouldnt you ??Quoted from
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If they've got the bullet (and are in no doubt it was the one that killed him) sure. But I haven't read anything that says they do. Have you?
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Message 19 - posted by Joss Ackland's Spunky Backpack nearly gone.
(U3240881)
, Aug 4, 2008
really ?? i would have thought it would be quite easy to tell if the bullet came from an Israeli gun or not. Wouldnt you ??Quoted from
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Well you'd have to be an expert in ballistics, for one. I doubt they mark all their bullets with the star of David.
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Message 20 - posted by DreidelSpin
(U10203040)
, Aug 4, 2008
Of course if it is true that he was deliberately shot by an Israeli soldier then any decent human being would condemn such an act and would wish for the perpetrator to be prosecuted and punished accordingly. +++++
And of course, all decent human beings would condemn the killing of innocent Israelis by point-blank range shooting too. Not only that but all decent human beings would hope that the relevant authorities, Hamas or Fatah, would hold those suspected of such killing, place them under house arrest while holding an enquiry into the incidents.
Don't Hamas and Fatah do this???? Eh!!!
But decent human beings would do such a thing. People who aspire to a recognised state as a member of the UN would HAVRE to do such things. I'm confused!
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