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//I see no evidence here that this money is for charitable purposes such as enabling refugees to settle, which would in my opinion be perfectly acceptable. Instead it ticks all the negative stereotype boxes, so why do it?//

How does the actions of the Israeli govt "encourage" anti-semitism?

Anti-semitism is the hatred of all Jews, everywhere, regardless of what their political viewpoints may be.

How does the actions of the Israeli govt encourage hatred of Jews in say, France or Australia?

//I quite agree.//

Clearly not, or you wouldn't have started this thread or said the following:

//However let's just go back to the real world. In that Iran and Israel are rivals for regional supremacy, and Iran's small Jewish population are already threatened by the "for us or against us" mob for having allegiance to BOTH Israel and Iran. If rich Jews were putting up money to resettle those Iranian Jews who had fled Iran that would be one thing, and nobody could really complain. This though is open bribery to force Iran's Jews to choose a side. And I would say that it is not in ignorance of the extra dangers that Iran's Jews face because of it, I would accuse the organisers of deliberately pressuring Iran's Jews to emigrate. Would you support that sort of pressuring?//

I ask again, what has this to do with the majority of Jews the world over?

Even if the people concerned are guilty of everything you say and more, it still does not "encourage" anti-semitism.

A bigot of any ilk needs little or no encouragement, as I say they will always find an excuse.

Incidentally, can I ask why after the recent failed terror attacks in the UK you didn't start a thread entitled:

"Islamaphobia is a bad thing, but doesn't this encourage it?"

Or after George Michael's recent arrest and/or conviction you didn't start a thread entitled:

"Homophobia is a bad thing, but doesn't this encourage it?"

Or everytime a woman in the public eye has said or done something wrong and/or stupid you haven't started a thread entitled:

"Sexism is a bad thing, but doesn't this encourage it?"

Why have you singled out anti-semitism?

//Some magnanimous jews are trying to look after their comrades who live in a country run by jew-haters. It is only natural to want the best for them so it seems like a genuinely caring offer.

It ticks every positive box actually - of course had it been an offer eminating from the Iranian govt. then it would be antisemitic.//

To be honest Helen I don't think this is even the reall issue here.

For me the real issue is yet another insidious attempt to link the actions of Israel to anti-semitism, and thus, in this case, suggest that because of Israel's actions anti-semitism is at least partly self-inflicted.

Both arguments are wholly wrong and socially irresponsible IMO.

///// To be honest Helen I don't think this is even the reall issue here.

For me the real issue is yet another insidious attempt to link the actions of Israel to anti-semitism /////

That is what you see. Which is no more than the mirror image of anti-semitism. In that respect Hitler, the Iranian president and Zionists are in total agreement - all want Jews to have special treatment, they only differ on the nature of that special treatment.

No the real issue is whether it's right to put a population who have split allegiances under pressure. Crass action is forcing them to make statements of loyalty to Iran, which will no doubt be used against them at some point. But why bother to say this, you don't want a sensible discussion, merely to wave your own flag.

//That is what you see.//

Yes, that is what i saw in the OP, YOUR OP.

//No the real issue is whether it's right to put a population who have split allegiances under pressure.//

If that's the issue you want to discuss then why did you mention anti-semitism in your OP?

Message posted by Bryan_Fontana
To be honest Helen I don't think this is even the reall issue here.
For me the real issue is yet another insidious attempt to link the actions of Israel to anti-semitism, and thus, in this case, suggest that because of Israel's actions anti-semitism is at least partly self-inflicted.
Both arguments are wholly wrong and socially irresponsible IMO"


To me it looked as if Israeli jews wanted to look after the interests of Iranian ones - and with good cause. Instead of blowing soemone up they express their solidarity with material assistance - albeit a lousy offer! Still, i thought it more of a magnamous gesture yet hart tried to get in his anti-semitic rubbish.

For me, the real issue is why my post was rejected? Hart crying his eyes out - silly boy

To me it looked as if Israeli jews wanted to look after the interests of Iranian ones - and with good cause. Instead of blowing soemone up they express their solidarity with material assistance - albeit a lousy offer! Still, i thought it more of a magnamous gesture yet hart tried to get in his anti-semitic rubbish.

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I am not anti-semitic. Never have been, never will be. If however you want to insult me with that slur that reflects more on you than on me.

But more to the point in question, can you not see there is a difference between offering help to a refugee and bribing someone with split loyalties to join your side? No obviously you can't, so thus your bias shows through.

"However, the Society of Iranian Jews dismissed them as "immature political enticements" and said their national identity was not for sale."

Purely as a general point if you want to help someone it might be better to find out whether they want your help in the first place.

//I am not anti-semitic. Never have been, never will be.//

In which case how do you explain your OP in which you imply and ideed attempt to justify, a link between Israel and anti-semitism?