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Message 1 - posted by Central Communities Team (U1097995) , Jul 24, 2007

Good morning,

The board has now moved to 'date order' format, as announced in this discussion
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...


* All new discussions should contain a link to a story about today's news.

Discussions that do not clearly discuss a current UK news story, or appear to be general political discussion or campaigning, may be closed, and off-topic posts may be removed.

Although we recognise that blogs and other individual/personal sources of information (sometimes called "citizen journalists") are an important part of today's media, we'd like you to keep your initial links to the more traditional news sources. Subsequent posts can of course then link
to other sources, including blogs - provided those links don't break the House Rules.

This is so that all users get a chance to read the new and original story before seeing how others begin to discuss it in context. Links to blogs on newspaper sites such as the UK's Guardian and Telegraph, and the BBC's own Blog Network (www.bbc.co.uk/blogs ), will also not beallowed as the basis for an initial post when starting a new discussion.

* Please don't start new threads on a news article if one already exists; duplicate/repeat threads will be closed, so please have a quick check to see if there's an existing conversation on the news story already. There's always a certain rush to report a breaking story, or alert other users to an update to an existing - if someone else beats you to it please don't repeat the update.

* Discussions about TV and radio documentaries/programmes, etc. are not considered to be "News" unless those issues are also being reported in the regular news outlets.

* Links to 'comment' or the editorial pages of online newspaper sites are not considered to be today's news. If you think they are about today's news then just find and link to the leading front page news story instead, you can add links to editorial pages later on in the discussion
if relevant to the news story.

* These rules will apply even in the event of breaking news stories - if you see or hear a news flash on TV or radio, please wait until one of the news web sites has updated their pages and provide the link. This shouldn't hold things up too much - in most UK newsrooms today, new
stories are generally available pretty much simultaneously on air and online, and many of our users already use newsreaders, RSS feeds and SMS alerts to keep up to date with the news.

Example:

"Life forms discovered on planet Mars" - the story would be allowed as an initial post if backed up by a link to a news report in a traditional news outlet. It would not be allowed as an initial post if the *only* link provided is to a blog (we don't want to promote the web rumours and
conspiracy theories that crop up everyday, in various guises). A Channel 4 documentary about extraterrestrial life forms could be referenced in a subsequent post to the same discussion - but not as an initial post - for example, "Last night's C4 programme said there was increasing evidence of life on Mars" - would *not* be counted as news.

In general then the rule for all board members to keep in mind when starting a new discussion is "Is my message about today's news - and can I link to where it's being reported on the Web?"

Hopefully sticking to these guidelines will help to keep the forum on topic.

And please, *Everyone* on here deserves to be treated with due respect, please be polite to other board users.
       

Message 2 - posted by DavidHankey (U1689865) , Jul 24, 2007

Crikey, CCT, I'll try and remember all these new rules - it's like being back at school!!

Have a nice day.

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Message 3 - posted by chrissycornercrew (U4690292) , Jul 24, 2007

Fine, but for just how long can one discuss water?

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Message 4 - posted by skinningroveparker (U2412315) , Jul 24, 2007

Crikey, CCT, I'll try and remember all these new rules - it's like being back at school

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I think you will find they are highly qualified media studies graduates.

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Message 5 - posted by Central Communities Team (U1097995) , Jul 24, 2007

Hi David

I can summarise it in one line...

Include a link to a current news story!

Have a good day you too! smiley

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Message 6 - posted by Barney McGrew (U3275295) , Jul 24, 2007

Links to 'comment' or the editorial pages of online newspaper sites are not considered to be today's news.

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Just to nitpick...

Sometimes one reads an item from a columnist which is news but little known news which is not reported in the papers generally.

For instance...

"Her Majesty is installing a hydroelectric plant on the river near her favourite home.
It will be used in tandem with a gas-powered unit and it is hoped it will be generating enough electricity to power the equivalent of 400 houses by spring next year."

Which could be used to start a discussion on global warming etc.

Allowable,not allowable or decided on its merits?

( Quote from www.dailymail.co.uk/...

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Message 7 - posted by Central Communities Team (U1097995) , Jul 24, 2007


Fine, but for just how long can one discuss water?

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You can start new discussions about the flooding while it's still happening and on the news - but of course you can discuss it endlessly now, by posting to any of the older discussions already on the board.

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Message 8 - posted by ARTISTICJEB (U2560717) , Jul 24, 2007

I hope this isn't going to be a recipe for an incredibly dull 'doom and gloom' board - it rather sounds like it to me! sadface

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Message 9 - posted by chrissycornercrew (U4690292) , Jul 24, 2007

The point I obviously failed to make was that there is little else in the news feeds today.

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Message 10 - posted by skinningroveparker (U2412315) , Jul 24, 2007

CCT

You can start new discussions about the flooding while it's still happening and on the news

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Can we discuss the causes of flooding? Damage to the environment as a result of over population and mass immigration, incompetent and corrupt government and a biased and politicised media?

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Message 11 - posted by RedRedRobin (U838052) , Jul 24, 2007

"The point I obviously failed to make was that there is little else in the news feeds today."

That is what I thought you meant, until CCT confused me.

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Message 12 - posted by Central Communities Team (U1097995) , Jul 24, 2007

Hi Barney

I'd go with this one - it's out of date now, but this is the kind of link you should be looking for.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/...

Royals to go 'green' at Windsor
Final permission has been given to plans for a £1m hydro-electric power plant to supply Windsor Castle.

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Message 13 - posted by bright-eyedPatsyann (U6989607) , Jul 24, 2007

posted by DavidHankey

Crikey, CCT, I'll try and remember all these new rules - it's like being back at school!!

Have a nice day.

I've forgotten already - have to print this off and stick it on the wall for reference! You can't beat being treated like a moron.

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Message 14 - posted by Chappati Lover (U2460282) , Jul 24, 2007

<<<<Although we recognise that blogs and other individual/personal sources of information (sometimes called "citizen journalists") are an importantpart of today's media, we'd like you to keep your initial links to the more traditional news sources. >>>>

Thank you Communities teams.

This is a brilliant idea. For too long we have had threads started based on the views of racist/islamophobic bloggers who spend all day roaming the internet for anti-muslim stories and then spreading their hatred. Hopefully this new system and new rules will put a stop to Islamophobic, and often racist comments on these boards.

I am also glad that you guys went to the length of informing us that we have people on here with multiple ID's who use it to no only spread their own lies and propoganda, but to also agree with their own posts. I always suspected the views on here were out of touch with wider society as I come into contact with many different people in my work daily, and have never expereince or detected the hate and racism so many on here (well a handful, along with their multiple logins) spout. You guys have just confirmed that these people are in an exteme minority, so extreme, they create multiple ID's to back their own views, which frankly is sad.

But overall i think the changes you guys are putitng in place will hopefully put an end to the open Islamophobia, hate and racism on these boards and will stop people with certain agenda's from spreading their hate. It will also, hopefully, make it easier to spot those with multiple ID's although I suspect we all pretty much had an idea of who the suspects are.

Thank you for your time.

Kindest regards

IronNaz

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Message 15 - posted by Central Communities Team (U1097995) , Jul 24, 2007


Hi albertcornercrew,

The point I obviously failed to make was that there is little else in the news feeds today.

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Well that's okay. If there's no real *new* news today then the older conversations are still there, post to them and discuss the older issues.

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Message 16 - posted by skinningroveparker (U2412315) , Jul 24, 2007

IN

Thank you Communities teams

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Sycophant

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Message 17 - posted by Central Communities Team (U1097995) , Jul 24, 2007

Hi Patsy


I've forgotten already - have to print this off and stick it on the wall for reference! You can't beat being treated like a moron.

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We're trying to make this clear, so that people don't need to make lots of posts saying 'why was my post removed?'

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Message 18 - posted by Barney McGrew (U3275295) , Jul 24, 2007

I'd go with this one - it's out of date now, but this is the kind of link you should be looking for.

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I must have missed that one. smiley

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Message 19 - posted by Central Communities Team (U1097995) , Jul 24, 2007


Oh go on skinningroveparker!

Be nice, I bet you can be! smiley

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Message 20 - posted by Central Communities Team (U1097995) , Jul 24, 2007


Iron Naz

Great, glad you like the idea. But please, don't bait people. We're making these changes to attempt to help people get along a bit better, give it a go please, all of you.

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