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Message 1 - posted by WIT-U-PEEPUL (U2759982) , Jan 12, 2006

What exactly is it? It seems a lot of ignorant, right leaning threads refer to it.
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Message 2, Jan 12, 2006

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Message 3 - posted by RedRedRobin (U838052) , Jan 12, 2006

PC; political correctness is adherence to a dominant political view. It can be benign, acting to introduce civility or it can be a way of removing debate, by disregarding or outlawing certain viewpoints without thought, just because they don't fit with the political orthodoxy being championed.

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Message 4 - posted by DickusQuickly (U1822377) , Jan 12, 2006

Don't you mean yoghurt knitting, sandal wearing, tree-hugging, terrorist appeasing, kiddyfiddling, islamofascist, PC filth, scum brigade.

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You forgot the muesli eating, tofu crunching, Guardian reading beardies.

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Message 5 - posted by Gavin Corder II (U2251817) , Jan 12, 2006

Excellent definition Six!
Don't you mean yoghurt knitting, sandal wearing, tree-hugging, terrorist appeasing, kiddyfiddling, islamofascist, PC filth, scum brigade.

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Message 6 - posted by Clint (U2029488) , Jan 12, 2006

PC is just another tool used by the government and the brain dead, souless chattering classes to restrict what people can and can't say or do to try and mould society into the way they think it should be.

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Message 7 - posted by U1747672 (U1747672) , Jan 12, 2006

PC; political correctness is adherence to a dominant political view. It can be benign, acting to introduce civility or it can be a way of removing debate, by disregarding or outlawing certain viewpoints without thought, just because they don't fit with the political orthodoxy being championed.

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That's an interesting definition. Seeing as the majority of the public were in favour of the 90 day detention, why were those who objected slated as being PC on here?

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Message 9 - posted by RedRedRobin (U838052) , Jan 12, 2006

Presumably people felt that those objecting to 90 day detention were doing so due to their adherence to the soft-left orthodoxy that seems to be the most virulent form of political correctnes in this country at the moment.

Certainly at the moment political correctness is generally associated with the soft-left orthodoxy of the public sector and areas of the media.

PC; political correctness is adherence to a dominant political view. It can be benign, acting to introduce civility or it can be a way of removing debate, by disregarding or outlawing certain viewpoints without thought, just because they don't fit with the political orthodoxy being championed.


That's an interesting definition. Seeing as the majority of the public were in favour of the 90 day detention, why were those who objected slated as being PC on here?

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Message 10 - posted by Parker,Solomon & Korchnoi (U1705615) , Jan 12, 2006

To me PC means being tolerant,liberal and treating the next person as you would like to be treated yourself.Come and join us.

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Message 11 - posted by U1747672 (U1747672) , Jan 12, 2006

Presumably people felt that those objecting to 90 day detention were doing so due to their adherence to the soft-left orthodoxy that seems to be the most virulent form of political correctnes in this country at the moment.

Certainly at the moment political correctness is generally associated with the soft-left orthodoxy of the public sector and areas of the media.

PC; political correctness is adherence to a dominant political view. It can be benign, acting to introduce civility or it can be a way of removing debate, by disregarding or outlawing certain viewpoints without thought, just because they don't fit with the political orthodoxy being championed.


That's an interesting definition. Seeing as the majority of the public were in favour of the 90 day detention, why were those who objected slated as being PC on here?

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Seeing as Blair won an election not so long ago, and it was his policy, and there were opinion polls suggesting public support, the majority political opinion was precisely the opposite of the 'soft-leftie' opinion. This definition is flawed.

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Message 12 - posted by intheruns (U1781237) , Jan 12, 2006

Basically after many years of supporting the Russian Communist model, Stalin's purges against everyone he did not favour and its subsequent failure, the so called chattering classes can not quite get its head around freedom of speach. Censorship of all and sundry is the only way forward for the people that don't share their world viewpoint. However the victims are those which experience the daily inequalities that the PC brigade are inflicting on us all.

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Message 13 - posted by intheruns (U1781237) , Jan 12, 2006

Presumably people felt that those objecting to 90 day detention were doing so due to their adherence to the soft-left orthodoxy that seems to be the most virulent form of political correctnes in this country at the moment.

Certainly at the moment political correctness is generally associated with the soft-left orthodoxy of the public sector and areas of the media.

PC; political correctness is adherence to a dominant political view. It can be benign, acting to introduce civility or it can be a way of removing debate, by disregarding or outlawing certain viewpoints without thought, just because they don't fit with the political orthodoxy being championed.


That's an interesting definition. Seeing as the majority of the public were in favour of the 90 day detention, why were those who objected slated as being PC on here?


Seeing as Blair won an election not so long ago, and it was his policy, and there were opinion polls suggesting public support, the majority political opinion was precisely the opposite of the 'soft-leftie' opinion. This definition is flawed.

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Check your facts, Blair did not get anywhere near the majority, especially in England

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Message 14 - posted by Enriched Uranium (U2943960) , Jan 12, 2006

PC is not an ideology per se but a negativity concerning the established norm. PC is not concerned with an imposition of another order but the destruction of the present, it is a deconstructionalism. The politically correct are a franchised group working to undermine the present western cultures and were initially aiming to weaken the social structures to the extent that people would more readily accept the teachings of the Marxist way of thinking. After the cold war and the fall of the wall PC has become aimless but perhaps more dangerous. Marxism may have been put on the back burner but there is another more insidious threat ready to take over the host.

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Message 15 - posted by Bobby Dazzler (U1645574) , Jan 12, 2006

To me PC means being tolerant,liberal and treating the next person as you would like to be treated yourself.Come and join us.

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To me being PC is being too tolerant and too liberal.

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Message 16 - posted by U1747672 (U1747672) , Jan 12, 2006

Presumably people felt that those objecting to 90 day detention were doing so due to their adherence to the soft-left orthodoxy that seems to be the most virulent form of political correctnes in this country at the moment.

Certainly at the moment political correctness is generally associated with the soft-left orthodoxy of the public sector and areas of the media.



That's an interesting definition. Seeing as the majority of the public were in favour of the 90 day detention, why were those who objected slated as being PC on here?
PC; political correctness is adherence to a dominant political view. It can be benign, acting to introduce civility or it can be a way of removing debate, by disregarding or outlawing certain viewpoints without thought, just because they don't fit with the political orthodoxy being championed.




Seeing as Blair won an election not so long ago, and it was his policy, and there were opinion polls suggesting public support, the majority political opinion was precisely the opposite of the 'soft-leftie' opinion. This definition is flawed.


Check your facts, Blair did not get anywhere near the majority, especially in England

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If you read again you'll see that I didn't say he did. I was countering the 'dominant polical view' measure.

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Message 17 - posted by thomas betham (U1083685) , Jan 12, 2006

PC stands for pause & consider before pressing the send button ok

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Message 18 - posted by Gary (U1636488) , Jan 12, 2006

George Orwell was right it's the thought police writ large.

And when Churchill made his infamous "Gestapo speech" in 1945, whilst the words were ill chosen his underlying view was correct.

"No socialist system can be established without a political police. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance"

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Message 19 - posted by RedRedRobin (U838052) , Jan 12, 2006

Indeed it is because political correctness is seeking to impose an orthodoxy that is not the majority view in the general populace that it causes such friction.

As I mentioned the current soft-left political correctness springs from the public services and parts of the media, not the majority of the people.


Seeing as Blair won an election not so long ago, and it was his policy, and there were opinion polls suggesting public support, the majority political opinion was precisely the opposite of the 'soft-leftie' opinion. This definition is flawed.

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Message 20 - posted by intheruns (U1781237) , Jan 12, 2006

Presumably people felt that those objecting to 90 day detention were doing so due to their adherence to the soft-left orthodoxy that seems to be the most virulent form of political correctnes in this country at the moment.

Certainly at the moment political correctness is generally associated with the soft-left orthodoxy of the public sector and areas of the media.







That's an interesting definition. Seeing as the majority of the public were in favour of the 90 day detention, why were those who objected slated as being PC on here?
PC; political correctness is adherence to a dominant political view. It can be benign, acting to introduce civility or it can be a way of removing debate, by disregarding or outlawing certain viewpoints without thought, just because they don't fit with the political orthodoxy being championed.




Seeing as Blair won an election not so long ago, and it was his policy, and there were opinion polls suggesting public support, the majority political opinion was precisely the opposite of the 'soft-leftie' opinion. This definition is flawed.


Check your facts, Blair did not get anywhere near the majority, especially in England


If you read again you'll see that I didn't say he did. I was countering the 'dominant polical view' measure.

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Well if the dominant political view in this country is to take us into wars which have little relevance, promote policy based on background rather than ability, plunge the country into deeper national debt and have economic policy built upon the sands of personal debt then this country deserves all that it gets!

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