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  • Message 61

    , in reply to message 59.

    Posted by Lucys mummy (U13524475) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    I think they're both really lovely, and my little girl (aged 3) is absolutely fascinated by Cerrie. We have never come across any 'disabled' person in our wanderings so far, and it has given me the perfect opportunity to answer all her questions without her pointing at a complete stranger in the street.
    Anyway, isn't 'disabled' a bit of a harsh description of Cerrie, she is very very pretty, and has a lovely figure, and is obviously very in tune with the children. Dosn't look to me as though she thinks she has a disability at all!
    Good on the both of you!

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  • Message 62

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    Posted by hatcher56076 (U13802481) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    I cannot believe someone spoke of Cerrie as quiet. Myself and my childen find her extremely manic, and my 4 year old thinks she is quite simply scary. non of this is down to her missing limb but her awful manner. Three days in is not a long time I know, but it is three days too long, and we have switched off as of tonight. No warning of the departure of two very much loved presenters was never going to be a good idea, but no explanation or coverage, and then two frankly unprepared replacements has proved horrendous.
    Thank you very much BBC.

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  • Message 63

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    Posted by geminiCornucopia (U13775238) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    [Edited by Hosts]

    You think all this is about being politically correct?? What, we'd better give the poor disabled girl a job?? I know i clearly overestimate people, but I still find it hard to accept such ignorant attitudes exist at this time, in this country.

    newsflash - the world is made up of all sorts of people. People can still be just right for a job is their body is less than perfect.

    Do you want your children to only see supposed flawless people on telly? How long are you intending to shield them from real life?? Do you truly think this attitude is healthy??

    How do you explain to a 3 year old why she has half an arm? Well, how about how I did it - I said 'no one's bodies grow the same when they are in their mummy's tummy and some people's don't grow properly or grow all the right bits. [Edited by Hosts] She certainly isn't disturbed in the slightest.

    I think that a channel that targets toddlers and young children is perfect for continuing to expose them to real life.

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  • Message 64

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    Posted by Nell (U13800271) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    Here, here!

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  • Message 65

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    Posted by Nell (U13800271) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    I meant, Hear, hear! LOL.

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  • Message 66

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  • Message 67

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    Posted by rachel (U13795197) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    have you not watched something special with justin who specifically works with kids who have special needs i find that it is the attitude of parents that rub off on kids so if you are freaked so are your kids ( by the way i work with people who have special needs and see this attitude all the time in a proffessional way)

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  • Message 68

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    Posted by MrsTumble (U13760160) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

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    I do also think she and alex both are a little quiet to be honest, just while they get over the nerves. I do think they have the potential to be fantastic replacements for Chris and Pui.

    You're right, three days is not long enough, and until they settle in, I think that the motto should be 'if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all'. Something which I was always taught, and possible why I am 'a lover not a fighter', as my old (hippy) mate always says. Once they are settled in and know the whole idea of it, then make your mind up.

    I did a presentation today. I stood up in front of SIX people and I was shaking from head to toe. I wanted to run and cry. I was stuttering, losing my flow, and screwing things up. Cerrie, and Alex too, are standing in front of the nation next to a complete stranger trying to reach the kids on their level and impress their parents. I really don't think you can do better. Until you can, give them a chance.

    As of no warning - what was the Chris and Pui message from Beebie on here? A hallucination?!! I'm sorry, but I'm really disgusted that everyone is reacting the way they are.

    For example, you wouldn't have had to state 'not because of her missing limb' if others weren't being rude about it.

    Completely agree with the lady above you. We may not have disabilities around us other than my deaf grandma, and I think this opportunity is great for my daughter to naturally accept 'each as their own'.

    I really think you should give her chance.

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  • Message 69

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    Posted by gorrestfrump (U13242198) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    I am amazed at these comments, in particular that people are surprised at the departure of Chris and Pui. This was on the message board before Christmas!
    Things in life change a lot. Kids are very adaptable, it's us who aren't. I'm actually more concerned about the amount of repeats on Cebeebies.
    I also loved the song, 'goodbye sun, hello moon', and that's gone, but hey ho life goes on. And whatever happened to Bebe and Bracken?!

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  • Message 70

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    Posted by MrsTumble (U13760160) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    Nell, you were spelt right the first time round. Don't agree with your attitudes though in the slightest.

    Agree a million percent with tinyleosmum. There was a campaign the other year - does anyone remember the posters


    You really need t show your kids openmindedness. I also worked with special needs kids, and even a little 7 yr old dyspraxic had been made aware by society that he never fitted in. It's such a shame for them. The grins he used to give me, from ear to ear because I was someone who he could see as a friend, and who would come and play football with him and the others, without being paid or anything. I tell ya, there's nothing that can compare to that sector of work, as tinyleosmum can probably back up.

    It's just a shame some people are made to feel as though they are different by the rest of society.

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  • Message 71

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    Posted by MrsTumble (U13760160) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    nell, your spelling was right first time round with 'here here', not that I agree in the slightest with what you are agreeing with.

    As tinyleosmum says, it is wrong that certain people are made to feel like outcasts. At the age our kids are, it's because of the parents. I'm sorry if that's offensive but it's true!

    There was a poster campaign a few years ago, entitled


    Spot on. (Also, the behavioural approach to psychology, think it's operant conditioning? if not, then classical conditioning. was a bit bored that lesson!)

    Whatever you think, don't let it rub off on your kids! I'm not keen on Our Planet, but I will pretend to like it for my daughters' sake. And Suzie Sweet (Balamory) terrifies me! But I wont let my daughter see that! Don't pass your judgements onto your kids. XXXXXXX

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  • Message 72

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    Posted by tiasmom (U13802887) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    what happend 2 pui and chris?

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  • Message 73

    , in reply to message 24.

    Posted by Lisamummy1 (U13802900) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    I thought I was the only parent who was sad to see Chris and Pui missing on CBeebies, however, looking on this discussion board for the first time I can see my husband and I are not the only ones to notice their sudden departure. As highlighted by another parent, the children probably won't notice but we do! Seeing new presenters is quite strange and we really miss Chris singing the bedtime song. The two new presenters seem very nice but still have a little settling in to do. Please can cbeebies let us know what Chris and Pui are doing and when we are next seeing them? PS Very pleased to see that Sid and Andy are still around - good to see familar faces smiley - smiley

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  • Message 74

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    Posted by NaomisMum (U13802939) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    Like so many others, my little 'un and I are both very disappointed that Chris + Pui just disappeared, unceremoniously! CBeebies will not be the same without them smiley - sadface

    I think that if we had been better prepared for the change, then the new presenters would've been accepted a lot better, e.g. if the new presenters had appeared WITH Chris + Pui over the space of a few days, then this would've helped us + our children to 'go with the flow' of the transition. BBC defo went about this the wrong way IMO, and it has clearly not gone down well at all with the viewers, which in turn has not helped the new presenters' confidence, assuming they have read some of these comments!!

    Personally I think the move is a bad one which will result in a loss of viewers - me (oops, I mean my daughter) for one. We do switch over to another channel now, as soon as Sid waves us goodbye. This is because (a) we miss Chris + Pui and (b) we don't really like the new presenters and (c) both of us CAN'T STAND In the Night Garden.

    Sorry CBeebies, but you will be seeing a lot less of us, or rather we will be seeing a lot less of you. Bring back Chris + Pui and we will come back too smiley - winkeye

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  • Message 75

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    Posted by MrsTumble (U13760160) on Wednesday, 28th January 2009

    Oh My Gosh! I have just read in my spare time, p1, p3 and the previous pages messages, and I CANNOT believe the mods have allowed them!! Why is it that my daughter who is 2y 2m, and a guys kid on here at 2 and half y do not particularly care that she has half an arm missing, but others can say their kids were freaked out? It is utterly appauling!

    I'm sorry, parents, but you will get kids asking you awkward questions about everything! [Edited by Hosts]

    Do you teach your kids right and wrong? Do you teach your kids about road awareness? Do you teach you kids about animals? Do you teach your kids not to eat wax crayons?

    I do. I kneel to her level or sit her on my knee, and we speak about them. If ever a question arises about why my daughter has two hands and the nice lady on tele doesn't, I will simply kneel to her level or sit her on my knee, and make an explanation for her. [Edited by Hosts]

    It is awful that a disability has taken over a thread that is supposed to be about acting credentials.

    Think they're both doing fantastic. We love em, and I adore Alex's little accent!! smiley - biggrin Nature Chris may have competition as my number two haha!!

    Can people please look past her disability? The girl has a beautiful smile, is bouncy and I really think she has potential to be fantastic!

    Makes me laugh people are upset about losing 'Poi'!! If you liked her that much, learn to spell her name!!! It's Pui!!

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  • Message 76

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  • Message 77

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    Posted by PinkCbeebiesMummy (U13803185) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    Hi All. I agree that we should of been given a bit of notice of Chris & Pui's departure. My daughter loved them so much, even me and my partner miss them too. Cerrie & Alex have got big shoes to try and fill, but I reckon over time they will.

    The issue with Cerrie's arm, I personally think some people are overreacting, at the end of the day, it gives us parents a opportunity to teach our children that no one is the same and things like this happen, plus with her now becoming a regular face in our children's life, it will
    make it easier for them to accept and make it easier on them if a child in their school/playgroup have a missing limb/body part.

    I would like to know what actually happened to Chris & Pui, can anyone tell me ?

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  • Message 78

    , in reply to message 71.

    Posted by lilandtedsmum (U13773661) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    Please can we all be aware that people aren't necessarily commenting on the message above theirs. At the bottom of every message on the right hand side you can click to see which message the person is responding to.

    Poor Nell seems to have been given a hard time but when you check she was actually responding to a very positive message.

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  • Message 79

    , in reply to message 78.

    Posted by wonderfulmummyof2 (U13774450) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    Do you know reading this it sounds like no one has ever seen a person with a missing limb before. We are all meant to be grown ups on this,but reading some messages I'm not so sure??

    I couldn't care less if she was green with feet on her head, as long as my son likes her that is all that matters as and lets not forget (like I sometimes do) this channel is for the children not us.

    And if your children are a little confussed about her arm then it gives the parents the perfect opportunity to sit them down and explain smiley - winkeye xx

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  • Message 80

    , in reply to message 4.

    Posted by Gilly (U13800062) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    Regarding the comments questionning 'the logic' of hiring Cerrie, I posted a reply a couple of days ago, but was informed that I could only post it if I didn't mention the nickname of the person I was responding to in case I caused offence. So here's a slightly amended version as requested, although, because the moderation process took so long, I'm sure it's mostly been said much better since!

    I was quite taken aback by the attitudes expressed. Do people really believe that there's something inappropriate or somehow distasteful in having a person with a disability presenting children's TV? Surely this is the perfect age group to accept people's differences as run of the mill, and not something to be pigeonholed in disabled programme timeslots.

    Maybe if parents who feel this way can overcome their own discomfort they could then help their children understand that there is nothing to be 'freaked out' about, instead of reinforcing the idea that a person with a disability should be feared or avoided.

    My two year old and four year old haven't even noticed (or if they have, don't find anything worth mentioning), so it may be more to do with the parent's reactions rather than the child.

    Hopefully, Cerrie and Alex will become cbeebies-household names on their own merits, and will end up just as beloved as Chris, Pui, Sid and Andy continue to be.

    That last bit originally started out as 'I'll bet' rather than 'Hopefully', but after another couple of days watching them, I'm not as confident as I'd like to be. Come on you two, loosen up a bit and try to look like you're enjoying yourselves! (Nearly) everyone out here wishes you well and wants to see you succeed!

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  • Message 81

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  • Message 82

    , in reply to message 60.

    Posted by wic2007 (U9517418) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    If anything I think they're trying too hard. I'm sure they will relax and settle in over time.

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  • Message 83

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    Posted by AllyMcB71 (U13803533) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    Hi, I realise that people change, presenters come and go and it's probably a little unfair to criticise new people but, my girls have asked to change channel already! Maybe it'll take some time to get used to them and of course I wish them all the best but sometimes new people can make you, well, not want to watch? Having been so used to Chris & Pui and their natural ability to connect with children it's a tall order to follow. I wait with baited breath...

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  • Message 84

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    Posted by Rachels30 (U13803548) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    I also am gutted Chris and Pui hav left.I grew up with Chris as the anorak 'I know!' and now my kids, aged 10 and 2 have also grown to love him as well. It's a shame they didn't have a proper farewell.

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  • Message 85

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    Posted by Nell (U13800271) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    Skyes-mum. My 'hear, hear was as a reply to 'MrYiggy'. Read his comments, they are my views too. You and I agree. The way messages are posted didn't make that clear. x

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  • Message 86

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    Posted by Nell (U13800271) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    Thank you lilandtedsmum! xx

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  • Message 87

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    Posted by lilandtedsmum (U13773661) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    You're welcome! ;0)

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  • Message 89

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    Posted by Paul G (U6480444) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    I remember when Andy first joined Cbeebies. There were countless complaints about his hair, voice and ability. I don't hear many complaints now though.

    Good luck to the newbies. I'm sure they'll be fine.

    Anyway, when ITNG is moved again it'll give people something else to complain about smiley - biggrin

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  • Message 91

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    Posted by serjanus (U10145580) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    They are rather inept if you ask me.

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  • Message 92

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    Posted by jensmum (U13804136) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    What no-one seems to have mentioned so far is that Cerrie and Alex have only been on screen for 4 days. In filming time, that is probably just one or perhaps at a stretch two days. Who is completely assured and confident in their first day at a new job!!!
    Sorry if I've shattered any illusions for those parents who thinks Cbeebies is live!!!!!
    They will only have seen themselves this week too I imagine- So basically give them at least to the middle of Feb by which time they would have seen themselves and done 5 or 6 actual days in the role.
    Give them a break!

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  • Message 94

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    Posted by ShoeBabyMum (U13804212) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    I know that presenters will always change, but would have liked Chris and Pui going to be made a goodbye as my son has been asking why they went and why they did not say goodbye.

    The new presenters will, I am sure eventually find their rythm. I think getting used to new faces will take us parents longer than it will our children.

    However, as parents I would also hope that we have the sensibilities to show our children positive attitudes and find it rather upsetting that parents are objecting to a new presenter because of a physical attribute.

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  • Message 95

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    Posted by MrsTumble (U13760160) on Thursday, 29th January 2009


    I had apologised earlier, but Beeb wouldn't allow it smiley - sadface

    I wanted to say that I am extremely sorry for my mistake. I got a bit too upset over some comments I have read about the poor new presenters, especially Cerrie, and presumed that you were replying to the post above you.

    Very sorry if I upset you, next time I will click the thing and see what you are replying to!

    Most of my message was in reply to the person above you, and not actually you.

    Sorry again, Kirsty XXXXXXXXXXXXX

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  • Message 96

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    Posted by MimisMum (U13804328) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    I couldn't even decide which of the awful messages to reply to! I have even joined this forum just to respond to this thread.

    The comments about Cerrie's arm are just plain offensive. I am suprised that the moderators have allowed some of these messages through (I dread to think of those that have been deleted). I just hope that Cerrie has not read these comments, they are enough to break anyone (and not the comments about her ability).

    My daughter was born with a cleft lip and therefore looks a 'bit different' and I am shocked and quite frankly scared that people still have what I class as Victorian views about people with 'differences'. My fears of my daughter's future being hard have just be founded and I am devasted by that.

    On a lighter note, I understand that presenters leaving can be a little upsetting, but seriously these are not members of your family!!! If your children are that traumatised then your children may need to be around real people a little bit more rather than tv presenters.

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  • Message 98

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    Posted by sebbby2460 (U13803026) on Thursday, 29th January 2009

    Besides what... What were you so surprised about.. Why do you feel you have to go on chatroom and say that comment...

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  • Message 99

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    Posted by bellybean07 (U13804539) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    The new presenters seem really bland tbh, I keep waiting for them to up a gear but so far nothing. Hoping its just 1st week nerves and they loosen up, but I can't remember Andy being this way, nor Sid!
    My kids are obviously upset at chris and poi's departure but I know they will get used to it.
    Good luck to them.

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  • Message 100

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    Posted by Nell (U13800271) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    Thanks. Apology accepted. x

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  • Message 101

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    Posted by Nell (U13800271) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    Please, please, PLEASE could everyone read posts carefully. Anthonyj quoted part of another message and then wrote his opinion underneath. The quote was not his opinion.

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  • Message 102

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    Posted by okfantastic (U13804549) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    Well said, Mimismum.

    Yes: it's lovely that children feel an affinity with presenters, but seriously I don't think it's healthy to get sooooo attached that people are *actually* grieving the loss of Chris and Pui. My daughter (3) hasn't mentioned it at all.

    I've never posted on these message boards before, and only logged on to praise the Beeb's decision to have a presenter who has some physical differences. I seriously was delighted, it made my day. I have a friend with a similar 'special leg'(!)... children (and parents, it would sadly appear) need to see that in fact, it doesn't matter, and anyone can do or be anything they choose.

    Anything that furthers this is all good in my book. And the fact that there have been so many disgusting things said on this and other parenting forums makes it only more apparent how necessary it is to push diversity, particularly in children's programming. If only for their parents ;-P

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  • Message 103

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    Posted by beckyboosmum (U13804616) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    I would like to welcome Cerrie and Alex but think they are trying a bit too hard. If they are parents they should maybe use the tone they use with their own children, which I hope doesn't sound as condescending as the are appearing on tv. Can someone please tell them that if they just deliver the content of the show normally without overacting, they will be much more warmly welcomed by my daughter and other viewers.

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  • Message 104

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    Posted by wic2007 (U9517418) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    Very young children don't feel grief. We lost our family pet last summer and within a week my little one had forgotten all about her.

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  • Message 106

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    Posted by TinaTrelawneyWood (U1701089) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    We here only really watch In the Night Garden and Something Special because my little fella Jack (21 months) loves them. The other day whilst watching the Bedtime Hour my older boy (Ryan - 5) saw the two new presenters and just piped up "Where's Chris?".

    We may have missed the introduction of Cerrie and Alex (who I wish all the best too!), but it might have been nice for an announcement saying that Chris and Pui are no longer presenting?

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  • Message 107

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    Posted by rubyluvscbeebies (U13805068) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    Hi every1. I only joined to see what happened to chris and pui. My little girl hasnt even noticed that they have left its only me that is missing them lol how sad is that? but I remember watchin Chris when I was a kid when he 1st joined.

    I think the new presenters will be great but its their first week and they must be nervous and even more so if they read some of the comments made on this forum!

    Its kids tv! people need to lighten up abit lol Many children can probably relate to Cerrie. She is a great role model so I cant understand some of the comments! and its great for children to know there is different people out and thats why I love Justins shows!

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  • Message 108

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    Posted by ciera8 (U13805201) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    i think its a terrible shame that people can find a missing limb offensive. i'm sure cerrie was hired because she is young, pretty, with a friendly face and plenty of enthusiasm and the children will grow to like her as they would any other new presenter. my 3 yr old was curious as to why she only had one hand, but after i explained she hasn't even noticed it since. i hope you can all look beyond appearence, i'm sure we wouldn't have this discussion if she had a big nose or goofy teeth!!

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  • Message 110

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    Posted by Rosesmummy (U13805494) on Friday, 30th January 2009

    I'm really not a fan of the new presenters. The CBeebies charm has gone. I really think they would be more suited to programming for older children than the Cbeebies target audience, for example cbbc. Its a real disappointment. They're not right for the channel.

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