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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Jane (U1484860) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Be it a Kindle, a Sony, an app on your PC/laptop/i-pod or whatever; if you are, or are interested in, reading using a format other than books then this is the place to

    - ask for information

    - share information

    - discuss where/how to download your favourite books free of charge. Legal sites only please. As I understand it anything out of copywrite can be made available to down load free of charge.

    I'll start things off by saying that I'm a Kindle owner and love it.


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    Posted by Dabchick (U14374409) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Thanks to Jane, who started this in response to my 'Kindle!' post on The Bull. There's quite a bit of interesting stuff on that and it became obvious that we could usefully meet here rather than either have a long long thread there, or lose it down the page.

    I have just ordered a Kindle - it's coming on Monday, hurrah - and have been much encouraged by what others have already said, so look forward to lots more here.

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    Posted by Eilis (U14671184) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Just bookmarking for later.

    Cheers all!

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    Posted by La Bez (U14670366) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    I'm a kindle lover here although mine is one of the first ones and could use replacing - not least because part of the screen is broken. The only thing is I still prefer real books for text book type books because I like to be able to scribble in the margins. Also - maybe because it's a first edition and maybe this has been improved - with those text books it's not so easy to flick back to a specific page or two one to find a specific passage.

    I love it though, being able to take such a thin "book" with me and being able to download wherever and whenever I want is fantastic, probably the best present OH ever bought me. Great thread idea.

    Because I do need to replace it and there are now other options would people - if they had the choice - buy a new kindle or the iPad. A friend just got the latter and was able to download her kindle account and all her books on to it and I am very tempted for all the other functions of the iPad.

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    Posted by Lydia Keith (U1474362) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    I'll put the link to the mobileread forum here, it's a great website for technical advice on e-readers, and for free, legal, downloads.

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    Posted by Bleak_Midwinter_Squirrel_Nutcase (U2248205) on Friday, 19th November 2010


    Think you meant 'copyright', Jane, but I trip up such ways all the time myself, blush.

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    Posted by Lydia Keith (U1474362) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Jo Bo, I hope you don't mind but I've linked to your question in The Bull and copied it to here.

    <quote>I keep reading the Kindle/e-reader threads and am getting very tempted, both for myself, predominantly for travelling, and possibly for my elderly mother. I am toying with the idea of getting one for her for Christmas, as she likes to read, but as her eyesight is not what it was, she often has to have large-print books. Sadly this limits her choice, so I wondered if an e-reader/Kindle would be the answer.

    My dilemma with her is that although she does have an ancient PC, I'm not sure it would support any sort of link to a modern e-reader. To add to this, she only has dial-up internet and the mobile signal where she is is awful. One option I suppose would be to keep it registered in my name and do all the downloading for her, or maybe give the wider family access to her registration.

    Any thoughts or ideas?


    Jo x</quote

    I'm contemplating the same for my mum. The zoom feature on the Sony (and the Kindle, I think) means it's fantastic for visually impaired people. My Sony has a SD card slot (but not all of them do) so I can copy books to that in order to send them to her. HOWEVER I think you need advice from a Kindle person. It may well be easier for you to do the registering and maybe it could be set to download if she goes out to an area with a signal?

    Books from Amazon tend to be cheaper, which is something to bear in mind.

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    Posted by Clarinda (U13194630) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    The iPad has a very reflective screen which would be OK for reading indoors but not good in any outdoors or bright light situation. It is also heavy, and has a short battery life, compared to the Kindle.

    I've got an iPod Touch with a non-reflective screen protector and I could read books on this using either iBooks or Stanza. It works as well as the iPad would but with the obvious disadvantage of a much smaller screenr but the big advantage of weighing practically nothing.

    An app called Stanza converts all the books I have on my (fairly recently purchased) Sony eReader so I can read them on the Touch as well. I like the way that I can change background, fonts, etc on the Touch and find the Sony very slow and inflexible in comparison.

    If I was buying a reader again I'd probably buy a Kindle, but the new version came out just after I'd got the Sony

    Good to see you back, Jane

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    Posted by Jo Bo (U1485540) on Friday, 19th November 2010


    Thanks for copying my query over to this thread. I don't have to get a Kindle for Mum, if a Sony would be better, but I would have to be sure that I could download a really good selection in advance, and find a way for her/the family to download new stuff she wanted.

    To repeat part of my latest post on the other thread, she is 91 but due to slight cataracts/general old age, she finds reading small print rather tiring. I'm sure she would cope with the technical aspects of using the reader (she has Sky, an old PC, mobile phone, etc), but not necessarily downloading.

    I will look out for anyone else's thoughts with interest.

    I suppose I could buy her one for Christmas, but if it doesn't work out, transfer it to me and buy her something else instead!!

    Jo x

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    Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Bookmarking. Thanks, Jane for opening this up as it does make it much easier to ask for information and exchange hints.

    For those who don't yet have a Kindle and are thinking of it - I found the Kindle for PC app (free download) very useful as it gave me some idea of what the Kindle is like. I also downloaded to it various Scarlet Pimpernel books from the gutenberg site ( ) in their .mobi format which is compatible with Kindle.

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    Posted by Lydia Keith (U1474362) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    I read your comment on the other thread, Jo Bo, and I think that the downloading will be the issue that you need to sort out, as you say. If she's moving, do you think that the signal will be better at her new place?

    You also mentioned library loans. As far as I'm aware, libraries who participate in this scheme lend out to Sony readers, not Kindles, for reasons of copyright etc. (DRM and all that).

    If it's any use to you, you can get the PRS-505 Sony on Ebay quite easily for about £70-£100.

    I've been trying to decide which way to go with my mum and I'm coming down on the side of the Kindle really, as she has good signal strength and no PC. My swithering is partly to do with lending her my Sony books, so after my partner gets a Kindle, I'll have a better idea.

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    Posted by La Bez (U14670366) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Thanks Clarinda - it's good to be back. I'm currently using my iPhone for all Internet stuff, I have an iTouch as well but need free wifi places to use it at the moment. I can see the reflective screen being a problem outdoors.

    Re the kindle and downloading the beauty is that it has it's own capability to do do and doesn't need a computer. It accesses your Amazon acct direct. I've downloaded books in all manner of places with no computer. The zoom is definitely great for those with poor vision.

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    Posted by Dabchick (U14374409) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    To repeat part of my latest post on the other thread, she is 91 but due to slight cataracts/general old age, she finds reading small print rather tiring. 

    Another point in favour of the Kindle with people who need large print books, is that often these are too big and heavy for older hands to manage well. I went to a conference once about lareg print books and it's a matter they've tried hard to address with paper weights etc (not paperweights!!!) but seems insurmountable. A thin, light Kindle would make it so much easier.

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    Posted by Jo Bo (U1485540) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Further to this comment, La Bez, could other members of the family buy stuff and put it into Mum's account, for it to download when she was within signal range? I assume to do this she would need the 3G version of course? The library option would be nice but not essential, as she could continue to use 'proper' books from there.

    Oh, if she did move, she would be in a better signal area and may even have Wi-fi access, but that is unlikely to be until next year at the earliest.

    Thanks all

    Jo x

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    Posted by Zzumbug (U14655158) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    I'm a fairly recent convert to the Kindle. The battery life is supposed to be very good, but does anyone have any practical experience? I know it depends on how much you use it but could one, say, take it on a two week holiday, read for 2/3 hours every day, and not need to recharge it?

    I have been in the habit of recharging it periodically, i.e. before it runs to zero.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by savannahlady (U2362903) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Someone suggested I might just pop in here and give an answer on the Kindle of which I have a lot of experience.

    I bought my Kindle from the US Amazon because they weren't then being sold here, but I am buying a UK one for OH for Christmas. The most important things (IMHO) are these:

    If you buy the 3G Kindle (£149 in the UK on Amazon and at JL) you will NOT need a computer to download books. 3G is 'mobile technology' - Amazon call it WhisperNet. It works anywhere - you do NOT need to be near a computer OR have Wifi. That is the beauty of the Kindle which is unmatched by other e-readers.

    If you have several Kindles (as for example we will when OH gets his), you can share the same account so you can each access the same books.

    You can choose to 'archive' books when you have read them - it is a mere two clicks on your Kindle to this. When you want a book back or someone else on the account does, you simply click on your Archives section and then choose the book you want back and it will appear back in your Kindle withing a matter of seconds.

    You can download your books from your Kindle to your computer if you wish to do so (they can then be uploaded by someone else using another e-reader or emailed to others).

    There are sites other than Amazon where you can acquire books but they have to be formatted to work on the Kindle (I have not done this so far so don't know how good/bad it is)

    You can also have documents emailed to your Kindle (you are given an email address for this purpose with the Kindle). There is a small charge for this but it is helpful for people who might wish to work on something whilst away without their laptop or access to a Smart Phone

    Amazon books for e-readers are generally cheaper than those for other e-readers.

    In the UK there are now two types of Kindle - one which is Wifi only (£109) and one which is wifi and 3G (£149). DON'T BUY the cheaper version if you are ever likely to want to download books whilst travellling or out of reach of a wifi area. Personally I wouldn't consider wifi only, but that's because we do a lot of travelling and I want all the flexibility of these wonderful devices.

    The I-Pad contains an e-reader as well. Lovely though the I-Pads are (and I almost bought one in the US recently) - they are a good deal heavier than the Kindle and as an avid reader who can sit reading for hours on an aeroplane, I don't want to have to hold something that heavy for hours. The Kindle (6" version) is perfect for me.

    Hope that helps people.

    I am officially no longer here but I just came back to offer some advice at the suggestion of A N Other. Otherwise I have decided to give ML a rest for now - nothing really to do with anyone/anything - just feel it's time to go and do other things. I wish everyone here all the very best - it's been lovely 'talking' with you over the years. If I can help anyone with the stuff that most of you know that I do, then please do contact me off board via one of the people who have my email - Small Town Girl, Schezz, E.Yore, Laura, Lili B, Damson, $quiggs, Sunny Clouds and Windfarm Mermaid. Do post this bit elsewhere if you feel it would be helpful. Good luck and Steady The Buffs!

    much love


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    Posted by Dabchick (U14374409) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    That is amazingly useful and even answered some questions I hadn't even thought to ask!

    Thanks very much Savvie. I am so glad I asked the original question in TB which has produced this terrific response and thread in TVH.

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    Posted by Zzumbug (U14655158) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    If you buy the 3G Kindle (£149 in the UK on Amazon and at JL) you will NOT need a computer to download books. 3G is 'mobile technology' - Amazon call it WhisperNet. It works anywhere - you do NOT need to be near a computer OR have Wifi. 

    I'd just like to pick up on the 3G point. I agree entirely with you about going for the Wifi and 3G Kindle BUT, there are whole swathes of the UK where it is impossible to get a 3G connection. I think that should be borne in mind before buying.

    What I don't know, because I am not technically minded, is whether you can download onto a Kindle if you don't have 3G (or have a Kindle without a 3G connection) and you also don't have access to wifi, either at home or elsewhere.

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by Brentford_Nylon (U2565713) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    You can transfer stuff via USB.

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Zzumbug (U14655158) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    The only thing is I still prefer real books for text book type books because I like to be able to scribble in the margins. Also - maybe because it's a first edition and maybe this has been improved 

    The latest Kindle guide states:

    Do you like to take notes and make comments while reading? You can add notes to any of the content on Kindle. Amazon automatically stores all of your book annotations in the "My Clippings" file and backs them up at Amazon so they will not be lost. 

    So that looks pretty good then?

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    Posted by Zzumbug (U14655158) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    You can transfer stuff via USB. 

    Thank you. I should read the Guide more closely.

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Savvie, thank you very much for your informative post. I am just very, very sorry to see you go. I hope that one day, when all this settles down, we might be able to see you back on here.

    Good luck & good health to you and your family!


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    Posted by Bizzie Lizzie (U2255808) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Tagging on at the end to bookmark.

    I have a Sony ereader, given to me for a birthday present last year. I am an avid reader at the best of times, and on holiday can read at least one book a day. My holiday suitcase is now lighter and has a lot more space.

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    Posted by Jane (U1484860) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    Hi all back again

    Practical stuff

    I've had my kindle (wifi not 3G) since 2 Oct and recharged it once, it'll need another one next week I expect.
    I use it on the journey to/from work plus extra (depending on what I'm reading etc)

    I like using it in bed/when I'm tired as increasing the font size makes it easier to read. I also like the fact that you can choose the font in use - regular, condensed or sans serif. I use the later as I find it easy on the eye.

    you can also choose the line spacing - S, M , L and the words per line - fewest, fewer, default and there is a test to speech function .
    I not used or played with any of these

    I use my netbook to browse and choose books and then have them delivered wirelessly (amazon) or via the USB from other sites.

    Organising the books. Savvie mentioned the archive function.
    you can show your items Most recent first, Title, Author, Collections.
    I have found the Author listing a little odd at times - the same author is listed by forename for some books and surname for others!

    Collections - you can create a collection and store books in it. eg Jane Austen, Barchester Chronicles I like this as it holds books I would have adjacent on the bookcase together.

    An important point to make about the kindle is that the screen is not backlight (like a PC, i-pad etc) which means you have to have light to read it but makes it easier on the eyes over time.

    Can't think of any other points atm and am off to make dinner


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    Posted by mrs-nostalgie (U3136537) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    As is simple on a Kindle I believe.
    Savvie, I'll miss you.
    Dabchick, I still can't work out your authorial monniker, 'H for Harry, L for..?

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by Dabchick (U14374409) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    I have already gained so much from these two threads, and have already downloaded some books, ready for when the K arrives on Monday (how long will the first charge-up take, btw?), mostly free but one I've paid for - I was going to buy it anyway.

    (Unfortunately, owing to excited finger syndrome, the invoice for this seems to be going to a small boy I also ordered a boxed set of Narnia books for....have emailed his mum to confess but hope it won't interfere with delivery.....doh.....)

    mrs-nostalgie, you have the information you need. H for Harry, L for Lilian.... OK?

    (Peppertree worked it out and is disappointed that I'm not Lesley Pearse. S/he's not the only one!)

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    Posted by Zzumbug (U14655158) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    (Peppertree worked it out and is disappointed that I'm not Lesley Pearse. S/he's not the only one!) 

    Not disappointed at all! As said elsewhere, our paths crossed, that's all.

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    Posted by Dabchick (U14374409) on Friday, 19th November 2010

    It's OK, Peppertree. I was just kidding.

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    Posted by Zzumbug (U14655158) on Saturday, 20th November 2010

    I received my December edition of Which? this morning and anyone thinking of purchasing an e-reader may wish to take a look before buying. The top three (by percentage ratings) are:

    76% Sony Reader Touch
    74% Sony reader Pocket
    73% Kindle 3G

    Not much to chose on percentage ratings then. But of course that is not the whole story. Price, etc. and personal choice also influence buying decisions. Also, I sometimes think that the Which? researchers can be a bit 'prissy' in what they deem good or bad, so keep an open mind.

    Which? is a subscription only magazine but it may be possible to look at one at a public library. I just don't know.

    I hope this information may be helpful to some people.

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by La Bez (U14670366) on Saturday, 20th November 2010

    Thanks peppertree that does look useful I'll look at it further

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by Aunt Fanny (U2224124) on Sunday, 21st November 2010

    My local library service (Essex) does a pretty good selection of books to download ( I have a Sony touch) . You can lend them for up to 21 days and can have three at a time. Sony also give you a large selection of freebies to download when you first register - I think they are primarily the copyright free books from project Gutenburg but are grouped in collections ( Austen, Shakespeare, poetry etc). I've had mine since the summer (bought it from Amazon US and had it delivered to a friend who was out there at the time) and I love it - it was great on holiday, no need for a pile of books and was very readable even in Red Sea sunshine.

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    Posted by Dabchick (U14374409) on Sunday, 21st November 2010

    Which? is a subscription only magazine but it may be possible to look at one at a public library. I just don't know.


    Maybe they should get it on Kindle!

    Mine is coming tomorrow. It actually arrived yesterday but I was out so it is now languishing in the sorting office (only a mile away, one of the many benefits of living just outside a small town) so I can collect it any time after 7am.

    Somewhat disappointed to learn that I can't use it for library books, but maybe that will change. Anyway, I shall continue going to the library and getting books out, as not all the ones I want are available on Kindle anyway.

    There have already been several occasions in the past two days when I've thought 'Now, if only I had my Kindle with me..........'

    (And another thing: I ordered a boxed set of Narnia books from Amazon for a child and they've emailed to say they can't get it! Tried everywhere, apparently. Would that happen with Kindle, I wonder.)

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    Posted by Cheshire Cat (U14533219) on Sunday, 21st November 2010

    What is the range of academic books like for e-readers, as I spend more time reading those than novels? Although, to be fair, all play etc. I intersperse my academic stuff with Rebus, Pratchett, - currently got a PD James on the go.
    OH has suggested an i-Pad as a possible Christmas present for me, or an i-Phone - now, after reading this thread I might have to re-write my letter to Santa.

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    Posted by Dabchick (U14374409) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    You can check all the books available by going to Amazon and looking in the Kindle store - you can see reviews as well.

    Speaking as a nexpert (having had mine for at least half an hour now) I am extremely impressed and love it already. It fired up the minute I plugged it in so I don't have to wait for it to charge up before having a play. I've plugged it into a wall socket, not my computer, and it's beavering away by itself, but as soon as it was plugged in the instructions on use and a view of all the useful features appeared, very easy to use, and there are several i didn't know about - eg you can have your own PDF documents sent to it for a small fee (possibly avoidable) and read and work on them on the kindle, which could be very useful - and you can search and make notes, and highlight text, grab and save passages for transfer to your computer later if you want to, and make clippings. So it's not just a reader, but a very useful and easy to work tool. (I am sure someone's said all this but I am just discovering it!) And all the books I've ordered over the weekend are there. (Btw, there are a lot of different collections of Shakespeares, mostly costing less than £1 or maybe £2 - anyone got any recommendations for which is the best for someone who just wants to read, without being over studious about it?)

    The only problem I've had so far is getting it into its cover, which I seem to have managed to do a bit skewiff, but that's the sort of hamfisted person I am!

    More later - must go and have another play!

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    Posted by Dabchick (U14374409) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    PS to above - you can also browse amazon and buy new books straight from the kindle, so if you're out or even abroad, and see or think of a book you'd like to have, you can order it and lo! there it is, a minute later!

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    Posted by Zzumbug (U14655158) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    I'm pleased you like it.

    I hope we can hear more from other posters as regards the pros and cons of e-readers, generally as well as specifically. They aren't for everybody and for those who do like them, I think reports of the imminent demise of paper books are exaggerated.

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    Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    >> They aren't for everybody and for those who do like them, I think reports of the imminent demise of paper books are exaggerated. <<

    I don't know how I'll use mine when I get it, but I cannot see myself choosing the e-reader over books when I have the choice, simply for practical reasons. A book in paper can be read and reread any number of times without worrying about the end-life of the battery. For me the e-reader will be a perfect solution to the problem of space (32 m² and well over a thousand books and climbing) and portability when I travel or find myself with time to spare but not necessarily the space to carry a paper book.

    I may change my mind and go all evangelical over my e-reader when I do get it, though. My first year with the Remoska, I did all my cooking with it; now it is more used when I actually need to cook with it than trying to adapt all my recipes to it.

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    Posted by La Bez (U14670366) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    I was talking about this subject with my OH and Basia when they visited me yesterday. OH mentioned that he'd read an article saying that e-readers had changed book buying among higher income males and realized in his own case that was true. The are apparently buying more books than the have ever really done because they are impulse purchases made from an electronic gadget. Since getting his iPad a couple of months ago he now has 20 books on his "shelf" (hasn't read most of them mind). No way would he have bought anywhere near that many - if any at all - real books in that time frame. Because he was browsing online though he would see something that looks interesting and buy it on impulse. He would never spend enough time in a real bookstore, indeed I don't know when he last set foot in one as he buys almost everything online these days
    Oh he agrees that the iPad is heavier but balaced that against it's other applications his only real complaint is no camera so he can't use it to skype with his parents or our daughter but he reckons a future version will probably remedy that

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    Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    Most of my book buying these days (pre Kindle) has been either impulse buying on Amazon after reading a discussion here or at second hand book sales, with the occasional foray into WH Smiths in Paris. Whenever I visit the UK, I am like a small child in a sweet shop as I go from Waterstone's to Barnes & Noble to Heffer's to Blackwell's. If you factor Lakeland into the equation, any wonder I come back to France with several suitcases weighing a tonne and an empty bank a/c?

    I can see that I shall have to limit myself to the free e-books if I don't want my bank manager taking away my credit card, once I get the Kindle.

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    Posted by Dabchick (U14374409) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    Not much of a limit there, then, E Yore. Pretty well all the classics are either free or for a very low price (just downloaded the complete Shakespeare with 16 acophrycal (aprocryphal? aprhocprycal..... not sure I've ever actually written that word before) plays as well for a princely £1.44. Bought in paper form, that probably outweighs my kindle already!

    No, it's not going to replace paper for me either, if only because a while ago I decided to stop buying so many books just to read once and borrow them from the library instead, thus saving paper, supporting the libraries (and denying fellow authors some of their income, it has to be said, which is not what I really want to do). And many of those books, I shall carry on getting from the , though still buying those I really really want to read. And which aren't in libraries now - the once-popular authors who have now fallen out of fashion - I shall certainly buy, if and when they become available on Kindle. (Some already are.) And then there are gardening books etc.

    Still, I have to say it is very nice to hold and easy to read from, better than the weighty hardback I am currently climbing into bed with (could almost use it as a step).

    And travel guides etc - that's another thing! And what about birdwatching guides, and books for indetifying flowers, fungi etc that you could carry around with you? Big advantages there, I think.

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    Posted by mrs-nostalgie (U3136537) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    E.Yore, I am beginning to think twice as a visit to the kindle store, encouraged by amazon on the dispatch of my kindle, which was bought on, with a uk bank account, posted within uk, tells me I can't use the British kindle store.
    The site I was redirected to is horribly AmericaniZed, and I can't find several authors, (type in 'search' & get -'do you mean someone else of whom you've never heard?'), all in dollars with prices way over UK prices...

    Henning Mankell is on offer at £4.30 a book with Am uk, - on the other site they are $11+ = over 8 € . There are only 3 Susan Hills, Howard's End in on the Landing for more than I paid for the hardback and 2 expensive Simon Serralliers and that's it.
    Shakespeare is $5 - I know, still amazing, but more than the UK price, Jane Austen ditto..

    A friend here was praising his, I'm off to ask him what site he buys from.

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    Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    Mrs-N, that is interesting. Is one OBLIGATED to register on the US site because that is where one bought the Kindle or can one choose the site? I have accounts on both, and buy more from the UK site because of no customs duties.

    Will have a rootle around before making any decisions.

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    Posted by Zzumbug (U14655158) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    I think you could reject the device as it is clearly not what you want. Do it quickly though.

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    Posted by Zzumbug (U14655158) on Tuesday, 23rd November 2010

    I was casually browsing the available e-books on the Kindle Store site last night. I don't know what I did but I suddenly realised that I had purchased a book I didn't want. I am now 8 pounds the poorer but considerably wiser! Watch out!

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    Posted by Jane (U1484860) on Tuesday, 23rd November 2010

    Ouch! Peppertree.

    That's one of the reasons I don't have one-click buying turned on.

    That and the (vain) hope that having to log in to buy might curb my expenditure!


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    Posted by Trillian (U14033122) on Tuesday, 23rd November 2010

    On the point of the US Amazon site, I think when your Kindle arrives it will default to the UK site. Mine was certainly "pointed" to the UK site.

    If not, you can register with the UK site, you are under no obligation to buy from Amazon US.

    When you get your Kindle, the little set up guide should tell you what to do. I don't think it's difficult (at least, I don't remember having any problems)

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    Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Tuesday, 23rd November 2010

    Question about 1-click: from what I've read about the Kindle, one HAS to enable one-click if one wants to buy from the Kindle (rather than from one's PC/Mac). Is this the case? I don't use one-click and refuse to enable it on my own pc so would be slightly miffed if I had to on the Kindle.

    Trillian, in mrs-n's case, she lives in France (or used to) - so why would a Kindle bought in the UK default to the US, if not because of the country of use?

    In my case, living in France and ordering from, would there be any advantage to registering in one or the other (, apart from the price of books? The only books I can think I'd want to buy to have on tap whenever/wherever I want (as opposed to the free classics) are the Discworld books or Lord of the Rings.

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    Posted by Trillian (U14033122) on Tuesday, 23rd November 2010

    Sorry, didn't read carefully enough - didn't know you were based in France.

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    Posted by Hebe (U1477254) on Tuesday, 23rd November 2010

    When I first got my kindle I had to buy books from However it knew I was in the UK and there were some books available for kindles in the US that I was not allowed to buy because I was in the UK. This I presume is all tied up with publishing rights etc - different publisher in the US to the UK and the UK rights not yet being sorted out for kindle.

    Then they opened the UK kindle store and encouraged us to move over. Anything listed on the UK kindle store I can buy. If I go onto the US site now it tells me about the UK store, and also asks me if I've changed locations and need to re-register where I am.

    It may be that if you are in France or elsewhere that you have to buy from as this is the site set up to cope with differentiating between countries as to what you are allowed to buy.

    It's similar for audible for audiobooks - I can't buy from the US site and there are different books available there as to on the UK site.

    I can feel as if I've got my nose pressed up to the window looking at the goodies inside.......

    NB I have to use one click for my kindle purchases, but not for anything else.

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    Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Tuesday, 23rd November 2010

    Thanks, Hebe, that is very clear. Presumably if I buy on the Kindle store but via my pc (for downloading to my Kindle for PC app and then synched across to the real Kindle) then I can avoid One-Click?

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