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    Posted by Mitch (U8863023) on Friday, 5th November 2010

    Welcome to 2nd running club thread.

    The purpose is to help motivate those of us who do (or want) to put on their running shoes, double knot their laces, plug in their MP3's and try to go faster than a walk.

    All are welcome if you’re an old hand or completely new to running, fast or slow come and join us you’ll get loads of helpful advice and support, we all started learning to run at some point. We love to read race reports and see piccies.

    Why did I start? My O/H has ran for years ½ marathons and the like and I used to think ‘I want to do that’ and I thought well why don’t I so I got a great book called ‘Running Made Easy’ started walk/run and away I went. My longest at the moment is 10k but I’m going to go for a ½ marathon next year. What I love about running is that I don’t have to interact with anyone and running is all about you. It’s down to you and is definitely mind over matter. I’ll never beat any speed or distance records, but as long as I’m still enjoying it that’s all that matters.

    Anyway come in sit down and join in.

    Attached is the link to the last thread

    Mitch x

    www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Friday, 5th November 2010

    Ooh goodie, a new running thread. I've just been updating my running blog with a new feature to keep track of my plan to run a marathon in every county in the Netherlands. So this seems like a good place to shamelessly promote it. marathonwomanreturns...

    I'm never going to win any prizes for speed but I do enjoy my runs, with or without accompanying lodgerdogs. I take photos along the way, listen to podcasts, eat brambles/raspberries, pat dogs, peer through lighted windows and just generally enjoy my surroundings whilst my legs and lungs get on with the healthy stuff.

    I really enjoy this thread as it's always full of enthusiasm, encouragement, useful tips and running tales.

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Friday, 5th November 2010

    Thanks for opening mitch.
    Got up at 6 this am to run before a day at work from hell. Thanks CinC, I blame you - you have made me turn mad. I would /never/ have got up just to go out in the windy freezing fog and pound the trails.

    Had a great run, and didn't want to stop (especially to then cycle to work in order to deal with lots of boring stuff for 9 hours solid - normally my work is quite interesting, but today was never going to be)
    I need to buy new shoes, so I need to get half a day to go to the two good running shops in town and get re-analyzed and ting.

    Oh, and my foot specialist cannot get over how well my arthritic toe pain is doing since I started running more seriously.

    Happy running y'all
    Al...

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    Posted by maisiepusscat (U11889543) on Friday, 5th November 2010

    Just signing in.

    Lovely run this morning through autumn leaves.

    In haste....

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    Posted by libby (U10756127) on Saturday, 6th November 2010

    Just bookmarking the shiny new thread. I won't be able to run for a few weeks as I'm recovering from surgery (routine and not running related) so, while I'm stuck at home, I'll be running vicariously via this thread.

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    Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Saturday, 6th November 2010

    Thanks so much Mitch. Woohoo! (Every runner needs a woohoo, and they normally come attached with an excl mk,so...)

    Well,it's the NY Marathon tomorrow, and I am going to go out to support the runners,first time ever. I'm meeting my friend,also a runner, on the corner at 7.30 am to walk over to where the course passes closest to where we live as her husband,a good friend of mine also, is running,and we want to see all the wheelchair runners and the elites,as she called them. How exciting. Twenty years in this city,and never once have I done this, for shame.

    One of my fave guitar players ever is running too,so I have to er...run from one stop to the next. Hahaha. Nitwit.I asked which mile he wants us at and he said mile 10 or 12 and that's in trendy Williamsburg so that works out well.

    Anyone got an iphone?

    Love to all.

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    Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Sunday, 7th November 2010

    Oh I just watched the first wave of wheelchair competitors at mile 7 go past and got all weepy. It's so inspiring.

    Off to mile 12 to meet friends. This is so moving.

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    Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Sunday, 7th November 2010

    Oh crikey, I just saw the first wave if women, pretty spectacular. I keep crying. I'm waiting for the big wave of men now, and I'm going to cry again. Its ok, I'm loving it.

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Sunday, 7th November 2010

    WAVES of men? That reminds me of a song, now, what was it...

    hmm, I might be some time

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Sunday, 7th November 2010

    CinC - is it today you are running the Maple Leaf Cross or some such? Hope it went really well.

    Al...

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Monday, 8th November 2010

    I should indeed have been Maple Leaf Crossing yesterday al, but there was a change of plan involving a jumble sale and a Great Dane (unrelated) and I didn't go after all. Did have a good run with said dog though, keeping him on the lead most of the time as our normal running haunt is full of families with young children on Sunday afternoon and I could see the worry on their faces as this great hulking (harmless, but hey, you can't see that from a distance) animal appeared on their horizon.

    Meanwhile in New York...? Are you planning on joining in yourself next year then Bash?

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Tuesday, 9th November 2010

    Hoi, we've fallen off the front page. We're not forgetting to run now that it's getting colder now are we? (I'm glaring here, be afraid, be very afraid...) My runs are fairly uneventful really but they're still happening as I head for the end of my 'run for an average of 1hour per day' year with 65 minutes in hand so far. I'm thinking of halfing this for next year as it has been a bit of a stress sometimes to fit in quite so much. My next big deadline is a repeat of the Urk/Zwolle marathon on the 27th. Also looking forward to my jaunt along the beach at Egmond with Impish next Tuesday.

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    Posted by maisiepusscat (U11889543) on Tuesday, 9th November 2010

    Blimey - an hour a day - that's pretty darn impressive. Respek.

    Absolutely bucketing it down here in County Durham - so devoting myself to marking essays about the early modern north east of England.

    Hope to run tomorrow morning before departmental meeting.

    But, an hour a day - I'm humbled....

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Tuesday, 9th November 2010

    It was a target I set myself when I counted up the hours I'd run in Januari and it was Almost an hour a day. I suspect now it's a bit too much really but I'm going to try to complete the year and then it'll be a luxury in the new year when I 'only' have to do half as much. It's been as much an exercise in time wrangling as anything else. I've proved to myself that time cAn be made for something if I set myself a target. I might use the 'gained' hours for something else next year.

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Tuesday, 9th November 2010

    The weather here for the last few days has been biblical. Had great run in the /persisting/ (other adjectives are available) rain on Sunday. Yesterday it was just too dark to go running by the time I got back home - without potential ankle breaking.
    I don't run on roads - foot doctor's orders.

    Then had little plod this evening.

    I don't mind the rain for running, but combining it with the rest of RL, the getting back home in the dark, then planning to go out for a run in the rain...

    However, tomorrow I do not have a meeting until 10am, and some old friends are coming for dinner, so up early and out for trot with the dawg before work come hell or high water.
    Given my hilly environs, the high water will have to be /very/ high to be an excuse....

    Happy running y'all.

    Al...

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Thursday, 11th November 2010

    harumph, feeling clogged up and tired. I blame everyone else for giving me the lurgy.

    Al...

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Thursday, 11th November 2010

    btw, I see that the original thread has been officially CLOSED. I thought this was something that only happened when threads go bad. Is it a new phenomenon that automatically culls threads when they hit 2000?

    Al...

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    Posted by maisiepusscat (U11889543) on Thursday, 11th November 2010

    Actually, I'm laid up in bed with the lurgy - been asleep most of the day. Anyone else?

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    Posted by catwomyn (U1485618) on Thursday, 11th November 2010

    hello, never been here before...

    I'm not a proper runner as I have a dodgy ankle which means I can't run far. But since I've been living with my friend (who is a proper runner, did the Embra Marathon this year) I've been accompanying her on short runs - approx 3.5km round our village, mostly flat but a few small hilly bits. My ankle is holding out well, hardly hurts at all, so I'm rather chuffed.

    First couple of times I had to intersperse walking and running, but now I can run all the way. I've even run all the way on my own, once I realised I have a tendency to run too fast if I'm on my own, and I make the effort to keep a slower pace.

    Anyways, on Sunday I did the run by myself, and now I have a Very Hurty Knee. on the kneecap and inner bit just to the side of the kneecap. No bruises. it's on the same leg as the bad ankle, so I wondered if maybe I was overcompensating for my bad ankle? Any ideas?

    Cat x

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Friday, 12th November 2010

    Cat sounds to me like you are a proper runner. Sorry to hear about your knee.
    Do you warm up and cool down enough? Do you stretch enough? Quite oftn in the initial euphoria of increased fitness, and strength gain, it is too easy to forget that tendons and ligaments take quite a bit longer to increase their potential too. Knees are horrid things anyway, badly designed and not good for being upright.

    What shoes do you use? If you want to continue running - which I hope you do - then get some shoes from a proper running shop. "Trainers" are no good. And we all run differently, so a proper shop shoud analyze your gait and help you decide on the right ones.
    I am in fact off in a moment to go and mull over buying some new shoes.

    Still seems unfair that you should be in pain so soon!
    however, as you say, it could be linked to the bad ankle, so even more important to get the right shoes. Given that you are now in pain, I would recommend seeing a physio if it isn't back to normal by say Sunday. Well, that's my feeling, but I am not an expert by any means.

    Al...

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Friday, 12th November 2010

    what is the nature of your 'dodgy ankle' cat? Sounds like you're building up your running well despite it. The knee trouble could indeed be a compensation type of injury but I would recommend a good sports physio has a look at it if at all possible. Don't go to a 'normal' doctor or they'll just tell you to stop running. Shoes could indeed help, or adopting a different running style. The trend these days is to more fore/midfoot landing rather than the heel landing sold to us by the makers of the big squishy shoes of the last few decades. Minimalist shoes are becoming more common. But if you're starting with a dodgy bit perhaps some sort of in-shoe correction might be necessary for you to be able to run pain-free.

    I had major resistance to getting out of bed this morning for my planned early run but after smacking the alarm off 3 times I did actually make it. And as always was glad I did, even if the skies did remain dark grey with no sign of a pink-streaked sunrise and the wind made me feel like I was running on a treadmill sometimes (not going forward...)

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    Posted by Imperfectly37 (U4335981) on Saturday, 13th November 2010

    Just checking in to say I survived my cross country challenge this morning. However, I hurt in places I can't believe and have just put a hot water bottle in my bed and am turning in (yes, I know it's very early, but I'm beat). The race photographer says photos will be posted tomorrow, so I'll do links and a race report either tomorrow or Monday.
    So, to bed - need to be in good enough shape to run with Campbell on Tuesday.

    Good running all. Impish x

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Saturday, 13th November 2010

    hahaha - you don't have to be in particularly good shape to run with me... Hope you feel better in the morning anyway and look forward to photos and race report.

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Sunday, 14th November 2010

    sounds great, well done impish. Look forward to the race report.

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Sunday, 14th November 2010

    According to the rain radar site the rain is going to stop soon - I might just get my looooong run in this afternoon after all, having failed to get out of bed yesterday morning I 'have' to do almost 3 hours today. Ach, 2 weeks before a marathon a long run is a good idea really and I'm actually quite keen, lots of good new stuff on mYpod and a new sportsbra to try out - but I so dislike stArting in rain. Feel free to give me a virtual shove out the door...

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    Posted by catwomyn (U1485618) on Sunday, 14th November 2010

    thank you for your responses.

    As an answer, my ankle/foot doesn't rotate or move sideways, as I had the talo-navicular joint fused about 5 or 6 years ago. So my foot isn't much good at shock absorbing and I don't go over rough ground well.

    Knee still hurty, and rather stupidly I went for a run this morning. Well, knee has been hurting all week so I thought if it's going to hurt anyway I might as well go for a run and get some exercise...

    I do wear pretty good trainers, Saucony Omni. I bought them from a specialist shop where the man helped me choose carefully after I told him about my foot and tried on several pairs. Although I bought them mainly for gym training rather than running.

    A sports physio is financially unviable, sadly, so if knee still hurty by the next time I go to the quacks (later this week, for something unrelated) I'll ask him then.

    Thanks again. I did the 3.5km run in 20 mins, without stopping/walking today smiley - smiley

    Cat x

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    Posted by Imperfectly37 (U4335981) on Sunday, 14th November 2010

    Catwomyn - welcome - glad you're getting out there (and that you feel you can visit here). I run in Saucony Omni too - except when I'm off road like yesterday; for that I have some adidas swoops, although given the blisters I got yesterday, I may be handing those down to elder imp.
    Anyway, a brief race report as there are no photos on the photographer's website yet. The link is here: www.seemypictures.co... and I expect to be at mile 15 between 1115 and 1130. They were promised to be there today, but not. However, the results are out - I was 133rd. 366 runners were registered, but entries were accepted on the day so I'm not sure how many people were actually running. The results list includes runners and walkers and I haven't been through to work out just how many runners there were. It's not that important - what I'm pleased about is that I was 11mins quicker than last year - although I missed my target - I just couldn't move any faster in the last couple of miles - it felt like my feet were stuck in the mud and the stiles were very difficult.
    I am feeling better today - the 'ouch' from the blister on my left instep is easing, but my hips are still sore.
    Campbell - I've cleaned my shoes so they will come with me to NL!
    I wore my garmin and my mile splits are very varied: from just over 8min miles to well over 10min miles - the terrain was very varied - including a tunnel under a busy road. The tunnel was for a stream so we had to negotiate steep steps down, stepping stones through the tunnel and then steep steps up. At one point we climbed a steep slope that dropped away on the right hand side such that a small bird of prey hovering over the adjoining field was on our level - amazing.
    I have some photos too, but they're all on OH's camera - when I've retrieved them (hopefully before he leaves for the US on Tuesday) I'll sort out some way of posting them with a link - I was muddy at the end smiley - smiley
    OK, well, hopefully another runners club mini meet on Tuesday, but as I'm away until Friday I may not be first to report it - but ' I'll be back'

    Good running all. Impish


    PS for those interested, elder imp was mentioned in assembly as the first in his team home in last weekend's race - that also puts him top in the school team standings for this season's races. As it's a yr 8 & 9 team and he's yr8, he (and I) are very pleased.

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Tuesday, 16th November 2010

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    ooh goodie, real live trail shoes close up. I'm off to get my stuff together and will be meeting up with Impish at her hotel on the coast at 11am our time. (Hope she's put her clock forward...)

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Tuesday, 16th November 2010

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    blimey cat, if that's what you do with a hurty knee, what do you do at your best? That's roughly my top speed in a 5 or 10k.

    Here's today's run with Impish on the beach.
    marathonwomanreturns...

    How's everyone else doing? Was the weather in the UK as sunny today as here? (Though I kept hearing warnings of thick mist on the radio in the car but no sign of it between here and the coast.)

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    Posted by catwomyn (U1485618) on Tuesday, 16th November 2010

    meant to say well done Impish on the race and on beating your last year's time.

    And you two, your beach run looks good.

    Campbell, I haven't been any further than 3.5km yet. And I've just been to the doc, who tested my ligaments, pronounced them sound, and said I've probably been overdoing it, too much too quickly. Complete rest, and Ibuprofen, until it's better. Hmm.

    Housemate suggested I go to an Up & Running shop where they make you run on a treadmill to analyse your running before recommending trainers. Think I'll give it a go, when my knee is better.

    Cat x

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    Posted by Mitch (U8863023) on Tuesday, 16th November 2010

    Hi Cat

    I'd defo recommend that.

    Impish and Campbell have a good run together looking forward to hearing all about it.

    Mitchx

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Thursday, 18th November 2010

    I'll second that cat. I also think that 3.5km in 20mins sounds quite fast for a beginner (you did say you were a "beginner", didn't you, or have i invented that???)

    While it is really tempting to progress as fast as possilbe, I think one of the best bits of advice from the old thread was to SLOW DOWN - to be able to hold a reasonable conversation.
    Sure, then, with more training, some speed training, some hill training, some circuit training..... etc, but while muscles and cardiovascular system (unless there is something wrong N.B.) improve quite quickly, tendons and ligaments take between 3 and 10 times as long to get stronger - I remember that from my climbing days - classic injuries were mainly down to these - snapped finger tendons are no laughing matter...

    Had some very bad news last week so didn't go out, even though it would clearly have done me the world of good.
    Went out tuesday again in the driving rain and really enjoyed it, so planning an outing again today. The dog is already looking expectant - HOW does he know?

    Al...

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    Posted by catwomyn (U1485618) on Thursday, 18th November 2010

    Al, firstly, I'm sorry to hear you have had some very bad news. I hope things improve for you.

    I'm a beginner runner, but am pretty fit otherwise, as until recently I was a 4-times a week gym goer. Mix of classes (bodypump & step) and machines - cross trainer & weights, and free weights. My leg muscles are all very strong to be honest.

    When I started running I went with my housemate, who is pretty experienced (ran a marathon earlier this year, and is a veteran of half marathons) so she set the pace ideal for a beginner. When I went on my own for the first time I clearly went too fast, but the last couple of times I have been I deliberately tried to go slower. I thought I was going really slowly actually!

    Went to Boxercise last night, it has a circuits type workout, but I did crunches instead of the running bits. Knee not too bad today.

    I'm going in to Leeds later and was considering going tot he up & running place (where they do the treadmill gait analysis) but housemate said I should wait until my knee is completely better.

    Thanks for the advice, I'm taking it all in.

    Cat x

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    Posted by Imperfectly37 (U4335981) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    Hello all,
    Sorry to have been away so long - my work pc refused to connect to the interweb when I was away, but I was thinking of you all.

    I took my Garmin on the run with Campbell - we went 7 miles! All the way to Bergen (next place up the coast) and back again - including a little detour as we went a different way back into Egmond from the beach and did a bit of a circle trying to find my hotel - I was amazed we couldn't find it as when I was in it, it felt huge! (Sorry Basia)

    Anyway, here's a link to the page that my race photos are on - I'm on the bottom row (and to make it easy, I wore the same kit for the race and for my run with Campbell - although even my own brother didn't recognise me).
    www.seemypictures.co...

    I didn't run for the rest of my NL trip - it got very busy and I had 2 training sessions to run and a meeting to chair....

    However, both imps had activities on Saturday morning so I fitted a run in then and went out today at lunchtime, so I'm starting to get back into the groove. I had to smile today - my lunchtime runs are a great opportunity to get out in natural light and it wasn't too cold today, but when I got back and went to stretch in the gym - all 3 treadmills were being used - I mean, who would run inside when it's bright and sunny outside? Am I weird, or is it them?

    Good running all. Impish x

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    Posted by Imperfectly37 (U4335981) on Monday, 22nd November 2010

    Sorry - me again. I just wanted to put my twopenn'orth in on 'slow' running. For those who read this when I posted it before - skip through, but for those that are newer to the thread, I too used to run 'fast' all the time. I ran a 10k race about 15 months into my running career and thought 'wow - I can run x min miles' and so tried to run all my runs at that speed. My next race was terrible - my legs felt heavy and I struggled to get to the end. Then I was given my garmin gadget and I actually went and sought out some information about training and how to do it 'properly'. The first thing I learnt was that race pace is not training pace and that there are recommended paces (either based on effort or Heart rate) for the various types of training run - steady, tempo, recovery, interval. I still struggle to run at my 'advised' steady pace - every now and again I set the warning on my HRM to beep at me when I work 'too hard'. It's also a bit about mindset - I'm quite competitive and to run at almost 2 mins per mile slower than a pace I have achieved (although only really under race conditions) was difficult to get my mind round. However, I have now been running regularly for over 30 months and have never taken any time out due to injury - so common sense tells me that it's the right thing to do - but I still have to work at it - even today I found myself speeding up while I was out because I let my mind wander.....

    Well, that's me for tonight. Impish (waiting for sinterklaas so I can eat my chocolate 'M' - thanks Campbell) x

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    Posted by catwomyn (U1485618) on Tuesday, 23rd November 2010

    me again.

    Well soddit. My knee is still hurty, regardless of what I do. And I'm in a VERY bad mood, am anxious and blue and can't settle, so I'm off for a run. Will take it easy and intersperse with walking.

    If my knee hurts anyway, then running isn't going to make it THAT much worse. I don't care.

    Cat x

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    Posted by Imperfectly37 (U4335981) on Wednesday, 24th November 2010

    We're at the bottom of the mayo, so I'm posting with not much to say, but it will push up back up a bit. I didn't run yesterday - got roped in to a game of badminton (a foursome that were one short due to one of their number being on paternity leave). It was different - and fun. I found I had an advantage towards the end of the session when they were all tired and my stamina was still allowing me to run round the court.
    Am due to run at lunchtime today - have brought my kit (warm stuff) and the sky is blue, so looking forward to it - it may be the last run outside for a while.

    Impish (who doesn't like running in snow) x

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Wednesday, 24th November 2010

    I suspect everyone's posting less since the change. I just keep up with a couple of my favourite threads - the new format has taken all the fun out of the messageboard for me really. Anyway, running. My second county to county marathon on Saturday is promising to be seriously cold...
    Which doesn't have to be a disaster if I can get the clothes combination right. Will definitely be taking gloves this year as I remember my fingers freezing last year in some places where the wind was particularly chilling. Possibly with plastic overgloves (the kind you get with hair colouring) to pull over them if it rains/snows.

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    Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Wednesday, 24th November 2010

    I haven't posted here in a while but I've re-started my very low-key jogging of late (yes, I use the 'J' word fearlessly). It's cold and sunny today in Ottawa, minus 1 Celsius so I'll go for my Two-Bridge, 3-mile 'run' by the Rideau Canal in a bit. Very pretty. I'll take my cross-country ski gloves but probably end up carrying them. Ditto for ear band.

    Had a funny situation yesterday when I went out with husband and brother-in-law's dog. I tried to abandon them so they could go home and I could do my little so-called 'run' (elderly doggie, didn't want to go far) but as I stood on the bridge looking at my husband trying to take the dog home, doggie kept turning around and looking for me, looking so worried that I had pity on him and re-united our threesome. He's a collie and I think he objects to his flock splitting up.

    So I escorted them home and THEN went for my run. And he barked and barked while I was out, apparently. So we have a bit of separation anxiety going on there. Luckily he was only with us for the day!

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    Posted by helena handcart (U14258601) on Thursday, 25th November 2010

    I'm a bit of a lapsed runner.

    I've been reading fitness magazines to try to motivate myself and in the running gear reviews, they had jackets with a hood. as I have never had a running jacket with a hood, I wonder if they are needed. does anyone have an opinion on this?

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    Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Thursday, 25th November 2010

    As a fellow lapsed runner, Helena, I find a hat more useful for keeping warm. I use one of those stretchy skull cap hats. My runs are short enough for me to be able to plan NOT to run in the rain. (See my board name.)

    It strikes me that a hood would keep blowing off or would have to be tied under your chin and then untied when you get warm. A hat's easier to snatch off and just keep in your hand.

    On the other hand, if you plan to run in the rain or wind, a hoodie's a good idea and in any case, it could be useful as a casual jacket.

    I'd just pick out a jacket you like and makes you feel good - new clothes are quite motivating, aren't they?

    P.S. Brrrrrrrrrr - forgot my hat yesterday and the temperature kept dropping. I chose a circular route a bit too long to run it all - 5 miles - so got a bit chilly when I was too tired to run any more. Won't make that mistake again!

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    Posted by helena handcart (U14258601) on Thursday, 25th November 2010

    Hello JustJanie, I wasn't planning on buying a coat but was curious, as I've not seen anyone wear a hood when running. Some of the magazines I've been reading are not very good but a friend passes them on to me.

    I usually wear a beanie in winter, and a baseball hat in summer. but the baseball hat gets really wet if it rains.

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Thursday, 25th November 2010

    I wear a cap (I've never played baseball in my life and am actually a bit vague as to whether it's the game with the bat or the pointy rugby ball...) whilst running in the rain to keep the water out of my eyes. I wear a Buff around my neck or over my head when it's cold. Have never run with a hood and imagine it being Very Annoying.

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Friday, 26th November 2010



    yowza, that sounds painful.

    good luck on saturday campbell - very cold here too. On Wednesday I went out a bit later than planned, and it was rather dark on the way home through the woods. I had a torch (and a big dog) with me, so no problem, but was wearing my normal, calf length running pnats. Well, my calves were fine, but my thighs and behind were fer-rrreeezing. In fact I am a bit stiff today as normal stretching was curtailed in order to start running again and get the heck home and keep warm (did stretch when I got home).
    Time to get in th loft and get the mountaineering underwear out.

    cat, your knee sounds like a right pain (sorry) hope it improves soon. Not convinced that running on it is helpful....how about some cycling?

    Al...

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Friday, 26th November 2010



    now WHY have I never thought of that. 'sobvious. of course.
    DOH

    thanks campbell.

    seriously hope for no precipitation today though as I think it would be in the form of hail, the only weather that will make both the dog and myself stay firmly indoors.

    Al...

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    Posted by Imperfectly37 (U4335981) on Friday, 26th November 2010

    My run on Wednesday was ok - I hadn't had a good night's sleep on Tuesday night, so I was tired and, as I ran to heart rate (after running too fast on Monday), I was slower than usual. However, it felt good to have got out. Now, it's really cold, but there's been no snow here so I did go out this morning. The car thermometer was showing minus 1 when I dropped elder imp at school, but younger imp and I then walked to school and I ran 'the long way' home (6 and a bit miles - so a kind of long run). I wore long trousers, a fleece, gloves, hat and buff - which I pulled up over my mouth and nose to start out as the air was sooooo cold. I hate to think how I looked, but I didn't meet many others. I went on trails and country paths and it was very crunchy underfoot. However, as the sun got up a bit, it was warmer and I was quite toasty by the time I got home and I was pleased I went out - can't remember who it was, but I like the phrase / quote - the hardest step is the one out of the door.
    Well, elder imp has the next school race tomorrow and snow is forecast overnight. I've had a note from school to say that all rugby fixtures are cancelled, but not so the running - made of tough stuff (or just mad).
    I'll let you know how it goes - I'm going to try and persuade him to wear his running tights under his school shorts, slthogh I soubt I'l be able to tell you his reply when I suggest it.

    Good running all. Impish x

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Saturday, 27th November 2010

    Well done impish.
    I also went out in the stunningly beautiful freezing weather yesterday. Had a good run, apart from a cow/dog incident which fortunately ended well.

    I dug out my old mountaineering underwear, and wore the trousers under my running tights. Toasty!
    I think I might have to invest in some new fleece headbands as I really don't like wearing hats. I end up taking them off and then getting cold.


    Well, I am seriously considering /finally/ entering my first race... off to have another look at it.

    Al...

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  • Message 48

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    Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Saturday, 27th November 2010

    just a wave to Basia, whom I haven't seen in the running club for ages and ages. Hope you ok and still pounding those parks across the pond.

    Al...

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  • Message 49

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Ooh, Al, tell us about your first potential race then. 5k? Road/cross? How exciting.

    Imp, glad you got your early morning run home in - it's the planning and getting out there that's the difficult part - once you're literally up and running it's great.

    I managed to come LAST in the Zuiderzee marathon on Sunday - it was great smiley - winkeye
    I got to pretend I was Paula Radclyffe, what with the motorbike escort and the car with the big digital clock in front of me. Will do a full report on the blog later.

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  • Message 50

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    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    marathonwomanreturns...
    Well here it is - number 5 in my 12 Dutch Counties ongoing marathon challenge.

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