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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by weesnowball (U5509747) on Friday, 28th December 2012


    A child, taken from her father and reunited with her mother is "breaking news" and the first item on tonight's BBC news.

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    Posted by auldhairy (U14258268) on Friday, 28th December 2012


    A child, taken from her father and reunited with her mother is "breaking news" and the first item on tonight's BBC news.  

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/u...

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    Posted by Skyebird (U14198692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Overkill? I don't think so. It is a story that many will be interested in and makes a change from doom and gloom and the weather.

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    Posted by Captain (U5370901) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I couldn't quite understand which law the father broke. It said he was in prison for refusing to say where she was. Does that mean they suspected that he killed her?

    On the one o'clock news they urged parents not to take children away from the mother at such a young age as it causes damage that lasts well into adulthood. Thought that was quite interesting but they went on to say it's not always the father that takes the child.

    Perhaps there's not much news in between Christmas and New Year!

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    Posted by sthilda (U3612164) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I couldn't quite understand which law the father broke. It said he was in prison for refusing to say where she was. Does that mean they suspected that he killed her?

    On the one o'clock news they urged parents not to take children away from the mother at such a young age as it causes damage that lasts well into adulthood. Thought that was quite interesting but they went on to say it's not always the father that takes the child.

    Perhaps there's not much news in between Christmas and New Year! 
    She was kidnapped...

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    Posted by Lucretzia (U5974342) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I couldn't quite understand which law the father broke. It said he was in prison for refusing to say where she was. Does that mean they suspected that he killed her? 

    Child abduction.

    Very cruel case.

    The father didn't even want the child for himself. Took her to Pakistan and then returned to the UK.

    I think prison is what he deserves.

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    Posted by TLJ (U8384488) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I couldn't quite understand which law the father broke. It said he was in prison for refusing to say where she was. Does that mean they suspected that he killed her? 

    He was imprisoned for contempt of court.

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    Posted by Dresdenshepherdess (U3509991) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    I couldn't quite understand which law the father broke. It said he was in prison for refusing to say where she was. Does that mean they suspected that he killed her? 

    Child abduction.

    Very cruel case.

    The father didn't even want the child for himself. Took her to Pakistan and then returned to the UK.

    I think prison is what he deserves.  
    I couldn't agree more.

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    Posted by sesley (U4024157) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    This case highlights for other UK parents of international partners, who take the children away from the UK and contact with of separated parent.

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    Posted by LoopyLobes (U14384399) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    I'm surprised more hasn't been said about this. Poor child. It's a dreadful situation, she won't even know her mother now, surely?

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    Posted by auldhairy (U14258268) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Gemma Wilkinson 'overwhelmed' as abducted Atiya returns.

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/u...

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    Posted by Straw_Donkey (U14516455) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    A sad story and not really a happy ending. The child will have a lot to learn with the language and cultural differences. There is no suggestion that she was not happy in Pakistan so I hope that she remains in touch with her father's side of the family whilst adjusting to life with her mother.

    As for the OP, no it hasn't been news overkill.

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    Posted by flea (U15343752) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    I think it's quite an astounding case.

    He didn't want his child, he just didn't want the mother to have her.

    What a piece of work.

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    Posted by malfunction (U1523018) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Quite. It's not news overkill as the mother used the media to highlight her case, and quite understandibly so.

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    Posted by Straw_Donkey (U14516455) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Isn't it the case that he did want the child but knew that if he kept her with him in the UK the arrangement wouldn't last once the police were informed? From what I've seen of the case he very much wanted the child to grow up with his family as a second choice to being with him. People are too quick to judge, in most cases both parents want what THEY perceive as the best life for their child.

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    Posted by BrightYangThing (U14627705) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Overkill? Are you kidding? Have you read the details? There are some really really heartless people out there.

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    Posted by weesnowball (U5509747) on Saturday, 29th December 2012


    I'm afraid I still think "overkill" is quite appropriate. I just wondered if it actually merited being the opening report on the news complete with live coverage from Manchester airport and footage of the village in Pakistan.

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    Posted by LooseWheel (U2499574) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    A sad story and not really a happy ending. The child will have a lot to learn with the language and cultural differences. There is no suggestion that she was not happy in Pakistan so I hope that she remains in touch with her father's side of the family whilst adjusting to life with her mother. 

    I'm intrigued to know why you think this isn't a happy ending Straw Donkey? She's only six and will soon overcome any cultural differences as she gets used to living with her mum again. I don't really see that whether she was happy in Pakistan or not has anything to do with it - she had been forcibly removed from her mother's care at three years old and frankly if I were her mum I wouldn't be in the least concerned if she never had contact with her father's family throughout the rest of her childhood, given they were complicit in keeping her from her mother. What she elects to do as an adult is another matter, but that will be for her to decide.
    LW x

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    Posted by sthilda (U3612164) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Taking a child from the country, language, culture and family she knows is a rather warped sense of ' best ' for her....he then dumped her with people she didnt know in a country she didint know and left her there.... He deprived her of her mother and refused to say where she was...so afaic he can rot in jail...he has damged her for life in all liklihood.

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    Posted by sthilda (U3612164) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Lw, in her terms she has now twice in her short life been abandoned by those whosupposed to be caring for her and who are supposed to be trustworthy,once when she was taken to pakistan and now by being returned to england...obviously it was not her mothers fault it happened but i mean in terms of how it is experienced....so this isa happy neding for her mum, but this kid will have alot to deal with over the years to come( as will her family looking after her).

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    Posted by BrightYangThing (U14627705) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    What would you have made the lead story then?

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    Posted by BrightYangThing (U14627705) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Lw, in her terms she has now twice in her short life been abandoned by those whosupposed to be caring for her and who are supposed to be trustworthy, 

    Spot on Sthilda. Very sad situation. Poor chiid has been a pawn. 'Best interest' is all too often used as a cop out.

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    Posted by LooseWheel (U2499574) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Yes Hilda I do agree that this poor little girl will have a lot to deal with emotionally, I do not however, think that in the long run this isn't a 'happy ending' for her. Many children are resilient and at six, she will be able to catch up with schooling she's missed, and frankly, the opportunities for her as a female here, are a helluva lot better than in a traditionally patriarchal society there (IMO - I know that for upper caste families opportunities are also available for females in Pakistan, but I don't know which level of society this particular child is from). She will have her mother's love to see her through, which is more than she had in Pakistan.
    LW x

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    Posted by auldhairy (U14258268) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    The MEP who helped.

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/u...

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    Posted by Dresdenshepherdess (U3509991) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    I haven't yet read your link, auldhairy, but I already have the utmost respect for him. He knew what was truly important and acted accordingly. Until he became aware of the case, that poor woman didn't know if her daughter was alive or dead.
    Straw Donkey, that man taunted the mother that she would never see her daughter again. How can you support such cruelty?

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by auldhairy (U14258268) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    The link is Sajjad Karim talking about the case.

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    Posted by Dresdenshepherdess (U3509991) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Thankyou Auldhairy. Just got it to work.

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    Posted by sthilda (U3612164) on Saturday, 29th December 2012

    Yes Hilda I do agree that this poor little girl will have a lot to deal with emotionally, I do not however, think that in the long run this isn't a 'happy ending' for her. Many children are resilient and at six, she will be able to catch up with schooling she's missed, and frankly, the opportunities for her as a female here, are a helluva lot better than in a traditionally patriarchal society there (IMO - I know that for upper caste families opportunities are also available for females in Pakistan, but I don't know which level of society this particular child is from). She will have her mother's love to see her through, which is more than she had in Pakistan.
    LW x  
    I am sure that is true lw, however the org that supports people in this situation say that it has alifelong impact on the children because wholehearted trust is destroyed. I am sure her chances are better here, but that does not alter the psychological impact.

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