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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    OK soon as you mention cats on boards, FB, twitter or otherwise you are in for a rough ride if it's anything negative.

    So here's Gordon, he does not want his garden/home etc used as a cat toilet.

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/u...

    So is this wrong?
    On one hand cats are feral , semi wild animals so belong to no one.

    Or they are the property of many a person, as they claim and post on t'internet, millions of pictures/posts about them say so.

    So then the owner must be liable for catcraps?

    If not why not?


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  • Message 2

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    Posted by Alsdouble (U524298) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Dig it in



    scoop it up and bin, burn it..

    wassproblem? There is no problem.

    next time wasting topic?

    < snore > Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

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  • Message 3

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Why should i scoop up your cat's waste, dog owners have to do it themselves or get fined.

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  • Message 4

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012



    next time wasting topic? 
    Should Tim get a turkey or just the usual tiny humbug lol.

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  • Message 5

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I'm not that fond of finding it in the pots that most of my plants are in, especially when potting up plants in the spring. I feel quite ill at the very thought.

    Nor am I terribly happy about removing the corpses of the birds that the neighbourhood cats kill for entertainment. Six so far this year

    But I wouldn't dream of harming them, and kidnapping them and releasing them into the wild, where they're likely to fall prey to all sorts of horrible fates, horrifies me.

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  • Message 6

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    Posted by Donkey Hotey aka Bollynix (U15440692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I suppose as soon as they leave the house they're 'in the wild', Fluff, and subject to all that entails. Not that I'm defending the old man in any way, shape or form, of course, just feeling in a nit picking mood (takes my mind off not being able to breathe).

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    But I wouldn't dream of harming them, and kidnapping them and releasing them into the wild, where they're likely to fall prey to all sorts of horrible fates, horrifies me. 
    Interesting
    . Nor am I terribly happy about removing the corpses of the birds that the neighbourhood cats kill for entertainment. Six so far this year  
    Not entertainment but the skills they have to survive the first part of your post.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by Alsdouble (U524298) on Friday, 28th December 2012



    next time wasting topic? 
    Should Tim get a turkey or just the usual tiny humbug lol. 
    goose....!

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    <quote(takes my mind off not being able to breathe)quote>

    COPD or the wife/husband stole your credit cards?

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by Constance (U14594138) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I believe cats have a different legal status to dogs to recognise that the owners can't control them. So you could sue a dog owner for damage in your garden but not a cat owner and if you hit a dog with your car you should report it to the police, but you aren't required to do that with a cat. Mind you, I read that many years ago, the law may have changed.

    Someone told me recently that in Canada it is an offence (presumably only in residential areas) to let your cat loose outdoors.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Not entertainment but the skills they have to survive the first part of your post. 

    If all they do in the wild is what they do in my garden, ie, kill the bird and don't eat it, they're not really going to last long.

    Your comment of "interesting" interests me! Why so? The worst I have ever done to cats is fire a low powered water pistol at them. Taking them and releasing them into an unfamiliar environment, traumatising the cat and its owners, really does horrify me.

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by auldhairy (U14258268) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Beware of the cat! Royal Mail refuses to deliver any more letters after Biscuit the ginger moggy scratches postman

    www.dailymail.co.uk/...

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Don't look too deep fluff, i meant it made me think of your second part of post, I wouldn't dream of you being unkind to any furry animal.

    Of course, new posters repeating a topic are different game lol. OK shame there's no wink smiley .

    Happy new year BTW smiley - smiley

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by auldhairy (U14258268) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Too cute for her own good: Chips the orphaned bobcat is such a softy her carers are having to toughen her up to save her life

    www.dailymail.co.uk/...

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Ah, got it, EOAS. No, not me, I'm not the type. Though if confronted with a grizzly bear, I might be tempted to give it a light slap.

    Of course, new posters repeating a topic are different game lol. 

    Cross-board snork!

    Happy new year to you too.

    Fluff

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Donkey Hotey aka Bollynix (U15440692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    COPD, Egg? Don't know what you mean, sorry. I'm just suffering a heavy cold but I'm not mentioning it, cos I don't like to complain.......< wheeze...hawk....dribble >

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    en.wikipedia.org/wik...

    That's COPD.

    You lucky so and so, when you see the worst, then having something not so bad, ain't so bad.

    Speedy recovery.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I think ultimately the judge implied you can own a cat. Or where does theft come into it?

    If you own a furry, freethinking ball of purr or claw, surely now you are responsible for what it does?

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by Donkey Hotey aka Bollynix (U15440692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    That's COPD.

    You lucky so and so, when you see the worst, then having something not so bad, ain't so bad.

    Speedy recovery. 


    Oh, good lord! Yes I am lucky, aren't I? Colds always go my chest (bronchials have always been dodgy since asthma as a child) so I'm lucky an inhaler gets me through the grimest bits.

    Thanks for the good wishes.

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Perkin Warbeck is not a cannibal (U14797366) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    OK soon as you mention cats on boards, FB, twitter or otherwise you are in for a rough ride if it's anything negative.

    So here's Gordon, he does not want his garden/home etc used as a cat toilet.

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/u...

    So is this wrong?
    On one hand cats are feral , semi wild animals so belong to no one.

    Or they are the property of many a person, as they claim and post on t'internet, millions of pictures/posts about them say so.

    So then the owner must be liable for catcraps?

    If not why not?


     
    Yes, it is wrong. That's why he was fined.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Thanks for the good wishes.  
    You are welcome, shame the hug smiley don't work either X smiley - smiley

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by Perkin Warbeck is not a cannibal (U14797366) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    big 'get well soon' for all poorly posters!

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  • Message 23

    , in reply to message 20.

    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    OK soon as you mention cats on boards, FB, twitter or otherwise you are in for a rough ride if it's anything negative.

    So here's Gordon, he does not want his garden/home etc used as a cat toilet.

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/u...

    So is this wrong?
    On one hand cats are feral , semi wild animals so belong to no one.

    Or they are the property of many a person, as they claim and post on t'internet, millions of pictures/posts about them say so.

    So then the owner must be liable for catcraps?

    If not why not?


     
    Yes, it is wrong. That's why he was fined. 
    For letting them loose in the wild without means of support.

    For an animal that lives amongst us, yet until they get old don't really become dependant upon us and are quite capable of living independently, or off all the neighbours, it seems a bit rich.

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by Perkin Warbeck is not a cannibal (U14797366) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Don't get dependant on you?!?

    You just try telling that to Perkincat when she demands a lap to settle down on......

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Don't get dependant on you?!?

    You just try telling that to Perkincat when she demands a lap to settle down on...... 
    Do you own Perkincat then Perkin

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by auldhairy (U14258268) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    This seems like a good thread for this,

    Can you spot the 'invisible animal'? Incredible images show nature's disappearing act when predators are near

    www.dailymail.co.uk/...

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by Perkin Warbeck is not a cannibal (U14797366) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    well, no, perkincat owns me.......

    Cat poo in your garden is not nice, there are lots of cats round here so I get a fair bit of cat poo, mostly other people's cats as Perkincat tends to stay in and use her litter tray.

    But I'm not sure what you can do about it. But one also gets birdpoo, leaky tree sap etc etc - all part of nature. I get fox poo in my allotment.

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    well, no, perkincat owns me.......

    Cat poo in your garden is not nice, there are lots of cats round here so I get a fair bit of cat poo, mostly other people's cats as Perkincat tends to stay in and use her litter tray.

    But I'm not sure what you can do about it. But one also gets birdpoo, leaky tree sap etc etc - all part of nature. I get fox poo in my allotment.  
    You can shoot a bird, chop a tree, shoot a fox, or trap it?

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  • Message 29

    , in reply to message 27.

    Posted by Donkey Hotey aka Bollynix (U15440692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I get fox poo in my allotment. 

    Oh, nasty. My dog is jealous, though. She's more than happy to roll in it for you; it sticks to her coat beautifully.

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by Perkin Warbeck is not a cannibal (U14797366) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I think foxes are protected. Anyway, you can't just go around killing things cos they have a poo.............

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  • Message 31

    , in reply to message 29.

    Posted by Perkin Warbeck is not a cannibal (U14797366) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I get fox poo in my allotment. 

    Oh, nasty. My dog is jealous, though. She's more than happy to roll in it for you; it sticks to her coat beautifully.  
    I would just like to point out I don't roll in the fox poo, so your dog has nothing to be jealous about!!

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by Donkey Hotey aka Bollynix (U15440692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Snork!

    You have it 'on tap' so to speak, Perkin. Her idea of heaven.

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  • Message 33

    , in reply to message 28.

    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    At Scarborough Magistrates' Court on 19 December Wilson admitted an offence under the Animal Welfare Act 2006 of abandoning a cat and making no provision for its needs, and two counts of theft. 

    The part of abandoning, ok all well and good.

    So where does theft come in for a creature that is semi feral?
    Unless this magistrate is declaring that cat owners are exactly that.

    If so a whole new set of responsibilities now descend upon them.
    I would immediately bang a claim in for cat poo clearance by an experienced HAZMAT team lol..

    en.wikipedia.org/wik...

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    you can't just go around killing things cos they have a poo 
    Stick a red coat on, blow a horn and chase the poor beggers into the ground with a few horses and then let the canines rip em to shreds.........

    Perhaps cats need bigger tails?

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by Perkin Warbeck is not a cannibal (U14797366) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Snork!

    You have it 'on tap' so to speak, Perkin. Her idea of heaven.  
    Bless!
    You want I should post her some?

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by Donkey Hotey aka Bollynix (U15440692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    How kind.







    No thank you.


    The poor postman emptying the post box would be gassed overcome with the aroma. Essence of fox. The dog would dab it behind her ears if she could.

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by Hesperus (U14543047) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    EOS, I am wondering why none of the cat lovers ever seem to reply to complaints of this sort.

    Dog people always seem to reply - usual;y in reasonable terms- to complaints about the behaviour of their dogs.

    Why don't cat owners do the same?

    This is, of course, purely rhetorical because they have no defence - and they know it. Cat ownership is an anti-social business.

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by Donkey Hotey aka Bollynix (U15440692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Cat ownership is an anti-social business. 

    < Sharp intake of breath (resulting in a nasty bout of coughing) >

    Bolls runs off to find her tin hat.

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by Hesperus (U14543047) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Well; do come back with your hat on and have some sort of debate with those of us who, ( whilst not being animal haters), have issues with fouling of gardens and killing of birds.

    I don't actually think that it is kind to cats to keep them cooped up in houses. But on the other hand it is not kind to wildlife or to gardeners to let them out.

    Some justifications would be interesting.

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by Donkey Hotey aka Bollynix (U15440692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    No, no, you misunderstand me Hesperus. (You're not alone, believe me). I tend to agree with your previous post I was just being facetious.

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by Penstemon (U4429639) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    When I moved here, the fence was covered in small spikes over the top, its a marvellous deterrent. No cats and no poo. Lovely.

    I have had cats as pets but regretted it mainly because of the distress cat poo causes other people, although I have other reasons. Pets should be confined to their owners property and when I had cats I tried to keep to this, not always successfully it as to be said.

    I'd never harm an animal, but if a cat did poo in my garden I'd certainly consider returning it to its owners property PDQ ( the cat and the poo that is).

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  • Message 42

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    Posted by Hesperus (U14543047) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Sausages - nice to be able to agree with you. Cat faeces are very dangerous, because of transmission of various diseases and there is no way that gardens can be cat-proofed. Responsible dog-owners do contain their pets and clear up afte them but even if cat owners were prepared to do this it would not be physically possible.

    I suffer from neighbours cats who are able to access my garden- and they really annoy my dogs - but they just shrug and say - thats what cats do.

    I would not want to ban cats because I do know that in country areas they can do a good job in controlling vermin (though jack russells can be just as good) - what I really can't understand is why so many people try to keep them in urban environments.

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012


    I'd never harm an animal, but if a cat did poo in my garden I'd certainly consider returning it to its owners property PDQ ( the cat and the poo that is).  


    Catmines?

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  • Message 44

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    Posted by Borsetshire Blue (U2260326) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    I'd never harm an animal, but if a cat did poo in my garden I'd certainly consider returning it to its owners property PDQ ( the cat and the poo that is).  

    I'd do the same but I'm never entirely sure which of the 11 cats kept by the woman who lives two doors away is to blame.

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  • Message 45

    , in reply to message 37.

    Posted by Roots (U2273958) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    EOS, I am wondering why none of the cat lovers ever seem to reply to complaints of this sort.

    Dog people always seem to reply - usual;y in reasonable terms- to complaints about the behaviour of their dogs.

    Why don't cat owners do the same?

    This is, of course, purely rhetorical because they have no defence - and they know it. Cat ownership is an anti-social business. 
    Hesperus, I can't answer for other cat owners, but maybe one reason we don't reply to these sort of complaints is that it's all been said before.

    I've got three cats, and I'm a keen gardener, and I use various methods to keep my cats and visiting cats off the veg patch and the seed beds, none of which harm the cats.

    The OP was about a person who seemed to have gone to an extreme to keep cats off his garden, trapping them and taking them away - so didn't harm them physically, but caused suffering to the cats, by removing them from their known environment, and probably suffering to their owners who wouldn't have a clue what had happened to their pets.

    As stated in one of the media reports, it was probably a bit of an excessive reaction to cats visiting his garden, but he's been fined, has admitted that he's not proud of what he's done, and family seem to have rallied round to help him make the best of his garden without resorting to such measures.

    So, end of story perhaps?

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    So if Gordon had despatched the cats in a humane way and returned them to the neighbour, would, could he have been found guilty?

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  • Message 47

    , in reply to message 41.

    Posted by Halliana (U2407863) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    On other cat threads, I have posted my own recipe for detering cats from my garden.

    I have fences and smear the top of them and the gates with a sticky mix of petroleum jelly and lots of pepper.

    Cats seem not to like pepper and the petroleum jelly helps it stick and last longer in the rain.

    warning :
    Do NoT RuB Your Eyes Without Thouroughly Washing Your Hands.

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  • Message 48

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    Posted by Hesperus (U14543047) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Not really - you may well be prepared to take all these precautions - but why should the rest of us be prepared to put up with the nuisance of your animals?

    Dog owners come under a great deal of criticism and pressure about the way their animals bahave but cat owners just shrug their sholders and say - well the onus is on you to take precautions.

    An acknowledgment that your animals are really annoying some of us might be the first stage in a dialogue.

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  • Message 49

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    Posted by Donkey Hotey aka Bollynix (U15440692) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Top post, Roots.

    Perhaps we could have a once size fits all thread that could be created, a sort of Dogs are Horrible, Cats are Horrible, Fox Hunting is Horrible, Your choice of Literature/Humour/Music is horrible whilst mine is beyond reproach, You're a swivel eyed right wing loony, no you're a swivel eyed left wing loony so NER.

    Leave the rest of us to have a bit of a laugh.

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  • Message 50

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    Posted by Penstemon (U4429639) on Friday, 28th December 2012

    Spikes that's what you need, work wonders here!

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