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Tayler / Keri - Future Queries

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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Mustafa Grumble (U8596785) on Tuesday, 12th February 2013

    Hi Tayler, Keri

    One of the best and for me most valued benefits of ML is this particular corner - N&Q. The ability to ask questions and, indeed, query possible inconsistencies.

    Elsewhere Mike has said how useful it is and has been to be able to confirm details on arcane matters, such as Caroline's previous boyfriends. And *I* should love to know how Harriet Noakes disappeared from Ambridge's collective consciousness!

    Will it in future be possible to address such queries via email to either of you, or to The Mailbox, please - and if so, to which address?

    Many thanks

    MG

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  • Message 2

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by conductor (U2040502) on Tuesday, 12th February 2013

    Seconded.

    --<-@

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  • Message 3

    , in reply to message 2.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 12th February 2013

    Thirded

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  • Message 4

    , in reply to message 3.

    Posted by Mustafa Grumble (U8596785) on Thursday, 14th February 2013

    Keri / Tayler

    This is quite important to some of us - what do we do in future, please?

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  • Message 5

    , in reply to message 4.

    Posted by Keri Davies (U2219620) on Thursday, 14th February 2013

    The email address for queries is

    radio4.webteam@bbc.co.uk

    But I'd encourage you to use Facebook or Twitter, as that way the answers will be shared with other interested listeners.

    I know they aren't for everyone, but you could use Twitter simply to follow The Archers and for no other purpose if you wanted. It's very easy to sign up.

    Anyway, I hope that helps.

  • Message 6

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by Feral Techie (U14699583) on Thursday, 14th February 2013

    And as of next month, the only way to read Twitter will be on its own web site and through "official" clients - the RSS feeds, and the rest of the API that made it accessible to many more people, are being shut down so as to gain more control over readers' personal data.

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  • Message 7

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by barwick_green (U2668006) on Thursday, 14th February 2013

    Hi Keri

    Do you agree that FB and Twitter are ephemeral? A decade ago it was MySpace, Bebo and Friends Reunited that ruled the social roost yet all three are now little more than relics? Will FB & T still be recognised in ten or even five years as they are today? I very much doubt it given the transitory nature of communications.

    I refuse to share my personal details with FB and Twitter ( I agree, for once, with David Cameron's comment about what too many Twitters makes) is simply not suited to making anything other than pithy - at best - one-liners.

    I couldn't post this on Twitter as I'm restricted (in every sense of the word) to 140 characters. In many ways, not having the freedom to express myself in such a limited form is a form a censorship

    I would be interested to know your opinions please.

    Thanks

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  • Message 8

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by Dragonfly (U2223700) on Thursday, 14th February 2013

    It doesn't help, Keri, I'm afraid. I won't use Twitter and Facebook for all the reasons that other people have cited to do with not having full confidence about what happens to people's personal data.

    Anyway, thanks for everything. It was fun while it lasted, some of the time, anyway.

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  • Message 9

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by Mustafa Grumble (U8596785) on Thursday, 14th February 2013

    The email address for queries is

    radio4.webteam@bbc.co.uk

    But I'd encourage you to use Facebook or Twitter, as that way the answers will be shared with other interested listeners.

    I know they aren't for everyone, but you could use Twitter simply to follow The Archers and for no other purpose if you wanted. It's very easy to sign up. 

    Thanks Keri - the reply is appreciated, although I must admit to feeling sceptical that the "radio4 webteam" will be able to answer such arcane queries as that from Barwick Green concerning "Lynda's" failing memory: Despite Linda Smell's typically peevish comment about Hilary Nokes -'the only thing she's ever produced is a cockatiel' (when talking about having children) Mrs Nokes DOES have a daughter. Her name is Harriet and she would be about Pip's age and they live in Glebelands. She has been mentioned a few times in recent years as being an ardent horse rider and Pip disliked her because of the Nokes being actively against the planned poo digester.

    Tayler - could you please be so kind to find out if I am correct? (And don't be swayed by nonsense that Harriet was adopted so Hilary hasn't produced a child.)  
    Incidentally, that's 605 characters (and not a # or @ in sight ...) Even my post in that thread giving the links to two threads in which Harriet Noakes was referenced comes in at about 149 characters!

    Will queries such as this, or as to who played a particular Extra in an episode, or how a property was left to a grievin' widder, *really* be capable of being answered by the "radio 4 webteam"? Or will they simply forward the query on to you lot at the Mailbox?

    Please forgive my suspicion that the production team really don't want to hear from us (I suspect you see us as the awkward squad, and will raise glasses of champagne when we are finally silenced) ... the ones who like to compose posts of more than 140 characters, the ones who want to have continuity of subject within a thread.

    And why the **** should I want to share my personal details with FaceTwit? And why should I want to use either, particularly that most trivial and banal of human inventions, Twitter, to "follow" The Archers? I DON'T WANT to "follow" TA, I want to DISCUSS it, with other interested (and generally intelligent, well-read and polite, if sometimes caustic) listeners. And you can't do that on FaceTwit.

    2,017 characters, including spaces, to the full stop. And this post won't get lost in a general discussion about how wonderfully sweet and loving the fair & gentle Vicky is, or how stunningly well researched and accurate the writing has been over the last few years.

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  • Message 10

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Thursday, 14th February 2013

    Keri, do you think it's responsible for the BBC to be encouraging - almost forcing - users to sign up to commercial websites which are infamous for treating their users' personal data in a cavalier manner in order to interact with the BBC staff?

    I don't.
    'Ö'

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  • Message 11

    , in reply to message 10.

    Posted by Mustafa Grumble (U8596785) on Thursday, 14th February 2013

    I created a fake ID & throw-away email address to join FaceTwit & look at the BBC's page.

    To describe it as trivial and banal carp would be to accord it high praise.

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  • Message 12

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Thursday, 14th February 2013

    But I don't want to use Twitter *at all*, Keri, far less to follow The Archers on it - and there are lots of people who feel the same way and have been saying so, both on ML and in response to Nigel's blog posts. It is irrelevant if it is easy to sign up to because a lot of posters simply do not want to use it.

    Why is Twitter suddenly being promoted so relentlessly by the BBC? Nigel mentioned it in both his blogs, along with Facebook. And the Archer's facebook page is not a place for discussion, being primarily a PR vehicle. It's not exacly very well-used either - there is one comment about tonight's episode!

    Much better to post the query on a messageboard at the time the email ha been sent, to alert other posters to the question - in other words, dulpicating the process that works really well here, albeit with another step added. that way there can be discussion about the issue as well.

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  • Message 13

    , in reply to message 12.

    Posted by Threeblack drapedwellsofmyown (U5254306) on Friday, 15th February 2013

    Another who refuses to use twit or faceache here

    I wish to have a place to comment on theArchers whn I wish to

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  • Message 14

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 15th February 2013

    The email address for queries is

    radio4.webteam@bbc.co.uk 


    Thank you Keri

    Where and how is that address publicised to your listening public as a destination for TA queries please?

    As a fairly active BBC web and radio follower I do not recognise it.


    My impression is that BBC has decided to do away with messageboards because it simply does not want that level of interaction with listeners. You personally may differ - I was not around when you were the contact person here.

    Many of the posters here are so hypercritical that I do not blame you for wanting rid. But please be honest enough to say so.

    I am bemused by the way BBC is supporting FB and Twitter and can't help wondering if there is some sort of douceur involved.

    For R4 listeners at least emai land boards are the more natural way of communication. FB and Twit very much for Commercial Radio people and celeb wannabees.

    Maybe that is the BBC of today.

    I suspect BBC has alienated many thousands of supporters. The sort who communicate with their MPs. And influence the rate of BBC Tax.

    So sad.

    Lord Reith generator must be keeping Media City brightly lit.

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  • Message 15

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by careen (U1935190) on Friday, 15th February 2013

    Keri - please will you reply to my post about the loss of the community of expert archivists in here.

    www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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  • Message 16

    , in reply to message 15.

    Posted by Keri Davies (U2219620) on Friday, 15th February 2013

    Indeed. I've replied there as follows:

    I do take these points absolutely.

    On reflection, I think Peet's will be the most satisfactory place for this sort of community memory-sharing, rather than Facebook or Twitter - for all the reasons people have stated.

    From a personal point of view, I'm already contributing to the Playlist thread there. It works very much the same way as the one in The Bull here.

  • Message 17

    , in reply to message 14.

    Posted by Keri Davies (U2219620) on Friday, 15th February 2013

    >Where and how is that address publicised to your listening public as a destination for TA queries please?

    Via the 'Contact us' link, which is at the bottom of every BBC web page. I'll have a look at ways in which we can make the route more prominent.

  • Message 18

    , in reply to message 17.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 15th February 2013

    >Where and how is that address publicised to your listening public as a destination for TA queries please?

    Via the 'Contact us' link, which is at the bottom of every BBC web page. I'll have a look at ways in which we can make the route more prominent. 


    Thanks Keri.

    Could you please list the choices I must make to get there

    Contact us/???/???/??? etc.


    Do you recall the start of H2G2 and accessibility of information?

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  • Message 19

    , in reply to message 18.

    Posted by Keri Davies (U2219620) on Friday, 15th February 2013

    >Could you please list the choices I must make to get there
    Contact us/???/???/??? etc.


    You won't need to bother with that now that I've given you the email address.

  • Message 20

    , in reply to message 19.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Saturday, 16th February 2013

    >Could you please list the choices I must make to get there
    Contact us/???/???/??? etc.


    You won't need to bother with that now that I've given you the email address. 


    But my memory is bad. If I know I can get to it from "Contact us" it will always be there. Except I can't find my way, which is why I asked for guidance along the path - which is presumably short and simple?

    I do hope it leads to actual responses, not just long automated put-offs.

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  • Message 21

    , in reply to message 10.

    Posted by chaucergirl (U515741) on Monday, 18th February 2013

    Keri, do you think it's responsible for the BBC to be encouraging - almost forcing - users to sign up to commercial websites which are infamous for treating their users' personal data in a cavalier manner in order to interact with the BBC staff?

    I don't.
    'Ö'  
    Seconded!

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  • Message 22

    , in reply to message 21.

    Posted by conductor (U2040502) on Monday, 18th February 2013

    Thirded. I'm already signed up for both but I use Twitter for work and FB for keeping in touch with mates generally. But I don't want others forced to sign up.

    --<-@

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  • Message 23

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by chaucergirl (U515741) on Monday, 18th February 2013

    "...But I'd encourage you to use Facebook or Twitter, as that way the answers will be shared with other interested listeners..."


    Hello Keri, I know you're probably completely fed up with all of us, but the point is that many MBers don't want to use Twitbook, it's an entirely different medium to this messageboard. I don't want to use it either. I'll miss the messageboard and don't use the rest of the website as I don't like the photos.

    Thank you for your input in the past though - I know this decision is not of your doing!

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  • Message 24

    , in reply to message 23.

    Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Monday, 18th February 2013

    Chaucergirl, if you want to continue chatting about the Archers on a message board, pop over to the Mustardland set up by poster Peet in October 2005, when the great switchover to DNA software occurred. He has even created a mode called 'HowerdToo' which very closely mimics the look and functioning of the BBC board in the old Howerd2 days before 2005. A chance to wander down memory lane, with time order and everything.

    www.paranormal.org.u...

    May see you there.
    'Ö'

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  • Message 25

    , in reply to message 24.

    Posted by chaucergirl (U515741) on Monday, 18th February 2013

    Thank you Leaps, I just did! See you there!

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  • Message 26

    , in reply to message 25.

    Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Monday, 18th February 2013

    Groovy!
    'Ö'

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  • Message 27

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by Dockersdaughter3 (U14258907) on Monday, 18th February 2013

    The email address for queries is

    radio4.webteam@bbc.co.uk

    But I'd encourage you to use Facebook or Twitter, as that way the answers will be shared with other interested listeners.

    I know they aren't for everyone, but you could use Twitter simply to follow The Archers and for no other purpose if you wanted. It's very easy to sign up.

    Anyway, I hope that helps. 
    Well, actually, no, it does not help. I do not wish to Tweet or FB.

    I have sent the e mail address a query, lets see what sort of answer I get and how long it takes.

    DD3

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  • Message 28

    , in reply to message 27.

    Posted by rick_yard_withdrawn (U14573092) on Monday, 18th February 2013

    Board slightly spoilt by one or two people who feel that memory of the programme is not sufficient evidence, and must be backed up by evidence from reference books.

    Whereas the whole joy of the board is to expose where the reference books are wrong....!

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  • Message 29

    , in reply to message 9.

    Posted by Tayler Cresswell (U14232848) on Tuesday, 19th February 2013

    Thanks Keri - the reply is appreciated, although I must admit to feeling sceptical that the "radio4 webteam" will be able to answer such arcane queries as that from Barwick Green concerning "Lynda's" failing memory 

    Hi MG

    As I understand it, Archers queries emailed via this address will be dealt with by the production team. Which is almost the same as going through me here - I then contact the archivist or the producer, for example, if I can't answer a question myself.

    Tayler

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  • Message 30

    , in reply to message 29.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 19th February 2013

    Tayler do us a favour.

    Send that email address (if you can find it) a query and see what response you get.

    I know the answer but best you see for yourself.

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