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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by ladymarmalade (U14335983) on Sunday, 21st October 2012

    Please could someone explain what is allowed and what is not allowed apropos using swear words in posts? I have seen naughty words cleverly spelt ('carp', 'barsteward' etc)) and I’ve seen 't*t' and the like. All have been allowed to stand, yet I’ve been modded for using a bad word but with the middle two letters swapped over and I’m mightily confused. I don’t wish to offend anyone and I think it would be good if the rules contained examples of what is acceptable so that I don’t fall foul again.
    PS. Mods, please don’t remove this post – this is a serious question, not an attempt to be clever and get one past you!

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  • Message 2

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 21st October 2012

    If you can find logic you are doing better than I am.

    As you may know, BBC modding is subbed out to another company WHICH MAY NOT BE NAMED OR EVEN HINTED AT and I suspect its modding elves err on the side of removal.

    There is an "appeal" process - which is (deliberately?) tedious to follow. But my appeals are almost always accepted.

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  • Message 3

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    Posted by ladymarmalade (U14335983) on Sunday, 21st October 2012

    Thanks, Organoleptic Icon. It really is annoying - why can't they just tell you why they've removed your post? surely that would help you to not re-offend?
    I'll give the appeal process a go and see what happens.

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  • Message 4

    , in reply to message 3.

    Posted by Norma (U2334558) on Sunday, 21st October 2012

    A lot of the norty words can be avoided by using dots, stars, reverse letters, numbers to replace letters, et al

    They just get through the automatic modding, until a real person either catpees and a real mod reads them.

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  • Message 5

    , in reply to message 4.

    Posted by ladymarmalade (U14335983) on Sunday, 21st October 2012

    A lot of the norty words can be avoided by using dots, stars, reverse letters, numbers to replace letters, et al

    They just get through the automatic modding, until a real person either catpees and a real mod reads them.
     
    mine was a four letter word with the middle two letters swapped. I guess someone was offended. I've seen worse though. My point is I don't want to do it again!

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  • Message 6

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by Norma (U2334558) on Sunday, 21st October 2012

    The longer you are on this board the easier it gets. But you can get caught out at any time. Relax and enjoy, this board can be great fun.

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  • Message 7

    , in reply to message 6.

    Posted by Reggie Trentham (U2746099) on Sunday, 21st October 2012

    I remember a thread in the Bull some time ago where someone complained about not being able to post sh*g, or possibly sh@g whereas we are able to post shag (a seabird your honour) with impunity. I'll see what happens to this post.

    It's a bit of a blunt instrument what with the rather arbitrary 'profanity filter' and reactive moderation which if someone sufficiently sensitive is around prevents you from describing Ruairi's status at birth accurately but if they aren't lets you use the word pejoratively.

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  • Message 8

    , in reply to message 7.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Monday, 22nd October 2012

    Weggire if I catp you it will not help as you will not know which was banned!

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  • Message 9

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Monday, 22nd October 2012

    Hi ladymarmalade

    Offensive language isn't allowed on this board, and as mentioned upthread, many are caught in a filter and reviewed before being allowed or removed. Other posts are referred to the moderators if someone finds the language offensive - again these posts will be reviewed before they're passed or failed.

    The email you get if a post is removed should tell you whether it was removed for offensive language. Best to avoid it altogether!

    Hope that helps,

    Tayler

  • Message 10

    , in reply to message 9.

    Posted by ladymarmalade (U14335983) on Monday, 22nd October 2012

    I guess so, Tayler, and thanks for taking the time to reply.
    I shall try to behave from now on - but I'm keeping my beady eye on the others!!!!!

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  • Message 11

    , in reply to message 9.

    Posted by ladymarmalade (U14335983) on Monday, 22nd October 2012

    Tayler, is there anyway I can contact you away from the boards? It concerns my post - I'd like your advice, please.

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  • Message 12

    , in reply to message 11.

    Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Monday, 22nd October 2012

    Hi ladymarmalade

    My email is taylerarchershost@googlemail.com

    Tayler

  • Message 13

    , in reply to message 9.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 23rd October 2012

    The email you get if a post is removed should tell you whether it was removed for offensive language. Best to avoid it altogether!

    Hope that helps,

    Tayler 


    With respect Tayler, it does no such thing. It merges several grounds for objection into a meaningless catch-all, often leaving you unaware which words are objected t oand why

    "We reserve the right to fail comments which...

    Are considered likely to disrupt, provoke, attack or offend others Are racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or otherwise objectionable Contain swear words or other language likely to offend" 

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  • Message 14

    , in reply to message 13.

    Posted by ladymarmalade (U14335983) on Tuesday, 23rd October 2012

    The email you get if a post is removed should tell you whether it was removed for offensive language. Best to avoid it altogether!

    Hope that helps,

    Tayler 


    With respect Tayler, it does no such thing. It merges several grounds for objection into a meaningless catch-all, often leaving you unaware which words are objected t oand why

    "We reserve the right to fail comments which...

    Are considered likely to disrupt, provoke, attack or offend others Are racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or otherwise objectionable Contain swear words or other language likely to offend" 
     
    Well, that was my point, really, Organoleptic Icon. I guess mine fell under the 'Swear words' category but it's obvious that not ALL swear words are deemed offensive. I wanted advice on what is acceptable and what isn't.
    Any road up, I've had a nice email reply from Tayler and I think the only thing for me to remember is to steer clear of any norty words full stop!

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  • Message 15

    , in reply to message 13.

    Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Tuesday, 23rd October 2012

    The email you get if a post is removed should tell you whether it was removed for offensive language. Best to avoid it altogether!

    Hope that helps,

    Tayler 


    With respect Tayler, it does no such thing. It merges several grounds for objection into a meaningless catch-all, often leaving you unaware which words are objected t oand why

    "We reserve the right to fail comments which...

    Are considered likely to disrupt, provoke, attack or offend others Are racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or otherwise objectionable Contain swear words or other language likely to offend" 
     

    Hi OI

    It would be too costly to write specific responses to failed posts which detailed exactly which bits were deemed offensive. In the majority of cases it's quite obvious what was offensive within a post.

    Tayler

  • Message 16

    , in reply to message 15.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 23rd October 2012

    Tayler I'm not asking for a detailed Ratio Decidendi. Just that the automated system be made a little better.

    The "Complain about this post" function REQUIRES complainants to pick one of the categories below, so your system knows which and can simply apply the to the rejection email instead of merging them.

    And the technology to highlight the offending words is almost certainly present in your systems already.



    is defamatory or libellous

    is racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or otherwise offensive

    contains swear words or other language likely to offend

    breaks the law or condones or encourages unlawful activity such as breach of copyright or contempt of court

    advertises products or services for profit or gain

    is impersonating someone else

    includes personal information such as phone numbers, postal or email addresses

    is off-topic for the board or subject being discussed

    is not in English contains a link to an external website which breaks our Editorial Guidelines
    describes or encourage activities which could endanger the safety or well-being of others

    contains an inappropriate username

    is spam

    breaks the rules for a reason not listed above 

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  • Message 17

    , in reply to message 16.

    Posted by Frank (U5984961) on Sunday, 28th October 2012

    It is simple. Do not swear. It is not big and it is not clever. When people are reduced to saying sox instead of sex I despair. There are plenty of ways to express yourself without using vulgar and offensive words.

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