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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Dee (U3082905) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    Hi Tayler

    there seem sto be some confusion on DTA. I thought (as did others) that Will bought the GP in a pet carrier but also provided a proper cage. Ed then started to build an outdoor run for the creature.

    Others think that Will did not provide the cage and Ed built one.

    Can you shed any light on the matter please?

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  • Message 2

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    The light is fairly clear IMHO.

    When writing "fancy cage and all" in Ed's words to Fallon the writer forgot that the lack of a proper cage was part of the "Will's taunting" base of the story.

    This could be admitted and passed off as fairly trivial. Or Tayler could be asked to square the circle.

    It is, of course, possible to argue that the "carry cage" the guinea pig came in was "fancy". Just not big.

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  • Message 3

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    Posted by Dee (U3082905) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    Thing is OI, I don't think it is trivial to the SL. A decent cage would probably cost pretty much a month's grocery bills to Emma at the moment. Will would know this. The containers provided to bring pets home from a shop are usually a sturdy ventilated cardboard and couldn't, by any stretch of the imagination, be called a "cage".



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    Posted by Mustafa Grumble (U8596785) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    Dee,

    It was Monday 1st October. Will brought the gp round in a carry cage, with some pages printed off from the internet. Emma flew off the handle after Will had left, and then Ed, reading from the pages, said,

    "Oh, this might be more of a problem though ... it's got to have a decent sized run and hutch - the carry cage won't do [Emma: that's more expense, isn't it?] ... I'll knock something together myself"

    Will only provided the 'carry cage'.

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  • Message 5

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    Will only provided the 'carry cage'. 

    Which Ed described to Fallon as "all in a flash cage and everything" (8/10; 13 mins)

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  • Message 6

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    Posted by Mustafa Grumble (U8596785) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    I'm not questioning that, OI. A new plastic & wire carry cage could still be - bitterly & resentfully perhaps - described as 'flash'. But a carry cage is still only a carry cage, however flash it might be, and as recognised by Ed on day one, not suitable for the gp to live in, which is why he said he would build a proper one, with a run.

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    Hi all

    Just looked this up from the synopses (not the published ones) that I'm sent before broadcast.

    It states that Will brought the guinea pig over in a "flash cage".

    And when they go online to investigate care of the animal, they realise that it will need a large run and the expensive cage which Will has bought is too small for it to live in 

    It goes on to add that Ed would have to build a hutch as they couldn't afford to buy one.

    Hope that helps clear things up : )

    Tayler

  • Message 8

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    And when they go online to investigate care of the animal, they realise that it will need a large run and the expensive cage which Will has bought is too small for it to live in

    It goes on to add that Ed would have to build a hutch as they couldn't afford to buy one.

    Hope that helps clear things up : ) 


    It does indeed. Many thanks from us all!

    Your synopses are presumably written BEFORE the script is written/recorded, because in the actual performance they did not "go online" either - they read things Will had printed out and brought with him.

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    Your synopses are presumably written BEFORE the script is written/recorded, because in the actual performance they did not "go online" either - they read things Will had printed out and brought with him. 

    Hi OI, yes, you're right. I usually check the details as they're not always exactly the same.

    The archivist will check the scripts when I ask about storylines but I can sometimes use these synopses (when it's a recent event) to save her time : )

    Tayler

  • Message 10

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Tuesday, 16th October 2012

    A cage that Will could easily transport, as happened in the storyline, is not going to be big enough for a GP. Flash or not, the logistics of the situation make it clear the cage/carrier was for transport purposes only.

    Now, you can get hard plastic cages for transporting piggies - they have clear tops and ventilation holes and do look smart. They cost about £10. Or you can use the free cardboard carrier you get from the pet shop. But either way the cage/carrier you transport a GP in from the pet shop (or to and from the vet) is about 1/6 of the minimum size required for the piggy to live in.

    (can you tell I had a series of piggies??)

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by Dee (U3082905) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    Thanks Tayler

    If the cag ethat Will bought was expensive, I'm surprised the pet shop sold it to him rather than a bigger one that the GP could live in. Don't know if this is diliberately ambiguous so that we might think that Will thought it was suitable as it was costly and what the shop sold him (as opposed to a £10 jobbie which one would probably rightly assume wasn't up to the job of providing proper GP accommodation).

    So when George tells Will that Ed has made a new hutch, will Will be cross, assuming that W & E (just realised; WE as Mrs Simpson used to style herself & Edward - another love story that shouldn't have happened and one was already married and it ended not quite in the fairy tale they imagined) have rejected it because he (Will) bought it?

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    Surely in the real world you would ask the shop to credit it against an upgrade?

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Dee (U3082905) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    Surely in the real world you would ask the shop to credit it against an upgrade?   Good point but you would only do that if you knew the cage wasn't sufficient. I don't know the first thing about pet rodents and if I was buying one for the first time I would ask the shop for a suitable cage. If that's what happened in Will's case, he won't know about the need for something much larger until George tells him about Ed's homemade efforts.

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    I think the most likely thing is that it was a good transit cage but not a residential one.

    But would an animal welfare aware person like a gamekeeper take an animal to a plce with no suitable housing?

    I think not. Sloppy s/w.

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    Why should the shop?
    They could not take back a used cage and resell it, because of risk of infection.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    In reply to Mieteka:

    Why should the shop? 


    In order to procure a much larger sale.

    They could not take back a used cage and resell it, because of risk of infection. 

    Sez who?

    It has very briefly housed one of their own pigs.

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    Sez me, OI.

    the minute an animal goes out of a shop it could potentially pick up infection, which is why the reputable ones will not take any animal or anything back if it has been used, even momentarily. It's compounded by the fact that Will is a gamekeeper and thus regularly in contact with small mammals, which can carry all number of diseases, not to mention fleas. There's a high risk of cross-contamination, which could potentially result in all their small animal stock getting infected.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    I'm sure Will will have got his pig from Snatch Foster or someone in his Lodge

    What Grundy would have truck with a "reputable" pet shop?

    And there is Dettol.

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    There is indeed. A name that instantly evokes memories from childhood. usually of the school janitor mopping the floor after a child had a little accident.

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Wednesday, 17th October 2012

    There is indeed. A name that instantly evokes memories from childhood. usually of the school janitor mopping the floor after a child had a little accident. 

    Still good stuff.

    And in the age of carpeted bathrooms ideal to spray lightly on the floor to endure that any little splashes do not get turned into ammonia by bacterial action.

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