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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Threeblack drapedwellsofmyown (U5254306) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Sorting Willyum out so promptly and decisively

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  • Message 2

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    Posted by Bette (U2222559) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I < heart > Nic (always have).

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  • Message 3

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    Posted by Nelson_G (U13801071) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    She's one of my favourites too. The sooner this feud is ended the better.

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  • Message 4

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    Posted by Abby33 (U6428266) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Other adults shouldn't be colluding to allow Will to continue.
    If people behave like 2 year olds you need to treat them like 2 year olds.
    It is time for everyone to say 'enough is enough and it has to stop'.
    30 is as good a time as any to grow up.

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  • Message 5

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    Posted by Threeblack drapedwellsofmyown (U5254306) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I think Nic has put her foot down and wants Jawgee to see adult role models

    About time

    I bet she would sort Edday and that lazy old farmer's lung sufferer Joe out too if she got half a chance

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  • Message 6

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Why?

    Will could legitimately come back with... my brother slept with my fiance, planned to abduct my son and has shown no care at all for my feelings or harm... or hurt.

    If it was a friend and not a 'brother' (not the actions of a brother) then would anyone expect me to invite him to my birthday... or indeed to have anything further to do with him?

    I really don't get why people see it as a feud... Will hates Ed guts! With quite some justification

    They are all bafflingly daft

    Would you keep any other relationship going on anything but the most banal tolerance after that?

    'Adults' need to accept that Will might well be the only sane one

    Tolerate more or less, manage to live in the same village but FGS stop trying to get him to play happy families and airbrush the past!

    What is wrong with them?

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by My Mum is turning in her grave (U13137565) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I think Nic had an absolute cheek. Why spoil Will's birthday? Clarrie's birthday tea would have been a more appropiate time.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by ANDROMEDAKRAKEN (U14391535) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Sorting Willyum out so promptly and decisively   I'm thinking she's a bit of a control freak of late. I think she is enjoying exercising control over Will. (not that I am a Will fan, on the contrary in fact).

    And her ignorant comments about Le Bebe Speciale the other day, and refusal to see "it", were really offensive and arcane. IMO.

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Top post Rural.

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Emma slept with my brother, planned to abduct my son and has shown no care at all for my feelings or harm... or hurt.

    Ed was almost killed by me, but generously came and found me in Norfolk, told me we was family, promised George would always know I am his dad, and hugged me better. Not his fault the scripties forgot.

    So why do I give the time of day to that cow Emma, and keep harping on about my dear brother?

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I loathe Nic, always have done and this provides confirmation. She is a manipulative bully. One thing enduring loath se ome relatives at Christmas but it is Will"s birthday and he should have the people he wants there. Perhaps Will should have invited Andrew to join them on their honeymoon?

    Nic is hideous and hopefully will come to a sticky end before she spawns again

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by Threeblack drapedwellsofmyown (U5254306) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    What ignorant comments about perfect Beth?

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Except it didn't really make any difference did it? The sleeping with fiance abducting etc al was already done and the moment I was really a dad again to my child... then it was grudging and I couldn't have a moment more even when I treid to help out the unfaithful cow emma when I she looked knackered after Kiera.

    Yeah forgiving the strangling... that was Ed at his best... too bad he doesn't still resist sniping (don't get me wrong Will should too but it is a two way street that one)

    The question still stands on a day supposedly organised for pleasure for Will why on earth are Ed and Em there?

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    MMPaNiaMA, just so. What does she hope to gain by making just one more thing for Will to resent about Ed? Not content with taking away my first wife, now he is getting my new wife to dance to his tune and sympathise with him instead of me.

    Ed has also attacked Will physically at least once; he just happened not to be full of the outrage caused by your wife going off with your brother at the moment when he did it.

    And in fact, if I know anything about human nature, what *Will* thinks about that occasion when he stopped fighting his briother the moment Emma came in (lousy murderer *he* is!) is, "And a*nother* thing ... he made me so angry that I lost my temper and wanted to kill him, which means that he was controlling me and I hate him for that too."

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    It does seem unfair to Will.

    If Nic really wants to try to restore family harmony, why does it have to be on Will's birthday?

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    There were meant to be " round "Not content with taking away my first wife, now he is getting my new wife to dance to his tune and sympathise with him instead of me." I'm glad to say that my brother is not in the least like Ed!

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Threeblack drapedwellsofmyown (U5254306) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I think a BIG birthday is the right time to try and drum some semblance of civilised adult behaviour into Will

    As a new generation of Grundys grows up it is up to parents to teach civilised behaviour by example

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    The sleeping with fiance abducting etc al was already done  Yes, but it's only sex, people have affairs all the time, he needs to forgive and forget.

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Such aa go out of your way to do things that will make your spouse unhappy. If that is civilised I'm a banana.

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    The sleeping with fiance abducting etc al was already done  Yes, but it's only sex, people have affairs all the time, he needs to forgive and forget.   Why does he need to forgive and forget? It is not that much to do with sex IMO. far more to do with the complete ignoring of any of his feelings. Over the realtionship he truly believed in... over the child... repeated prolongued betrayals and anilation of him as a person with any feelings or needs at all?

    Generally that is what hurts people in affairs......... all the past becomes tainted. Nothing you were ever mattered to people you thought loved you

    Sad clumsy inarticulate boy that Will was then and still is now........

    The sticking point is the unimaginable that it was his brother that twisted the knife............

    (Will doesn't know that Ed did struggle... but most of that was nothing to do with not hurting Will. more about not being happy that Emma didn't chose him)

    Then his MUM wanted it to be airbrushed and it all to be smoothed away

    I am surprised at them really

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    It is a pity then that Ed and Emma didn't practice civilised behaviour then! Good grief.............

    Can you honestly say if it was anyone other than a sibling ...that Will should invite his best friend (ex... very quickly) who had run off with wife?

    If it is right to be able to say you are not my friend because you showed no regard for my feelings and stop being friends then even though you can never cut off your siblings you surely have a right not to have them thrust in your face along with the ex on the one day in the year that is meant to be for YOU??? (if you clebrate birthdays at all)


    ???

    Nic is being bafflingly crass and it creaks like a bad SW plot device... except this isn't the first time

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Can you honestly say if it was anyone other than a sibling ...that Will should invite his best friend (ex... very quickly) who had run off with wife?  I'd expect him to be a bit more civilised with the partner of the mother of his child, yes.

    I don't think we will agree, I think sex with someone else is unimportant once he is remarried and allegedly happy and tyring to create another Grundy, so pink hats?

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    But he is... more or less as long as he discusses issue regarding georgie with emma directly (which is pretty standard in many a relationship break up)! And if it was a partner and ex wife they wouldn't be at HIS birthday FGS.

    They might all be together for Georgies but not for Wills

    They are only there because of the unenviable circumstance that it was his BROTHER that slept with his ex wife etc etc

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by Ruralass (U14720431) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Other adults shouldn't be colluding to allow Will to continue.
    If people behave like 2 year olds you need to treat them like 2 year olds.
    It is time for everyone to say 'enough is enough and it has to stop'.
    30 is as good a time as any to grow up. 
    Please can the blessed returned Clarrie stop sighing 'Oh Wilyum.... Oh Ed...'?

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    As I said Dinah I don't think it is the sex so much... more the hurt of his feelings being completely ignored and some of the character assasination Emma did

    Plus the aggravation of the denial of paternity and the evilness of that wishful thinking/ humiliation by emma

    They tried to make Will NOTHING and it is that more than anything that is unforgivable

    Trust betrayal and betrayed indeed by your brother as well.... oh ouch!

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by maisiepusscat (U11889543) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    The fact of the matter is that Georgie is growing up in this maelstom and Nic is determined that it is going to imapct on him as little as possible. He is now fully aware of everyone's relationship to each other and Nic is trying to minmise the negative impact on the lad. It is more than likely that Georgie will want to know why his mother and stepfather/uncle has been excluded from Will's milestone birthday and while Will be more than happy that they're not there, Georgie will not understand.

    Didn't care for Nic when she first appeared but she does seem to have Georgie's best interests a heart.

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Worse now he is being told by Nic that his feelings on the matter are illegitimate... that he should just forget and play happy families

    If that is not a complete negation of his right to have feelings?

    Erm I don't know what is................

    By a new partner as well................

    I wish I wish for once Will would talk to someone and be advised on how he can get that across and balance up his relationship

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by Abby33 (U6428266) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I am surprised that anyone would be wiling to live with someone so consumed with hatred- I certainly wouldn't and I wouldn't be part of it. I am glad that Nic has had enough- she should have sorted it out before she married him. I am also surprised that parents don't put the emotional well being of their child first. It isn't good for George .

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Surely more negative to see them strained together. If it were a big informal party where coulmavoidv each other maybe but a meal for what 12..awkward.

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I was going to point out that your "more the hurt of his feelings being completely ignored" was something which continues: Nic has now jumped on the "who cares what Will thinks" bandwagon, apparently.

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Well son... your mum and I were married once but she decided she no longer wanted to be married to me and loved your uncle more and that she wasn't sure if I was your dad... or you uncle Ed. Look son I am not going to go into too much detail why she was confused on that

    But we tested and I WAS your dad

    Then your mum and Uncle Ed continued the relationship and had your sister

    However I am still really hurt by what they did. so I prefer not to have them there all the time. I don't mind a bit but sometimes I prefer not to....

    Do you think that is OK son? That some days I just get to choose people to be there who I know are my 'friends'... son?

    That is what Ed and Emmas actions set up... no getting away from it airbrush how they like............

    Georgie one day will work this out.........

    Minimise the impact on the child... ? Oh it is not Will in this one. If Ed and Emma had wanted to minimse Georgies divided loyalties and confusion in the future then not restarting their relationship for Georgies sake would have been the way to do it

    But then it wouldn't have been lurve..............

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    As I say, we can politely disagree - Will has never got on with his family, lays no store by them for most of his childhood/young adulthood, loathed his father's way of life, his best friend was Roy , why sould he not have his son and her mother and partner, regardless of who the partner is/

    Family isn't that important to some.

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by freerangepiglings (U14234154) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Whilst on the whole I hate Will and am neutral about Nic, I think she has been thoughtless and guilty of Hubris here. Much as I dislike Will, it is HIS birthday and not the occasion for forcing him and his brother to be friends for Clarrie's sake. Do it for Clarrie's birthday, or Clarrie & Eddie's anniversary by all means, but not for Will's birthday. Ed was right; he said he didn't want to ruin it. She then made out he was being selfish! He was being less selfish than Nic! Nic sounded, to me, like she wanted to resolve the feud so she could feel all proud of herself for being the amazing mediator that could bring htem together. But imo she picked a really bad opportunity for doing it. TBH I think Ed was more concErned about Will's feelings in this case than Nic was.

    And I speak as someone who generally is not concerned for Will's feeligns and on the whole has not had a problem with Nic.

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Hmm dinah not from what I remember over the years

    Will loved his mother (really patheticall loved his mum) and father although he was exasperated by his fathers scamming and rolling over his mother.............. had a great deal of time for his grandfather. Yes squabbled with his brother in his teens but before then was quite nice to him and doubtless would have got better in their twenties

    Still visits his parents regularly... helps... cares... loans money...

    It is possible that he has decided in his head that his brother is no longer his brother in most senses... but still in others

    I just don't see why he doesn't have a right to say who he wants to be at his own birthday!

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by bebopalula (U8847542) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Well I am beginning to think Nic has a hidden agenda ie.she fancies Ed. She so lacks understanding of Will's side in all this and she is his wife FGS and yet she is sympathetic towards Ed. I hope we are not leading up to another brother scenario over the same woman again. Surely they would not do that?

    Bebop

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    > I am also surprised that parents don't put the emotional well being of their child first. It isn't good for George .<

    I was cheering on Nic this evening, I loved the bit where she said he should be mature enough to cope by now. I think she may be too good for him but she seems happy enough.

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Why do Ed and Emma have to be at his birthday... and what emotional well being harm is georgie going to take from their absence?

    It is just daft!

    It is emotional blackmail IMO

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by bebopalula (U8847542) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Dinah Shore what are you talking about? Will is committed to his family apart from Ed. His only problem has been the poaching issue once he became a gamekeeper for the estate which was understandable surely.

    Bebop

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I just don't see why he doesn't have a right to say who he wants to be at his own birthday!  I think he ought to invite Andrew and Andrew's new squeeze.

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by Abby33 (U6428266) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    It may be Will's birthday, but if I was Nic I would refuse to have a family celebration with him if he was going to deliberately miss part out- I would just do a meal out for two.
    I wouldn't live my life having to join in a partner's feud or be any part of it.

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by freerangepiglings (U14234154) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    It may be Will's birthday, but if I was Nic I would refuse to have a family celebration with him if he was going to deliberately miss part out- I would just do a meal out for two.
    I wouldn't live my life having to join in a partner's feud or be any part of it. 
    She doesn't have to. She doesn't have to organise it or take charge. She could just leave it to him.

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  • Message 42

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Fortunately for Will, he is married to someone else.

    Unfortunately for Will, she is a control-freak.

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by Abby33 (U6428266) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    If you married to someone like Will you need to be a control freak! Her mistake was not to be one from the start.
    If someone's partner has feud there is no need for them to join in or felicitate it.

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  • Message 44

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Sound advice.

    WHile Nic probably has good intentions, I can't see this is the right time to try and force a reconciliation. It's Will's birthday and he should be treated as the guest of honour. instead, he's being forced into something on an occasion which is supposed to be about him.

    Putting aside all the family wrangling and whether or not this is a good idea, it is the timing that is so bad.

    It's should be about Will, and doing something nice for him. Doesn't he deserve that much consideration, just for one day in the year? This just seems like making him eat something he totally hates for his birthday tea, instead of asking him to chose the menu!

    If Will didn't have an inferiority complex beforehand, I certainly think he would be justified in developing one now, the way Nic is riding rough-shod over him. After this, he might be as well never to bother celebrating his birthday ever again.

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  • Message 45

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    Posted by Abby33 (U6428266) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    If you know someone set on a feud the only thing to do is ignore it. I wouldn't feed it by taking notice of it. If you are going to take notice of it you need to sit them down, probably with someone not involved, and come to a solution.

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Or maybe that 'feud' pre dated you and is not really any of your business unless it is actively making you uncomfortable (which it is not in this case on this planned day)? I would be seriously peeved if my partner tried to dictate my relationship (positive or negative) with any of my siblings

    I would also be a touch annoyed if I was expected to put up and shut up... just because my partner felt I should over an issue relating directly to my own relatives

    I cannot see why Nic thinks this is reasonable

    Indeed given the history I think she is totally oblivious to Wills feelings.

    All she has to do is leave him alone on this... Ed doesn't need to be there... let alone Emma! (she is his ex FGS... they should be together for Georgies ocassions but everything else?)

    As I said baffling

    Realistically will will go along with her becasue inspite of everything he is a complete doormat but it leaves a nasty taste

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  • Message 47

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    Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    Nic is a bully. how dare she claim to be mature and take the moral high ground. I suppose Will should be grateful she only hits people smaller and weaker than herself. And I agree she fancies Ed.

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  • Message 48

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    If it wasn't bullying to tell Ed that he was being selfish when he very properly didn't think he ought to spoil Will's day for him, what was it? It isn't just Will she expects to dance to the tune she plays, is it.

    What *is* it about The Archers and women who are bullies? Pat, and Helen, and Amy, and Vicky, and Emma, and now Nic....

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  • Message 49

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I hated Nic's triumphant 'Yes'! a the end of the episode.
    Nic may want Will to be healed. Her motives may be sincere, she may think he will be happier with a reconcilliation, although I think she now sees this as a matter of wills. Will's will?

    I think the loving thing to do would to recognise Will's hurt and just
    'let it lie'. If Will ever reaches the stage where he realises he may feel better if reconciled with Ed, he can bring it about himself.

    We have- ex spouses at family dos and their new partners without a problem, although I felt for my hsband when his ex-wife's second husband was around. However, her second husband has now also been jettisoned by her and we ahve to put up with her latest partner. that's a little easier as he was not complicit with her breakup from my husband. I avoided family dos where the women my husbands left me for would be attending. However, both of those have now also moved on.

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  • Message 50

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Wednesday, 6th February 2013

    I certainly wouldn't want the women my husbands left me for at my birthday celebrations.

    If ,and when ,my daughter marries, I shall have to tolerate her father's wife. However, she is not the woman he left me for.

    We get around don't we?

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