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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Emily Bronte (U15430416) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Given the SW's penchant for telegraphing a story - is Willyum being set up for a fall?

    Smug now, dismissive of dire warnings from Eddie, complacent that HE (the great Wiilyum) could never get hiimself into same position as Ed finds himself.....

    Please, Please,Please!!!

    What dire events could befall him?

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Any of the folowing - or a combination.

    Brian contracts the shoot as a) not getting much business due to economic recession and b) he's getting on a bit now and it's too much work. Also fits in with Jenny doing all the catering, as she is no spring chicken. So Will expereiences a drop in income.

    Brenda and Tom get a mortgage and buy their own place. Will struggles to find another tenant who can afford to pay the rent. Plenty of people wanting to buy though.

    After he and nick struggle to conceive, they go for tests. It turns out that Will is infertile, which puts the whole paternity test for George into doubt. Ed insists it is redone, and it turns out there was a huge mistake and that Ed is really George's father after all.

    As Will sinks further into depression and disconnects with reality, his doctor is concerned about his firearms licence - which thus endangers his job.

    Nic realises that Will is never going to move on and so she moves out.

    Clarrie and Joe both echo what Eddie has already said, completing Will's sense of isolation.

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    Posted by Dee (U3082905) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Or is William being set up as a replacement fo Neil & Susan - from humble beginnings to a relatively comfortable life (although t ehy both have to work hard for it) nice house etc while Ed & Em are the new Eddie & Clarrie.

    I really harbour a fantasy that the donor who made Henry possible is someone like Ed. He could have made is donation for a bit of quick & easy cash, lied about hos qulifications and we are lead to beleive he is good looking at has a good physique so any description might look favourable.

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    Posted by cowpatty (U14650862) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Given the SW's penchant for telegraphing a story - is Willyum being set up for a fall?

    Smug now, dismissive of dire warnings from Eddie, complacent that HE (the great Wiilyum) could never get hiimself into same position as Ed finds himself.....

    Please, Please,Please!!!

    What dire events could befall him?

     
    He could choke on having to eat his words???



    cp

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    I would love for the sperm donor to be Jazzer!!!!

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    Posted by Dee (U3082905) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    I would love for the sperm donor to be Jazzer!!!!  Jazzer - perfect!

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    Posted by barwick_green (U2668006) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    I would love for the sperm donor to be Jazzer!!!!  Gary Horrobin.........?

    How else does the 'missing link', who is on benefits, pay for his car? Maybe by regular visits to the sperm bank......?

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Surely they have to be storing up the "who is Henry's father" storyline for sometime in the future?

    Trying to think who else would be a suitably unsuitable candidate? So many candidates...

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    Posted by SredniVashtar07 (U9755761) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Given the SW's penchant for telegraphing a story - is Willyum being set up for a fall?

    Smug now, dismissive of dire warnings from Eddie, complacent that HE (the great Wiilyum) could never get hiimself into same position as Ed finds himself.....

    Please, Please,Please!!!

    What dire events could befall him?

     
    My God, the nasty little tripe-hound was on form last night !

    Can he get any more hateful, smug or self satisfied ?

    A good long spell on the dole follwed by his house burning down might level his Karma - but I doubt it.

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    Posted by cowpatty (U14650862) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Any of the folowing - or a combination.

    Brian contracts the shoot as a) not getting much business due to economic recession and b) he's getting on a bit now and it's too much work. Also fits in with Jenny doing all the catering, as she is no spring chicken. So Will expereiences a drop in income.

    Brenda and Tom get a mortgage and buy their own place. Will struggles to find another tenant who can afford to pay the rent. Plenty of people wanting to buy though.

    After he and nick struggle to conceive, they go for tests. It turns out that Will is infertile, which puts the whole paternity test for George into doubt. Ed insists it is redone, and it turns out there was a huge mistake and that Ed is really George's father after all.

    As Will sinks further into depression and disconnects with reality, his doctor is concerned about his firearms licence - which thus endangers his job.

    Nic realises that Will is never going to move on and so she moves out.

    Clarrie and Joe both echo what Eddie has already said, completing Will's sense of isolation.

     
    Yowser! Any or preferably all please!

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    Posted by Dee (U3082905) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Surely they have to be storing up the "who is Henry's father" storyline for sometime in the future?

    Trying to think who else would be a suitably unsuitable candidate? So many candidates... 
    At one time I thought of Ian - he had that "I have always wanted tobe a dad" episode with mad Mags & it isn't that implausable that he made a "donation" so that he could at least have a chance of being a father.

    I suppose the least suitable person would be Tom.

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    Posted by SredniVashtar07 (U9755761) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Surely they have to be storing up the "who is Henry's father" storyline for sometime in the future?

    Trying to think who else would be a suitably unsuitable candidate? So many candidates... 
    At one time I thought of Ian - he had that "I have always wanted tobe a dad" episode with mad Mags & it isn't that implausable that he made a "donation" so that he could at least have a chance of being a father.

    I suppose the least suitable person would be Tom. 
    ......or Jazzer.

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    A plague on both his houses??

    Or how about the birds come down with some avian disease and have to be captured and then euthanised, and Brian decides the shoot isn't worth it.

    Or people cancel bookings because of the recent shootings in the US? Plus a protest from the local Animal Rights folk (the ones who were protesting about the mega dairy) and Brian realises it is more trouble than it is worth?

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    I suppose the least suitable person would be Tom.  Put Tom and Ed on a level, being uncle and father, wouldn't it.


    Oh, no, Ed's NOT Gorge's pa.

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    Posted by Pat_Clifton (U14447939) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Isn't the shoot a BL enterprise rather than Home Farm? Brian is finally deposed as chairman of BL and his replacement isn't in to huntin' shootin' and fishin' and gets rid of the shoot. Will thus loses both house and job. He is unable to claim benefits because he has capital (i.e 1 the Green), but can't sell it in the current climate, especially with sitting tennants. He is therefore forced to live off the rent from it and rent a smaller place for his family: a grotty place on Meadow Rise? The flat above the shop? Somewhere more lowly than Rickyard anyway. George loudly proclaims he prefers living at nanna's to Will's new place.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Buntysdaughter (U7084475) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Mieteka, you are a star !

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Oh, thank you!!

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by BanquetBangersBaroness (U15332198) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Blimey, Emily - you've hit the nail on the head!

    Things have gone pretty OK for Willyerm and not always due to darned hard work - quite a bit of good luck there, just as Ed has been unlucky enough to be clobbered by the recession plus the whopping bill for the electrics to be fixed.

    It's high time Will's crowing over Ed came back to bite him - hard!

    2013 should surely be the year when Will get's a long overdue lesson in humility.............

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by Emily Bronte (U15430416) on Tuesday, 18th December 2012

    Blimey, Emily - you've hit the nail on the head!

    Things have gone pretty OK for Willyerm and not always due to darned hard work - quite a bit of good luck there, just as Ed has been unlucky enough to be clobbered by the recession plus the whopping bill for the electrics to be fixed.

    It's high time Will's crowing over Ed came back to bite him - hard!

    2013 should surely be the year when Will get's a long overdue lesson in humility............. 

    BBB - I am SO hoping that it happens and that Santa brings it for Xmas. He was truly and unspeakably vile last night!

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    I do hope so I find him unbearably smug and stupid.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    I like it, Pat.

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by BVFL33 (U14967272) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    Any of the folowing - or a combination.

    Brian contracts the shoot as a) not getting much business due to economic recession and b) he's getting on a bit now and it's too much work. Also fits in with Jenny doing all the catering, as she is no spring chicken. So Will expereiences a drop in income.

    Brenda and Tom get a mortgage and buy their own place. Will struggles to find another tenant who can afford to pay the rent. Plenty of people wanting to buy though.

    After he and nick struggle to conceive, they go for tests. It turns out that Will is infertile, which puts the whole paternity test for George into doubt. Ed insists it is redone, and it turns out there was a huge mistake and that Ed is really George's father after all.

    As Will sinks further into depression and disconnects with reality, his doctor is concerned about his firearms licence - which thus endangers his job.

    Nic realises that Will is never going to move on and so she moves out.

    Clarrie and Joe both echo what Eddie has already said, completing Will's sense of isolation.

     
    Oh I do s hope you are right ...the smug faced arr arr moi son man is really long over due .. Have you written this to the SW's If not please do

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    Don't you think Will suffered enough by losing his wife and child? He is still suffering by not being able to live with his child. Karma has surely already visited him for marrying someone who did not love him.

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    Unless George looks like his Mum, as is possible, as boys tend to resemble their mothers, I would think it was now possible to see which brother is his Dad. Although of course, genes can hop about and someone can resemble a family member other than their parent.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    thank you!

    The SW team are more than welcome to use any or all of these ideas. All I ask in return is to get to rearrange those bottles of oil and vinegar in Ambridge Organics, because Helen is being a little derelict in her duties.

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by cowpatty (U14650862) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    Don't you think Will suffered enough by losing his wife and child? He is still suffering by not being able to live with his child. Karma has surely already visited him for marrying someone who did not love him.  Lots of people go through trauma.. sometimes not as a result of their own actions. It is no excuse to be throughly obnoxious, smug and to relish in the misfortune of another, even if it is believed that the person is responsible for the trauma. If he wants to know who is really to blame he should try looking in the mirror....

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    He is not to blame for Emma leaving him anyway. Emma found many excuses to blame will but truthfully she had slept with his brother before she married him.........

    There is kind of no excuse

    As to the smug. well he doesn't wish his brother to succeed in life. After what went down............... why should he?

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by cowpatty (U14650862) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    He is not to blame for Emma leaving him anyway. Emma found many excuses to blame will but truthfully she had slept with his brother before she married him.........

    There is kind of no excuse

    As to the smug. well he doesn't wish his brother to succeed in life. After what went down............... why should he? 
    Because he is his brother... because he tried to kill Ed and Ed forgave him (by not pressing charges) because his behaviour sets a very bad example to his son, because his mother would like him to try and get on with his brother... how many reasons do you want? He already kept all the inheritance money for himself He is just a selfish, bitter, vindictive man and it will catch up with him.....

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by ruralsnowflakebliss (U8131914) on Wednesday, 19th December 2012

    And Ed was really Wills brother when he slept with his fiancee on her hen night and then colluded in the attempted abduction of his son???

    Come on cow patty..........

    These both happened well before the strangling incident

    Ed was not that much of a brother (and BTW I do give Ed full credit for being torn afterwards when Emma went ahead and married Will......... but not much more than that)

    Seriously i take it you don't like will but Ed is no angel at all either.

    I am ambivilent but more on Wills side becasue Ed was always more in control

    Would you after all that with a sibling share? Not easy to do....

    I do think ML must be full of saints becasue I cannot imagine being anything that desparately hurt and angry if I had to watch my sister become my childs step parent.. especially after such a public and prolongued humiliating break up in a small area....

    Yes I am baffled why Will having a rant in the company of his dad is beyond the pale.

    He hasn't actually done anything to harm Ed for a long time now.....

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by MrsMiggins (U13648123) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    I don't understand why it is always Will's behaviour that is criticised on the boards. If Will is expected to move on, then why isn't Ed expected to do the same. On all the occasions that they have met in the last couple of years, Ed's behaviour has been just as churlish as Will's, more so on some occasions.

    Since Ed apparently has everything he wanted, why can't he be the big man and make the first move. Would it kill him to occasionally admit that Will is George's Dad and that for George's sake it would be wonderful if they could all be together and civil sometimes. If Will was invited in for a cup of tea when he brings George home for example, so George could show him his room, toys etc. I think Will would be happy to do this for George's sake and he seems to have a reasonable relationship with Emma. Instead Ed talks to him like he is the s**t off his shoe and in front of George too. Why doesn't Eddie take Ed aside and tell him a few home truths, why must it always be Will that has to give in, kow tow, move on, while Ed remains goading and ungracious.

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    Posted by GoneAwayForGood (U14551283) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    I don't understand why it is always Will's behaviour that is criticised on the boards. If Will is expected to move on, then why isn't Ed expected to do the same. On all the occasions that they have met in the last couple of years, Ed's behaviour has been just as churlish as Will's, more so on some occasions.

    Since Ed apparently has everything he wanted, why can't he be the big man and make the first move. Would it kill him to occasionally admit that Will is George's Dad and that for George's sake it would be wonderful if they could all be together and civil sometimes. If Will was invited in for a cup of tea when he brings George home for example, so George could show him his room, toys etc. I think Will would be happy to do this for George's sake and he seems to have a reasonable relationship with Emma. Instead Ed talks to him like he is the s**t off his shoe and in front of George too. Why doesn't Eddie take Ed aside and tell him a few home truths, why must it always be Will that has to give in, kow tow, move on, while Ed remains goading and ungracious. 
    Hear, hear, Mrs. M. Excellent post.

    Thora

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    I don't understand why it is always Will's behaviour that is criticised on the boards. If Will is expected to move on, then why isn't Ed expected to do the same. On all the occasions that they have met in the last couple of years, Ed's behaviour has been just as churlish as Will's, more so on some occasions.

    Since Ed apparently has everything he wanted, why can't he be the big man and make the first move. Would it kill him to occasionally admit that Will is George's Dad and that for George's sake it would be wonderful if they could all be together and civil sometimes. If Will was invited in for a cup of tea when he brings George home for example, so George could show him his room, toys etc. I think Will would be happy to do this for George's sake and he seems to have a reasonable relationship with Emma. Instead Ed talks to him like he is the s**t off his shoe and in front of George too. Why doesn't Eddie take Ed aside and tell him a few home truths, why must it always be Will that has to give in, kow tow, move on, while Ed remains goading and ungracious. 
    Hear, hear, Mrs. M. Excellent post.

    Thora 
    Seconded.

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    Since Ed apparently has everything he wanted, why can't he be the big man and make the first move.  

    If Ed was the generous and big hearted man that some on here think, and if he genuinely wanted not to continue the feud, he would have taken the opportunity when Will and Nic got engaged to extend an olive branch, to go and congratulate him, to say he was glad things were working out, sorry for what happened in the past, etc etc.

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    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    >If Ed was the generous and big hearted man that some on here think, and if he genuinely wanted not to continue the feud, he would have taken the opportunity when Will and Nic got engaged to extend an olive branch, to go and congratulate him, to say he was glad things were working out, sorry for what happened in the past, etc etc.<

    I don't think anyone has said that Ed is generous and big hearted, have they? I think you're only saying that as an Aunt Sally to knock down.

    The point about Ed is that he has tried to apologise at least three times over the years and always been knocked either verbally or physically or both. Will has rebuffed him continually and the last time Ed tried to make small talk about Jawge Will tried to kill him.

    Ed forgave him but Will hasn't forgiven Ed. He has snarled away at Ed for years and Ed, not being a saint as you seem to expect him to be, has reacted in a perfectly human way by trying to avoid him. Maybe you think that kicking a dog is a good way to get its sympathy and loyalty but Ed isn't a dog and it's perfectly rational of him to react against Will's hatred with his low level rebellion. Not pretty but rational as he knows he'll never get anywhere with Will.

    This is a very finely balanced SL and there is no wholly good side and wholly bad side. Both brothers have behaved badly at times but the instigator of all the troubles has been Emma. I'm not blaming her for everything either - she was stupid, shallow and vain but she was very young. What she and Ed have going for them is that they've learned from what happened and matured. Will has allowed himself to be stuck in his hatred and really the only person he's harming is himself.

    No one can make things better for him in the way you think they should because it's all down to him now and you can go on berating Ed for as long as you like but that's just displacement. You might as well rail at the rain for making you wet. Sensible people either stay indoors or put on a raincoat and use an umbrella. Time for Will to adapt.

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    Not taking sides here at all - but when you separate from someone often the very last thing you want is for them to come into *your* house. it becomes an ex-partner free territory, if that makes sense. They are out of your life and so you don't want them to intrude into your new life. That's why a lot of divorced couples do the "swap over" of children after visits in neutral territory. THe last thing you want is your ex sitting in your living room, looking at all your things, particularly if you have no access to their home - so that their privacy remains intact.

    But of course if George should be able to invite Will in to see his bedroom, then he should also be allowed to invite Emma in to see his room at Will's house (can't remember what it is called).

    WHile it would be nice to think that separated couples can buty the hatchet (somewhere other than in the skull) and have a civilised cuppa together, perhaps that is pushing things a little far and even the most unobservant child would sense the underlying hostility? better just to make encounters brief and centred around the child.

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    Once again, I find myself agreeing with each one of your points, old cath.

    The main thing here is that there are faults on both sides, stemming from a single cause (Emma).

    I've a good deal of sympathy for Will's situation - but not for the way he acts, which only makes things worse. He needs to stand back and look at his life and then take ownership of it and try to build on the positive aspects (e.g. that Ed and Emma genuinely love George and do their very best for him. Much better to know that George has a "step" parent who loves him than one who is either indifferent to him or actively dislikes him, as often occurs.

    While Will was the victim, one of his problems is that he has cast himself in the role of the victim, along with the assumption that he is helpless to change anything. That is a major contributor to his feelings of helplessness and the anger they engender.

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    I have seen the adjective "generous" used to describe Ed several times.. Maybe not on this particular thread but definitely else thread. And the idea that Ed has forgiven Will is ridiculous when you consider that a few weeks ago he was snarling through gritted teeth that George wasn't spending a minute more with George than "we" agreed (it was nothing whatsoever to do with him, the agreement was between Will and Emma).

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    And the idea that Ed has forgiven Will is ridiculous  Not when you consider he *was* forgiving until the scripties did a volte face.

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    One can have a 'civilised' relationship with an ex. OH and I recently stayed overnight with his ex-wife and partner and we are spending Christmas Day together with one of his sons. My exes have certainly been in my home! We have all got together at weddings, birthdays etc. We do it for the children but get on quite well independently from that. Differences are that the 'new' partners were not involved in the break-up and no-one is a close relative!
    IMO people often have relationships with the same sort of people and you can often find you will have things in common with the new partner of an ex.

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    >And the idea that Ed has forgiven Will is ridiculous when you consider that a few weeks ago he was snarling through gritted teeth that George wasn't spending a minute more with George than "we" agreed<

    I think you'll find that the context of comments about Ed's generosity and forgiveness is in the fact that Will nearly killed him. Ed has forgiven Will for that and I'd say that was very generous - I wouldn't have forgiven anyone who tried to kill me; I'd have called the police and pressed a criminal charge against the person who assaulted me. And I've no doubt that you too would have said that the police should have been involved if it had been Ed trying to kill Will.

    But Will has continued to moan and slag off Ed. And Ed has responded by avoiding Will as much as he can. Will's told him plenty of times that he's a loser. At the moment he thinks he is too but slowly but surely he will pull out of that.

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    Well cath, it seems there will always be stalemate.

    There are ways of 'killing' parts of people other than trying to deprive them of oxygen!

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  • Message 42

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    Don't you think Will suffered enough by losing his wife and child?  People are not possessions that you lose down the back of the sofa. And people suffer, and recover. No "enough" about it.

    marrying someone who did not love him.  She did love him at the time ("I do love you, but I don't love YOU, the way you love ME") but she also loved Absent Edwad.

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by cowpatty (U14650862) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    I don't understand why it is always Will's behaviour that is criticised on the boards. If Will is expected to move on, then why isn't Ed expected to do the same. On all the occasions that they have met in the last couple of years, Ed's behaviour has been just as churlish as Will's, more so on some occasions.

    Since Ed apparently has everything he wanted, why can't he be the big man and make the first move. Would it kill him to occasionally admit that Will is George's Dad and that for George's sake it would be wonderful if they could all be together and civil sometimes. If Will was invited in for a cup of tea when he brings George home for example, so George could show him his room, toys etc. I think Will would be happy to do this for George's sake and he seems to have a reasonable relationship with Emma. Instead Ed talks to him like he is the s**t off his shoe and in front of George too. Why doesn't Eddie take Ed aside and tell him a few home truths, why must it always be Will that has to give in, kow tow, move on, while Ed remains goading and ungracious. 
    Do you honestly think that if Jake and Mia's father Andrew had tried to strangle Will that Will would subsequently ask him in for tea when he visits his kids?? Come off it. Will needs to grow up.

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    Come to think, Will did threaten to go round and "sort him out" when Andrew was late with handing over the maintenance.

    William has problems with anger management, I suppose.

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    Posted by Mieteka (U14938651) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    I think that has been very clearly signalled indeed.
    Which is worrying when you consider that Nic has stood up to him and sided with Ed and Emma. It is easy to see how Will could construe this as another "betrayal" and if it happens again, he could lose his temper very badly.

    The SWs have done a great job of giving a sustained portrayal of a man who is teetering on the edge. It could go either way now.

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by kissedbough (U14269224) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    I must have missed the episode where he lost his wife and child, I thought they were living in Ambridge and George spent one night a week (now two) and every other weekend with Will????????????? When did he lose them?

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  • Message 47

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    Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    Are you really saying that someone whose wife and child leaves them for someone else still has their wife and child?

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    Posted by kissedbough (U14269224) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    Not sure what you mean by "have". They bno longer live with him, but Jawgee is still his son, he still has a relationship with him, the kid is under no ilusion that Will is his dad, they see each other often. If "have" means own, well he didn't "have" either of them in the first place.

    If Em or Jawgee refused to see or speak to Will ever again, I suppose you could say he "lost" them as in lost contact, no longer has them in his life, but none of this is the case, Will's first partner/wife left and now he has another one. Em took Jawgee to live with her, with Will's agreement, he sees Jawgee regularly, he now "has" Jawgee, Nic, Jake and Mia in his life - quids in!! He gave Jawgee's room to Jake and wants to have a baby with Nic, he is a sick bunny who is too blind to see how lucky he is.

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  • Message 49

    , in reply to message 48.

    Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    I am married. In that sense I have a husband. That is not the same as owning a husband, but I think it safe to say that if he left me for someone else I would then no longer have a husband.

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  • Message 50

    , in reply to message 5.

    Posted by dickie (U2267358) on Thursday, 20th December 2012

    I would love for the sperm donor to be Jazzer!!!!  How about Tom?

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