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  • Message 51

    , in reply to message 50.

    Posted by Margaret (U14756851) on Wednesday, 7th November 2012

    Just tagging on. I heard this episode this afternoon and I thought Nic was a bit out of line. How does she know about the conversation to feel so confident about what should be done - she was not there which means she has heard a second hand account - Ed's account probably.

    Will has Ed and Emma going at him and now Nic which I think is a bit much. A poster has said upthread that Nic probably fancies Ed - please no (although I can see it as a real possibility because Ed has always hankered after what Will has) I really think Will has had enough betrayal in his life.

    Bebop  
    I think Will might just be so stupid as to believe himself the victor of the argument and be pleased to trump the "oh yes, I then I said...."

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  • Message 52

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 7th November 2012

    This is not the first time Nic has taken Will to task on the basis of something about which she was in ignorance.

    It's all very well that she has pleased a lot of people here by having a go at Will, but some of it wasn't justified, and for me that spoils the effect of the whole thing, just a little. If she had been angry on the grounds of being fed up for almost any other reason than objecting to a conversation she had not heard it would have been so great, and as it is the pleasure in it is somewhat spoiled for me.

    Clumsy scripting, really. A shame.

    "Look, I don't *care* what he said to you or you said to him, you're as bad as each other and the person you ought to be worrying about is George!" would have been a far better line of attack, and a lot more satisfying as far as I am concerned, than this "you're in the wrong and you ought to apologise to Ed" stuff. She doesn't need to be cross for the *wrong* reasons: she could perfectly well be cross for the right ones.

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  • Message 53

    , in reply to message 52.

    Posted by bebopalula (U8847542) on Wednesday, 7th November 2012

    Exactly CG and I am uncomfortable with the way this SL could potentially go.Nic was never a push over and he was kindness personified to her. Now she has it all on a plate she is throwing her weight around. As for her comment about the house on the green she benefits from all of this and Will must be prepared for if/ when he is no longer employed by Brian because the cottage goes with the job. It is also extremely sexist implying that only a woman can sort out this child access problem. I would be more impressed if Will and Em had a proper conversation - as they have had in the past.

    Bebop

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  • Message 54

    , in reply to message 24.

    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Wednesday, 7th November 2012

    > He's had an ambition since he was young and worked for it steadily, despite the mocking of his father.<

    He was going off the rails good and proper until George stepped in when Will was 14 or 15 or so. He was very lucky that his mentor came along then. Ed's mentor came along when Ed was older, maybe 20 or 21, so he had his stupid feckless father for a role model for a lot longer. But having been saved at last, Ed's worked extremely hard too. You couldn't put a piece of paper between them.

    Will however had the additional fortune literally of inheriting £120k. Sheer luck, no work involved of any degree, and at last someone has pointed this out to Will. He's a surly so and so and I don't know why Nic puts up with him but good luck to her.

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  • Message 55

    , in reply to message 54.

    Posted by bebopalula (U8847542) on Wednesday, 7th November 2012

    Still listening to Fantasy Archers I see.

    cheers

    Bebop

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  • Message 56

    , in reply to message 55.

    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Wednesday, 7th November 2012

    Glad you've confirmed that Bebop, I thought as much. So what on earth are you doing in DTA?

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  • Message 57

    , in reply to message 56.

    Posted by bebopalula (U8847542) on Wednesday, 7th November 2012

    What an earth areyou doing in DTA?


    Will needs my support!

    Bebop

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  • Message 58

    , in reply to message 52.

    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    I think she has him perfectly sussed and must be heartily sick of his behaviour. I bet he does very little of the extra childcare involved in having George there an extra day.

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  • Message 59

    , in reply to message 46.

    Posted by annie_ms (U2307560) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    "shirrick"

    Excellent word - haven't heard it before, what's the origin? Must try and use it ...

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  • Message 60

    , in reply to message 58.

    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Its not even going to be a day is it Anna, unless its at the weekend? Perhaps this was spelt out and I missed it, In which case I agree, its Nic making the commitment, not Will, who I assume spends most of the weekend gamekeeping.

    But if its a week night I am a bit baffled as to how much of a money saving arrangement this is for Emma and Ed. How much does this boy eat for goodness sake, that providing him with one less evening meal and one breakfast will make a measurable difference to their finances.

    If on the other hand Emma is finding it hard to cope with caring for two children because she is so stressed at the moment then that's a different issue and the one that needs addressing because although Nic does seem to understand that having George more will help Emma in ways other than financial, I don't think Will realises this yet and if he cottons on to it , he will be using it as a reason for George to come to him for longer periods, if not permanently.

    I'm not saying that would be a bad arrangement if all concerned, including George, are happy with it, but framing this one night a week extra as being of /financial/ help to E and E just seems weird to me, ,

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  • Message 61

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Agreed Polly. As usual the sws don't really think out the story properly. For example if Nic becomes pregnant will he back with Em and Ed full time or will she be expected to cope with four children? I expect Will would expect the latter but she might want the former and if that happened how will George feel about being passed from pillar to post?

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  • Message 62

    , in reply to message 54.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    > He's had an ambition since he was young and worked for it steadily, despite the mocking of his father.<

    He was going off the rails good and proper until George stepped in when Will was 14 or 15 or so. He was very lucky that his mentor came along then. Ed's mentor came along when Ed was older, maybe 20 or 21, so he had his stupid feckless father for a role model for a lot longer. But having been saved at last, Ed's worked extremely hard too. You couldn't put a piece of paper between them.

    Will however had the additional fortune literally of inheriting £120k. Sheer luck, no work involved of any degree, and at last someone has pointed this out to Will. He's a surly so and so and I don't know why Nic puts up with him but good luck to her. 
    Again, I'm so glad that the history of TAQ as it was comes to clarify both men.

    Thanks, old cath.

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  • Message 63

    , in reply to message 54.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    > He's had an ambition since he was young and worked for it steadily, despite the mocking of his father.<

    He was going off the rails good and proper until George stepped in when Will was 14 or 15 or so. He was very lucky that his mentor came along then. Ed's mentor came along when Ed was older, maybe 20 or 21, so he had his stupid feckless father for a role model for a lot longer. But having been saved at last, Ed's worked extremely hard too. You couldn't put a piece of paper between them.

    Will however had the additional fortune literally of inheriting £120k. Sheer luck, no work involved of any degree, and at last someone has pointed this out to Will. He's a surly so and so and I don't know why Nic puts up with him but good luck to her. 
    Should have read:

    "Again, I'm so glad that the history of TA as it was comes to clarify both men.

    Thanks, old cath."


    Doh!

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  • Message 64

    , in reply to message 61.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    They started hinting at Nic/Will progeny just about when VW went walkabout, and now she's back, that seems to have changed. Maybe I'm reading the signs incorrectly.


    Seeing how intense and possessive Will is with 'his' things, I wonder of Nic might have second thoughts about a new sprog??

    Three + Georgie all under the age of ten.....Hmm.

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  • Message 65

    , in reply to message 52.

    Posted by ljhhuk (U14702255) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Well, if life was scripted for us all, none of us would say the wrong thing would we? The scriptwriters are portraying Nic as a human being - warts and all. She makes mistakes!! Duh!

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  • Message 66

    , in reply to message 52.

    Posted by ljhhuk (U14702255) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    If life was scripted, non of us would ever say the wrong thing. The scriptwriters are portraying Nic as a human being who makes mistakes and sometimes says things she might regret later.

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  • Message 67

    , in reply to message 54.

    Posted by Redbookish (U1335018) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    He was going off the rails good and proper until George stepped in when Will was 14 or 15 or so. 

    Well, I'd say 14 or 15 is young, and particularly a pretty young age at which to develop a clear sense of ambition and purpose.

    OK, Ed didn't have that until he was a good few years older, but is that somehow Will's 'fault'? They're both burdened by an unhelpful role model of a father (and a grandfather, really) and presumably, Ed had teachers at school who could see whatever spark he had that posters here tell us they hear?

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  • Message 68

    , in reply to message 29.

    Posted by bubbleyum (U6530079) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Not sure how them having George a bit more will help ed and em financially though. I doubt they will see it either.

     


    If Ed and Emma are having difficulty in giving George a decent meal, then this is one meal that Emma won't have to provide for him. Last week, George unexpectedly came home for his tea, and Emma had nothing substantial for him to eat.

    However, also, from Nic's point of view, I think it might be convenient having a playmate for Jake who I think is a similar age to George.

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  • Message 69

    , in reply to message 67.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Ed didn't want to be at school, and I don't suppose the teachers had any more chance to see anything but a sullen nuisance in him than in Will.

    The difference between them at fifteen was that Will had something that he wanted to do when he left school and Ed had nothing that he wanted to do when he left school except twocking and thieving and generally being a troublemaker. The idea of being in a band was not serious enough to count as an ambition: he fell into that only because two of his mates (Fallon and Jazzer) were musical, and nor did he stick to it. He was a waster and a drifter for the years between sixteen and twenty, which four years of life Will had spent learning how to do a hard job of work and do it pretty well. The only qualification Ed got in his life was an "Enhanced Thinking Skills" certificate which he had no option about: taking the course was part of his sentence for the stealing from garages he was caught doing when he was nineteen.

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  • Message 70

    , in reply to message 14.

    Posted by judypudy1966 (U15339792) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    I got the feeling that Nic had snapped and realised she was the only person thinking and behaving like a responsible adult in the whole household.   here here!!nic is the only one with any sense here.there are 4 adults and 3 children,2 of the adults are married and the other 2 live with each other;yet sometimes it feels as tho they are all playing at being adults!especially emma.did she have a plastic house when she was a girl?!
    she doesnt seem to be able to manage a sentence without moaning.
    nic knows what its like with kids and having no money.
    and another thing...why did emma and ed have another baby anyway?what about waiting until you have a bit of money behind you?oh hang,on,thats just a crazy idea.we all have a right to have a baby..going on a bit here sorry
    well done nic!!

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  • Message 71

    , in reply to message 67.

    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    No of course it wasn't Will's fault that luck fell into his lap bit not Ed's until much later. But even then he looked down on his brother and never helped him. He has always been quick to crow and condemn. Nasty piece of work Will who doesn't count his blessings unless prompted but nurses his grievances closely.

    Wouldn't want to be married to him no matter what security he could bring to a marriage.

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  • Message 72

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by SredniVashtar07 (U9755761) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    let there be no more nonsense on here about Nic being scared of Will, having to walk on eggshells around him etc etc. She proved conclusively tonight that she isn't.  Quite right - how long before Will dumps her for a more submissive model ?

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  • Message 73

    , in reply to message 61.

    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Excellent points Anna. But as Nic seems to be turning into font of all wisdom and mother earth, no doubt she will take in her stride having four children to care for, including a new born baby. Nic seems to be being developed into The Good Mother in stark contrast with Emma's hit and miss (not physically) attempts at it

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  • Message 74

    , in reply to message 71.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Will got on with his learning to be a game-keeper, while Ed was at school. That was the time at which things went badly wrong between them.

    Ed was the one who joined in with Eddie and Joe in trying to make Will into the catspaw for their poaching, and later Ed was frequently on Will's case teasing and taunting and doing things like (rather later, but part of the pattern) allowing Will to think that the pheasants he cooked for the dinner with Caroline and Oliver were poached rather than a present from Brian. Trying to upset Will by pretending with Beth that they were poachers and making loud noise round his house to disturb him was part of a long pattern, not a one-off on Ed's part.

    Asa result, Will had less and less time or sympathy for the brother who not only spent time and effort on upsetting him, but also worried their mother and was twocking and stealing and breaking windows and all the other stuff Ed was getting up to in the second half of his teens. He really was a brother to be ashamed of. If Will had offered him help he would have spat in Will's face, because he despised his goody-two-shoes brother who sucked up to Brian Aldridge and did as he was told instead of being a Free Spirit like Ed.

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  • Message 75

    , in reply to message 74.

    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Will was nasty to Ed long before he became a game keeper.

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  • Message 76

    , in reply to message 75.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Will decided to become a gamekeeper before Edward spoke, or he spoke to Edward on air, as far as I remember. Did he, or they, speak when they were small children and he shot the peacock which was frightening Edward and hid it in his mother's freezer? I don't see that as having been nasty to Edward. Edward "sang" in the choir one Christmas, but I don't count that because it was obviously from Kings College Chapel or somewhere of the sort.

    The first we heard of Edward after that (apart from it being his birthday and there was no money, and him needing new boots and there was no money) was in 1998 when he stole some cushion covers from a display of GCSE coursework in school and sold them to William, who sold them on to Eddie for a fiver, and Eddie sold them as having been made by Clarrie, to Ruth, Caroline and I think Jennifer. Who was the thief there? The next thing Edward was noted as doing was killing a lot of the turkeys to be sold at Christmas 1999 by setting off fireworks in their shed. The fireworks had been bought be Christopher Carter, but whose bright idea was the turkey-shed as the place to set them off?

    As far as I remember Edward appeared on air for the first time when he was hanging about in the churchyard because he had nothng to do, and making a fool of himself by climbing on the church to show off and getting stuck, in April 2000. Will had started work as a gamekeeper's assistant to George Barford and Greg in July the previous year.

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  • Message 77

    , in reply to message 76.

    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    I remember Clarrie often telling a silent Will to stop picking on Edward when they were both young. We were given the impression he was a bully to his younger brother.

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  • Message 78

    , in reply to message 77.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Ah yes; the silents being told off to prove that the children haven't been sent down a coal-mine. Good solid editorial skill on display. Like the parties at which everyone is named as being "over there, with [someone else who doesn't speak]".

    I heard those scenes as Clarrie having a favourite and Will not being allowed to do anything which might upset Edward; I know what I would think about it if one of my friends always had nothing but praise for one child and nothing but censure for the other. That is why I have always felt the "Will was Clarrie's favourite" line was not borne out by the evidence.

    Favouritism might explain Ed's inner certainty that whatever he wants he has a god-given right to and if he doesn't get it then something is wrong with the world rather than with him, of course, if he was brought up thinking that he was always right.

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  • Message 79

    , in reply to message 78.

    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    But if Nic tells George off for hitting Mia that isn't showing favourtism is it? Talk about double standards. Will can do no wrong in your eyes and Ed no right. Nic is the perfect mother and Will the perfect father. Ed and Em can't compare. Perfect black and white view point.

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  • Message 80

    , in reply to message 79.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    anna, you have fallen into the vulgar error of thinking that because I do not like either Grundy brother I cannot tell them apart.

    Nic smacked George on the leg, once, for hurting a smaller child and for frightening Nic thereby. I don't think that is either hitting him or habitual.

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  • Message 81

    , in reply to message 80.

    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    No I haven't but I can see that one brother can do no right and the other no wrong. Not as objective as you profess to be.

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  • Message 82

    , in reply to message 81.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    No, what you see is that on the whole, I regard Will as being the lesser of two evils, and *anyone* as less culpable than Emma.

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  • Message 83

    , in reply to message 79.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    But if Nic tells George off for hitting Mia that isn't showing favourtism is it? Talk about double standards. Will can do no wrong in your eyes and Ed no right. Nic is the perfect mother and Will the perfect father. Ed and Em can't compare. Perfect black and white view point.  I have to agree, anna.

    Whether intended or not, that is EXACTLY how CG's stream of postings on this SL are coming over.

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  • Message 84

    , in reply to message 79.

    Posted by Scarlett the Harlot (U14942477) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    I think that both brothers have their faults and like a significant percentage of siblings have done wrong to each other and have nursed grievances.

    I think they should both think about the children that are affected by their relationship and try and at least have a civil, mature dialogue at all times.

    My one hope is that Nic and Emma present a united front and keep their respective partners from upsetting the apple cart.

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  • Message 85

    , in reply to message 83.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    anna, you were on the thread at www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb... last week.
    Message 69, in reply to message 68.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 1st November 2012

    If there is one thing this storyline *really* doesn't need, it is a row between Ed and Will, [p]resumably fomented for no particular reason by Will.

    It would be a lot more interesting as a story about Ed and Emma than as yet another a story about Ed and Emma versus Will.

    I expect he will have found out tonight, therefore. 

    Which is hardly being "in favour of Will", or does "fomented for no particular reason" seem to be in favour of the person I assumed would do it?

    Dracs, you like Ed. I dislike Ed and Will, though not as much as I dislike Emma. I am beginning to find your assertions about what I think very dull, as well as inaccurate, insulting and frankly unnecessary.

    I also think that your inability to admit that Ed was as offensive as Will last Friday is a shame, since it indicates that you listen with a very partial ear.

    Do me a favour and stop maing a point of having a go at me, eh?

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  • Message 86

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    Posted by Dailyfix (U14602649) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    How objective are you Anna? (maybe you don't claim to be) Saying that Nic favours Mia on the basis of one incident several years ago seems pretty biased to me. Emma is no fan of Nic's but said only yesterday that George enjoys spending time with her. Never has George said anything negative about Nic but he is forthright in his observations about other things like the atmosphere at Ed & Ems.
    It is difficult to be objective and it is not necessary without different views not much fun on the board but the Ed & Will thing leads to some of the most entrenched & illogical views on the board IMO. My views have wavered over the years from totally pro Will and anti Emma to start with through everyone is to blame but recently I have become more anti Ed as everyone else seems willing to put George first except him. I have always been pro Nic and feel vindicated by the character development continuing to be anti Nic in the face of all evidence to the contrary cannot be objective reasoning.

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  • Message 87

    , in reply to message 85.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Crikey, CG, your capacity to be blisteringly rude to people out of the blue has truly, truly taken me completely by surprise.

    As I wrote before, and as you very well know, I have supported and admired many of your postings on many topics on TA.

    Baffled at so virulent a response!

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  • Message 88

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    Posted by Scarlett the Harlot (U14942477) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    OK chaps put your handbags down!

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  • Message 89

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Dracs, I am fed up with you (and a few others) deciding on the basis of my not being unfailingly unpleasant about Will that I must therefore be absolutely in favour of him, and that because I can see that Ed has a nasty streak at least as large as his brother's I must therefore "hate" him, and then apparently feeling that you have to post about me and your perception of my feelings. It is neither discussing The Archers nor accurate, and because I expect better of you on account of your being an intelligent poster, it annoys me more when you do it than when brainless ha'porths who have been here for a week or so do it.

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  • Message 90

    , in reply to message 75.

    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Will was nasty to Ed long before he became a game keeper.  I think they are *BOTH* as nasty as each other .. in their different ways .. they are using George as a weapon ..

    As for Nic telling off Will - she didn't have to hear the conversation in its exactitude .. I think we can assume that Will came home continuing with his self righteous rant .. and that was what annoyed Nic. Plus I think she also heard something from Em .. Never mind who started it - someone has to end it .. Em and Ed are in trouble financially and need helping out .. particularly since George is bearing the brunt ..

    So she tells Will off for his attitude .. then sorts it ..

    Next for Nic - the Palestine Israeli problem ..
    JPBS

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  • Message 91

    , in reply to message 90.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Never mind who started it - someone has to end it  Yes; back at #52 I wrote "Look, I don't *care* what he said to you or you said to him, you're as bad as each other and the person you ought to be worrying about is George!" would have been a far better line of attack, and a lot more satisfying as far as I am concerned, than this "you're in the wrong and you ought to apologise to Ed" stuff. She doesn't need to be cross for the *wrong* reasons: she could perfectly well be cross for the right ones. 

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  • Message 92

    , in reply to message 89.

    Posted by mankberri (U14406433) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    I expect better of you on account of your being an intelligent poster, it annoys me more when you do it than when brainless ha'porths who have been here for a week or so do it.



    now tht is very rude

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  • Message 93

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Only to the brainless ha'porths, though. And about them I care not one jot, tittle or iota

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  • Message 94

    , in reply to message 90.

    Posted by NewEssexWoman (U9776561) on Thursday, 8th November 2012

    Totally agree, JPBS. Nic appears to be the only adult in this whole sorry saga. She seems to be the only one who has George's best interests at heart. The other three so-called grown-ups are only interested in using the poor little mite as a pawn in their long-standing war.

    I used to quite like Ed and always felt his behaviour towards his brother slightly less childish than Will's. But now I find his comments about 'being able to provide for his family' pathetic. Why shouldn't Ems contribute more to the household budget and Ed do more childcare?

    Why not talk to Clarrie and Susan about their plight and sort out their benefits entitlement? Pride butters no parsnips as they say ...

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  • Message 95

    , in reply to message 93.

    Posted by carolyn (U15450251) on Wednesday, 14th November 2012

    Of course not , there can be no comeback ! You have not named them &, as they are brainless, they won't be able to identify themselves, will they...
    Slightly more seriously ( but not much), this thread is becoming more -er- dramatic than the radio soap under discussion. How can anyone get offended about what others think about these characters ? What is the mileage in getting so personal ?

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  • Message 96

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 14th November 2012

    carolyn, why drag it back onto the front page if you deplore it, seeing that the last post before yours was six days ago and it had sunk well out of sight?

    My view of the behaviour of characters on this soap has caused people to be unpleasant about me for *years* -- those are the brainless people I don't feel strongly enough about to bother to name or indeed to bother to go and find in order to identify them.

    Do you not mind being told what you think, in an unpleasant way? I have always found it both rude and stupid of the persion doing it.

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  • Message 97

    , in reply to message 96.

    Posted by carolyn (U15450251) on Wednesday, 14th November 2012

    That's true, Chris - I wasn't looking at dates, only at the post numbers. I'll be more observant in future ; if some issue has been dropped, best to leave it, eh.
    As for minding, well, quite, who enjoys spiteful/silly/inappropriate aggression coming their way ? At the very least, it'll always be inappropriate on a forum such as this, which is why I opened it up in a more general way. It's hard to see why people get so worked up about TA, to the extent of rubbishing other posters. It seems to happen a lot

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  • Message 98

    , in reply to message 61.

    Posted by Margaret (U14756851) on Monday, 19th November 2012

    Agreed Polly. As usual the sws don't really think out the story properly. For example if Nic becomes pregnant will he back with Em and Ed full time or will she be expected to cope with four children? I expect Will would expect the latter but she might want the former and if that happened how will George feel about being passed from pillar to post?
     
    Why not? Lots of us have had four children and survived. Surely George has as much right to live with his Dad as with his Mum?

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  • Message 99

    , in reply to message 98.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Monday, 19th November 2012

    Not according to his Mum's boyfriend he hasn't.

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