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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Bette (U2222559) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    that Brenda really isn't interested in long-term commitment to Tom.

    Good! I wish she would leave Ambridge, and that Tom would find someone more enthousiastic - about jobs, life, anything. Brenda is /so/ wishy-washy.

    BRING BACK HANNAH!

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  • Message 2

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by moffettthemog (U15279786) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    that Brenda really isn't interested in long-term commitment to Tom.

    Good! I wish she would leave Ambridge, and that Tom would find someone more enthousiastic - about jobs, life, anything. Brenda is /so/ wishy-washy.

    BRING BACK HANNAH!  
    Nah, they're a grizzling grisaille.

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  • Message 3

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    Posted by Bette (U2222559) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    Sorry, don't understand your post. Are you saying that Tom and Hannah /were/ grizzling something-or-other? I didn't get that at all from their relationship. When Hannah left Ambridge, it was actually quite an emotional departure for her and Tom.

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  • Message 4

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    Posted by moffettthemog (U15279786) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    Sorry, don't understand your post. Are you saying that Tom and Hannah /were/ grizzling something-or-other? I didn't get that at all from their relationship. When Hannah left Ambridge, it was actually quite an emotional departure for her and Tom.   No, I'm talking about Tom and Brenda. A 'grisaille' is a painting in shades of grey, much favoured by the late 19th Century Symbolists.

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  • Message 5

    , in reply to message 4.

    Posted by Bette (U2222559) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    Ah, fair enough (and ML comes up yet again with something educational). It wasn't clear to which part of my post you were replying to, that's all.

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  • Message 6

    , in reply to message 3.

    Posted by returnmigration (U14260026) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012



    Will you marry me Brenda?

    No Tom, I'd rather run away to Australia, meet someone with a brain and an imagination, someone who doesnt think pigs are everything and I'm the hired help.

    .

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by Bette (U2222559) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    But they are /supposed/ to already engaged!

    I really /do/ hope that they split up. Brenda can move in with Vicki. Both of them will like that. Tom will be able to move on, then.

    I < heart > Tom, and have little time for Brenda.

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  • Message 8

    , in reply to message 3.

    Posted by acebass (U3133653) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    Sorry, don't understand your post. Are you saying that Tom and Hannah /were/ grizzling something-or-other? I didn't get that at all from their relationship. When Hannah left Ambridge, it was actually quite an emotional departure for her and Tom.   He bought her a wooly hat as a leaving present.

    Bet her heart skipped a beat

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Rose Sal Volatile Parade (U4705648) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    I don't really understand this SL. They keep clunking out massive great hints that Bren doesn't want to settle down, or marry, or have babies, or a house but without offering any hints at to why or giving any sign of anything wrong with her and Tom. I know it's universally agreed on here that Tom is an SLT but Bren not ML is the one who's living with him and she hasn't dropped any twonk hints I've heard that would explain this neon-lit evasion she goes in for. Usually some sign is given as to what's going wrong as well as the bald fact that the relationship is going nowhere.

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by Bette (U2222559) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    tbh, I have never understood their relationship. It has never 'gelled' with me - never sounded terribly plausible. They don't sound as if they love each other, and never have (sounded as such) - to my ears, anyway.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by Rose Sal Volatile Parade (U4705648) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    Yeah - true.

    I don't really understand Bren's job with Matt and Lilian either , for that matter.

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  • Message 12

    , in reply to message 11.

    Posted by Bette (U2222559) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    I thought she was just a pawn.

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    << she hasn't dropped any twonk hints I've heard that would explain this neon-lit evasion she goes in for. Usually some sign is given as to what's going wrong as well as the bald fact that the relationship is going nowhere. >>

    I know, it saddens me that Brenda doesn't seem to hold Tom in the utter contempt I'd like her to. She seems - just as you say - not quite ready actually to take the plunge into marriage. And every time Tom has one of his strokes of luck - the 'massive order' and now the magic kitchen - she perks right up. It is puzzling.

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by Ivor Hereford-Bull (U2222879) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    I got the impression when the house was mentioned that there a gentle "kerching" in the background.

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  • Message 15

    , in reply to message 13.

    Posted by Rose Sal Volatile Parade (U4705648) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    Why did she say, "It's nice to see you looking so happy?" He always looks happy, doesn't he? He's a tigger on a high most of the time; it's his dad who's Eeyore and it's Bren who's doing the vague moping and avoiding tactics - shouldn't the line have been his to her, not the other way round?

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  • Message 16

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by Pahnda (U14681704) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    But if she isn't interested in a long term commitment why did she give up the job in Leicester and why is she still living there? The longer she stays working for Matt and Lil the less chance she has of finding another job. Her CV is not going to impress anyone. I find her reluctance to commit to Tom very strange. If it's not what she wants why doesn't she get out?

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  • Message 17

    , in reply to message 16.

    Posted by Bette (U2222559) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    I find her reluctance to commit to Tom very strange. If it's not what she wants why doesn't she get out? 

    Yes, I agree. I have never 'got' Brenda, tbh. I think I would avoid her in RL, She comes across as such a downer.

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  • Message 18

    , in reply to message 17.

    Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    << I have never 'got' Brenda, tbh. I think I would avoid her in RL, She comes across as such a downer. >>

    I agree. She is not at all an appealing character. Very passive. She does a lot of complaining behind people's back, about Matt and Lilian, about her old job, in the past about Vicky, about Pip when she was being a know-it-all over Bridge Farm. But she never confronts anyone directly.

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  • Message 19

    , in reply to message 16.

    Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    She'd have nowhere to live if she split up with Tom. There's no room at Willow Cottage now.

    Tom has noticed that she seems to back off every time he talks about the future - she either changes the subject or, when that is not an option, as tonight, comes over all obtuse as though she doesn't know what he means ( "a house? For us?" no, for Jazzer of course.) He has discussed it with Pat. so why doesn't he discuss it with Brenda -try to pin her down on exactly where she thinks the relationship is going?

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  • Message 20

    , in reply to message 13.

    Posted by Tadpole (U2267185) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    " it saddens me that Brenda doesn't seem to hold Tom in the utter contempt I'd like her to. "


    Beautifully put, and echoed.

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  • Message 21

    , in reply to message 20.

    Posted by returnmigration (U14260026) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012


    Just imagine being stuck at a dinner party with Kathy on one side and Brenda on the other.

    Even Christine would start to look interesting in comparison.

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  • Message 22

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by Jane in Egypt (U14508770) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    Of course she isn't, she worked hard at uni for what, a job as a PA to Lilian and Matt that a school leaver with GCSE grade C could do. She sees the future stretching out in front of her in a row of little piglets and ending up like Emma tied down with rug rats. And whilst I prefer not to hear of rumpy pumpy they never seem to have the kind of relationship Chris and Alice do or even Will and Nick.

    I reckon she is going to go down with serious depression like Mike. I would with a life like that

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  • Message 23

    , in reply to message 16.

    Posted by flameofthewest (U14483084) on Wednesday, 10th October 2012

    I find her reluctance to commit to Tom very strange. If it's not what she wants why doesn't she get out? 
    Because she's afraid of being on her own. Like Jolene she only feels secure if she has a man. I've a friend like that in RL.

    Tom may be a SLT but I think he really loves Brenda, whereas I get the impression she thinks he will do until she gets a better offer. She has rejected a deeper commitment to the relationship so she will be available when Prince Charming rides over Lakey Hill on a white charger and whisks her away to Penny Hassett.

    I think we're moving towards her having to make up her mind. Either she faces the fact that Prince Charming probably won't be coming and Tom actually isn't a bad prospect. Or if she really can't imagine spending the rest of her life with him, she has to take the plunge and let him go.

    James is coming to stay next week. Didn't Brenda have a thing with him at one stage?

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  • Message 24

    , in reply to message 23.

    Posted by Dailyfix (U14602649) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Great idea! Maybe James has matured and is chastened after his experience with Leonie and wants a proper relationship. They are not being subtle about Brenda going luke warm every time Tom mentions marriage. It would be great if she got a life and left the village.

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  • Message 25

    , in reply to message 24.

    Posted by returnmigration (U14260026) on Thursday, 11th October 2012


    'Got a life' might need redefining if it was with James, but I do agree that something needs to happen in that relationship.

    Hopefully once the RM order is revealed as a scam (I have visions of Tom desperately driving about Worcestershire looking for a non-existent HQ with tons of defrosting cartons in the back) and he goes bankrupt, taking the entire BF house of cards and its ludicrous over-borrowing with him, Brenda could simply look at his snivelling self-pitying little visage and utter something along the lines of "Looser", "Silly little Mummy's Boy" or similar home truth and march off into the distance.

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by A Frend (U2249422) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Actually I don't think this is the response she'll give. This is the woman who left university because she was written as needing to sacrifice her career for her father who had killed off his first wife with over work. Nw she's signed up to the TuckerBabyProject she is dedicated to giving round the clock care to her father's new baby and so won't have time for Tom or her own job. And the SWs actually seem to think that this is admirable in her.

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  • Message 27

    , in reply to message 25.

    Posted by aquaticDougal (U3480367) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    We are hearing large very un-subtle hints from Bren that she does not want to move ahead with Tarm ....
    Tarm has picked up on them, to the extent that he has spoken to him Mummy about them. (Childish idiot!)

    So
    There is a concern, maybe even a problem, that they are both aware of.
    Yet
    They have not spoken about it to each other!
    Ridiculous!

    Sit down, relax, be honest & TALK you wallies!
    It really is very annoying that so many "issues" in Ambridge can all be sorted just by people talking to each other! Get on with it!

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  • Message 28

    , in reply to message 12.

    Posted by Scarlett the Harlot (U14942477) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    I thought she was just a pawn.  

    I read that as:

    I thought she was just a prawn .....


    Insult to prawns really ...

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  • Message 29

    , in reply to message 28.

    Posted by Buntysdaughter (U7084475) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Mmm, Pork and Prawn Cobbler, delish ! I'll place an order, Tom.

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  • Message 30

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by SredniVashtar07 (U9755761) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    that Brenda really isn't interested in long-term commitment to Tom.

    Good! I wish she would leave Ambridge, and that Tom would find someone more enthousiastic - about jobs, life, anything. Brenda is /so/ wishy-washy.

    BRING BACK HANNAH!  
    Sausage Boy is a bad habit like smoking, once she finds someone who doesnt treat her like the hired help she will drop the little chippolata like the twit he is !


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  • Message 31

    , in reply to message 24.

    Posted by fabsupergran (U11440988) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Great idea! Maybe James has matured and is chastened after his experience with Leonie and wants a proper relationship. They are not being subtle about Brenda going luke warm every time Tom mentions marriage. It would be great if she got a life and left the village.  If she dosen't see her future with Tom I hope she jolly well gets on and tells him soon.

    If James comes back and she falls for him (again?) I so hope they dont stay in Ambridge - A tiny helping of James about once every two years is just about as much as I can cope with.

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  • Message 32

    , in reply to message 20.

    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    thirded.

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  • Message 33

    , in reply to message 31.

    Posted by aquaticDougal (U3480367) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Tom? James? James? Tom?
    Hmmm

    As a choice for Bren.....
    Lots in common. Both bumptious mummy's boys, who have not been told "No" enough.
    Both so full of themselves that I'm surprised they haven't gone Pop!
    Both speak business cobblers ... & actually believe it!
    & both tap in to an old grey lady's purse whenever things get tough.

    So ... for Bren it;s the devil she knows vs the devil she knew ..... tough call.

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  • Message 34

    , in reply to message 33.

    Posted by Dailyfix (U14602649) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Good point. James has the advantage of being London based so Brenda could finally start on her career. Also I doubt James would pressure her to reproduce at least in the short term so she would have a chance to build her own life and move on if he doesn't shape up.

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  • Message 35

    , in reply to message 34.

    Posted by Rose Sal Volatile Parade (U4705648) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    The advantage of James as a bf for Brenda is that that situation would elicit less of Lilian's stupid fake laugh and more of the better acted bits of her - the bits where she gets jealous and narked and crabby and needy and angry.

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  • Message 36

    , in reply to message 35.

    Posted by Scarlett the Harlot (U14942477) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    I am no big fan of Brenda but is her choice really limited to Tom or James?

    Anyway she can't leave Ambridge now she has promised Vicky she will help her with the Downs baby.

    End of life for Brenda.

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  • Message 37

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by BlackSheepBoy (U11150138) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    If she does not stay solid, we're going to have a duplication of Fallon.

    Young woman; showed promise at one time; never properly came good; messed around locally instead; effluxion of time; now arrives at a desultory end personally and professionally.

    Bored and boring.

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  • Message 38

    , in reply to message 27.

    Posted by flameofthewest (U14483084) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    So
    There is a concern, maybe even a problem, that they are both aware of.
    Yet
    They have not spoken about it to each other!
    Ridiculous! 

    Ridiculous, but not implausible. People don't communicate with each other in real life, so why should they do so in serial drama? The friend I mentioned in message 23 drifted on for nearly 10 years in a relationship which was fairly miserable for both parties, until she finally met another bloke. Apparently they never sat down and talked about their problems either.

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  • Message 39

    , in reply to message 33.

    Posted by teddyandgypsy (U14935190) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Tom? James? James? Tom?
    Hmmm

    As a choice for Bren.....
    Lots in common. Both bumptious mummy's boys, who have not been told "No" enough.
    Both so full of themselves that I'm surprised they haven't gone Pop!
    Both speak business cobblers ... & actually believe it!
    & both tap in to an old grey lady's purse whenever things get tough.

    So ... for Bren it;s the devil she knows vs the devil she knew ..... tough call.
     
    Ah, but only one can offer Pork Balls

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  • Message 40

    , in reply to message 25.

    Posted by EBGB (U2613853) on Thursday, 11th October 2012


    Hopefully once the RM order is revealed as a scam (I have visions of Tom desperately driving about Worcestershire looking for a non-existent HQ with tons of defrosting cartons in the back) and he goes bankrupt, taking the entire BF house of cards and its ludicrous over-borrowing with him, Brenda could simply look at his snivelling self-pitying little visage and utter something along the lines of "Looser", "Silly little Mummy's Boy" or similar home truth and march off into the distance. 
    We're overdue a decent happy storyline, it's true.

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  • Message 41

    , in reply to message 37.

    Posted by Byeeee (U14697115) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    If she does not stay solid, we're going to have a duplication of Fallon.

    Young woman; showed promise at one time; never properly came good; messed around locally instead; effluxion of time; now arrives at a desultory end personally and professionally.

    Bored and boring. 
    And Emma and Kirsty are similar, too. Although IMO Emma should be the one to have that character development given her personality and life history, but they should have done something different with the others.

    On the subject of the thread I wonder of Brenda and Tom's relationship will come to a head when the Tucker's baby arrives and Tom starts saying 'oh wouldn't like a baby of our own Brenda, we can easily afford it now the readymeals are making squillions.' *


    * Other financial outcomes are possible. Though unlikely *sigh*

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