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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Angela Stepney (U15123321) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Why would a man in his 40's tell his mother all about his sex life.....yuk!

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Needed a confessional.

    And well done Jennifer, for telling him not to hurt Ian just so he doesn't feel so guilty!

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    Posted by borchesterbouncer (U14738918) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Wise words Jennifer.

    Blimey, did Iiust say that?

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    Posted by Angela Stepney (U15123321) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Well he's got his absolution..... now he can move on.

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    Posted by Rose Sal Volatile Parade (U4705648) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Gawd knows. It had me toes curling and I laughed out loud. Don't tell 'er Adam! She's yer mum for fgs!

    It really struck me that Adam really sounds like Prince Charles and Jenny was like the Queen. I wonder if they ever had a similar conversation about Camiwotsit?

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    Posted by Angela Stepney (U15123321) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Gawd knows. It had me toes curling and I laughed out loud. Don't tell 'er Adam! She's yer mum for fgs!

    It really struck me that Adam really sounds like Prince Charles and Jenny was like the Queen. I wonder if they ever had a similar conversation about Camiwotsit? 
    I would have liked to have been a fly on that palace wall!

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    Posted by toffee (U8026926) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Needed a confessional.

    And well done Jennifer, for telling him not to hurt Ian just so he doesn't feel so guilty! 


    Well she probably doesn't want him going to gay bars picking up riff raff if Ian dumps him, and he'd have to go to a gay bar to find someone, him being the only gay in the village (apart from Ian)

    I suspect Pawel will be back long before next year.

    Must admit, I hadn't realised he'd picked Pawel up in a gay bar. All I remember him saying - at the time, to Ian - was that he went to 'a bar'
    But then, I didn't realise they have gay bars in Archers Land.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by mike (U14258103) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    >>>But then, I didn't realise they have gay bars in Archers Land<<<

    In the pre-Ian Declan years Adom was always down the gay bar

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by malizon (U10119599) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    I hope this isn't a prelude to an AIDS SL....

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by Borrowed Time (U14261253) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Who else could he talk to? The miserable git has no friends.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by Angela Stepney (U15123321) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Who else could he talk to? The miserable git has no friends.  True.............but your Mum???

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by toffee (U8026926) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Who else could he talk to? The miserable git has no friends. 

    Don't be silly! Course he's got friends! He's got loads of friends!

    Remember? 'All the good friends' Ian said they'd be leaving behind if they moved to pastures new.
    I'm sure he's so spoilt for choice with friends to confide in he didn't want to favour one over the others so he spoke to Mummy instead!

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by siriol (U14748387) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Couldn't believe that Adam would confide in Jenny like that, and that she would be oh so very understanding! Didn't ring true at all - I think Jenny would have been rather shocked by her son's disloyalty to his partner.

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Adam took Brenda to a gay bar and snogged some bloke he knew, to stop her from having a crush on him.

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    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    erm..............she was? At least in the TA I heard.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Purple_Hay (U14319650) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Who else could he talk to? The miserable git has no friends. 

    Don't be silly! Course he's got friends! He's got loads of friends!

    Remember? 'All the good friends' Ian said they'd be leaving behind if they moved to pastures new.
    I'm sure he's so spoilt for choice with friends to confide in he didn't want to favour one over the others so he spoke to Mummy instead! 
    Hardly anybody has friends in TA

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Borrowed Time (U14261253) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    That's because they're all hateful.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by Angela Stepney (U15123321) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Couldn't believe that Adam would confide in Jenny like that, and that she would be oh so very understanding! Didn't ring true at all - I think Jenny would have been rather shocked by her son's disloyalty to his partner.   Yes indeed.....this was the woman who was appalled that her married daughter wasn't wearing any knickers under the leather apron!

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by Ruralrambler (U11117592) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Couldn't believe that Adam would confide in Jenny like that, and that she would be oh so very understanding! Didn't ring true at all - I think Jenny would have been rather shocked by her son's disloyalty to his partner.   After living with Brian for so long, infidelity can't come as a complete shock to her! And she has had her own moments, too.

    But I agree that telling your mum about your affairs is a bit weird.

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Borrowed Time (U14261253) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    But JD knows what it is like to sleep with the hired help.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by Curmy (U10228939) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    I'm surprised JD didn't suggest Adam went & got tested for Nasties !

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by march51 (U14448837) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Spot on. But it's another cop-out SL: a couple of weeks ago it looked like Ian would find out and/ or Pawel would spill the beans. Either way something would hit the fan. But instead: nothing, except Adam easing his guilt by telling his mum! It's not good enough!

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by Angela Stepney (U15123321) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Well I'm glad Pawel's gone back...........I hope we never hear from him again!

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by Earldunda (U14196337) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Couldn't believe that Adam would confide in Jenny like that, and that she would be oh so very understanding! Didn't ring true at all - I think Jenny would have been rather shocked by her son's disloyalty to his partner.   That may be so for the "recent" Jennifer, but before the writers reduced her to her present silly state, always wailing about cheese, lunch and coffee, she was a respectably intelligent character, more in line with how she appeared to her son today.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by neveronsaturday (U14715940) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Why would a man in his 40's tell his mother all about his sex life.....yuk!  Completely unbelievable-gross, pathetic - gives Gay men a bad name and puts back there cause!!

    Top yourself or bugger off to Poland

    Totally unbelievable storyline aaargh

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    How does Jennifer know what it feels like to sleep with the hired help?

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by Borrowed Time (U14261253) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    My mistake. Paddy Redmond was Brookfield Cowman wasn't he.

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Phew! I thought I had forgotten one. Thanks.

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by snarklehound (U15065053) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    I'd have thought Brian was the man to give advice on living in guilt and carrying it off with a high hand.

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by bebopalula (U8847542) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Well I am not surprised he told Jennifer they have always been close and Jennifer has always been supportive and never judgemental. I am mystified that so many posters think it is odd for him to talk to Jennifer. she was a good choice for him, she was helpful, not judgemental and gave him good advice Jenny is used to these sort of scenarios in her family and manages them well and Adam knows this and she won't gossip about it behind his back.

    Bebop

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by Sister Gnome of Wibbling Plume DefiantUntoThingy (U14268086) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Jennydarlingk: 'Oh, Adam! Why involve others? I can help you. How can you take away the sting? I can help. There's some in the fridge - put yoghurt on it. .'

    Adam: 'Thanks, MUM.'

    JD: 'Tell no one, unless you want to push the marketing. It's VERY good. Ask Brian.'

    Gnome: Urrrrk.

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by moffettthemog (U15279786) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Couldn't believe that Adam would confide in Jenny like that, and that she would be oh so very understanding! Didn't ring true at all - I think Jenny would have been rather shocked by her son's disloyalty to his partner.   Yes indeed.....this was the woman who was appalled that her married daughter wasn't wearing any knickers under the leather apron!  Chris had borrowed them...

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by toffee (U8026926) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Well I am not surprised he told Jennifer they have always been close and Jennifer has always been supportive and never judgemental. I am mystified that so many posters think it is odd for him to talk to Jennifer. she was a good choice for him, she was helpful, not judgemental and gave him good advice Jenny is used to these sort of scenarios in her family and manages them well and Adam knows this and she won't gossip about it behind his back.

    Bebop  


    Maybe the surprise is cos he's 45 and talking to his mother about his sex life.

    And presumably your average 45 year old man is more likely trying to talk to his teenage son about sex, not his 67 year old mother.

    Maybe it's what the writer thinks gay men DO.

    Would they have 31 year old Tom talking about HIS sex like to Pat?
    I doubt it somehow.

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by firesprite (U14701118) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    The confession was awful and completely inappropriate.

    Absolutely awful
    Sorry but it was and Jenny, fishing, fishing. Absolutely appalling.

    Not read up thread so apologies if this has been said..

    Awful, awful, awful....

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by Bette (U2222559) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    The confession was awful and completely inappropriate. 

    I thought so too.

    However, I was in two minds about Jenny's advice. OTOH, Angela Piper can do no wrong as an actress, imo - so saved the scene.

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Agree, bette. Adam was appalling - all that soft voiced stuff, A.Piper tops. Didn't much care for the script, but she was good. What might have been good would have been for JD to tell Adam a few home truths about how her own early love life had gone off-road more than once, what it does to you, and a bit more on the value of what the eye doesn't see etc............. she knows more about that than most.

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by firesprite (U14701118) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    Agree Bette, Angela Piper did save that scene..

    But she needed too.
    Cannot believe the neediest of Adam at that age.. Dreadful, absolutely dreadful

    Cannot believe the absolute releience of a his mother to make him feel better about himself at his age.

    When is Jenny ever going to get a break from these dreadful, ageing children?

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    I thought it fairly realistic.

    JD had spotted that Pawel was gay and hoped he had had a good time but probably not guessed who with until Adam spilled the beans, having felt very small all day for the way he behaved towards the boy.

    Why didn't he stay? Could have got a job as a milkman? Or in the GG kitchens!

    Do we know what he does at home?

    I would look ionm Who's Who if it had an index.

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    We were lostening in the car, and even my husband, who isn't a regular listener, said "What? Why?"

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 19th September 2012

    After all our speculation about Pawel telling anyone, what happens? Adam does it for him! It was a bit crazy.

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Thursday, 20th September 2012

    I thought it fairly realistic.

    JD had spotted that Pawel was gay and hoped he had had a good time but probably not guessed who with until Adam spilled the beans, having felt very small all day for the way he behaved towards the boy.

    Why didn't he stay? Could have got a job as a milkman? Or in the GG kitchens!

    Do we know what he does at home?

    I would look ionm Who's Who if it had an index.  
    He could become the adminstarator of the Ambridge T sceme - that would leave him pleny of spare time "for fun".

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    Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Thursday, 20th September 2012

    adminstarator  

    Of course, I meant "administrator" - eyesight not so good! Anyone know how to increase the on-screen font size in ML?

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    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 20th September 2012

    Anyone know how to increase the on-screen font size in ML? 

    Ctrl+ will usually increase.

    Or use Firefox and "The Script" (both very easy downloads) and you can make it any size/colour/width you want.

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    Posted by strokecitydave (U5467417) on Thursday, 20th September 2012

    Anyone know how to increase the on-screen font size in ML? 

    Ctrl+ will usually increase.

    Or use Firefox and "The Script" (both very easy downloads) and you can make it any size/colour/width you want.  
    Thank you so much for your instant reply! I'm struggling on my old laptop whilst I get everything set up on my new one, which arrived a couple of days age. I was already thinking off using Firefox as my browser.

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  • Message 45

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    Posted by Margaret Eccles (U2068114) on Thursday, 20th September 2012


    >>"Ctrl+ will usually increase."<<

    Oh thank goodness - I tried everything I could think of to get the font back to normal. Last week the visiting cat jumped on my desk and stepped on the keyboard before I could stop her. It was from that moment when the font went all little - don't know which key her darling paw had depressed to have brought about this annoyance, but like I said, I tried everything.

    Thank you!

    BTW - I think it was perfectly OK for Adam to tell his mum, under the circumstances. He knows she's sensible and wouldn't betray his confidence.

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by Sturmey Archer (U2328688) on Thursday, 20th September 2012

    Needed a confessional. 

    I can just imagine it now:

    mAdam (for it is he, sits down in the confessional and starts pouring his heart, deeds, mis-deeds, norty thorts, norty words, and norty deeds with the perverted Pawel, to the locum confessor, Father Dan Brown who is taking over TVoA's duties whilst the Good Bunter is enjoying an eating holiday with his Spousal Unit in Italy). Imagine, if you can, the scene inside the hushed church in which mAdam goes to confession looking for help, and tells the priest he is desperate. The priest, trying to comfort mAdam, tells him "Call me Dan – Dan"; to which mAdam replies "I'm desperate, Dan".

    (from an idea originally scripted by the great Alan Bleasdale)

    - sa (…well, time to go and do a bit of keel-haulin' I s'pose…)

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  • Message 47

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    Posted by Sturmey Archer (U2328688) on Thursday, 20th September 2012

    Thanks for the useful tip!

    It's always good to learn at least one new thing every day!

    - sa (Arrrrr, OI lad!)

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  • Message 48

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    Posted by Angela Stepney (U15123321) on Thursday, 20th September 2012

    If you have a windows toolbar go into the Veiw dropdown, you can alter the fontsize under Zoom.
    Works for me.

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  • Message 49

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    Posted by mike (U14258103) on Thursday, 20th September 2012

    >>>Maybe it's what the writer thinks gay men DO.<<<

    No, but it is what ADAM would do. He has always been a Mummy's Boy.

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  • Message 50

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    Posted by MartinWL (U2496353) on Thursday, 20th September 2012

    It was a toe-curling scene and not at all believable that Adam would confide this episode to his mother of all people. It is also a bit far-fetched that he is so anguished by the whole thing.

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