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  • Message 51

    , in reply to message 47.

    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    whats wrong with scripties?. i dont use it myself, but dont mind if others do. it is a sort off liverpudlian/australian usage to me.

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  • Message 52

    , in reply to message 51.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    I would have thought that scripties was quite a friendly word, almost cuddly.

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  • Message 53

    , in reply to message 50.

    Posted by Feral_Ralph (U2333894) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    Interesting, Dracs. Here in the middle of London as Dave would put it dismissively the police dealt with an outbreak of quite unpleasant anti-social behaviour in my neighbourhood rapidly and with remarkable effectiveness. In cases of witness intimidation and associated criminal damage with added threats to public safety, Borsetshire Constabulary seem to be taking a very laid back approach to matters. Perhaps there's an agenda being played out.

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  • Message 54

    , in reply to message 48.

    Posted by RAFromSw (U14574822) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    How would he feel if one of his children got hurt? Presumably he would want the perpatrator locked up... If good people do nothing evil will triumph. 
    And that would make Josh / Ben feel so much better - possibly for the rest of their lives.

    ps (Haven't envisaged Pip being hurt by the crims as I am guessing that would be too distracting a pleasant thought).

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  • Message 55

    , in reply to message 54.

    Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    And their lives if the people who attacked them are walking the streets? And knowing their father is a coward? If everyone just looks after their own short term interests then we are all worse off.

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  • Message 56

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    Posted by RAFromSw (U14574822) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    And their lives if the people who attacked them are walking the streets? And knowing their father is a coward? If everyone just looks after their own short term interests then we are all worse off.  

    I can't disagree - however with the police taking little or no action I would not be putting my children at risk. He should be fighting very hard indeed to get some proper action and protection at the threat of not giving witness.

    And yes I still sympathise with Jill and can understand where she is coming from.

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  • Message 57

    , in reply to message 56.

    Posted by joe (U13868420) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    with the police taking little or no action I would not be putting my children at risk  They might take action if he actually bothered to report everything that's been going on.

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  • Message 58

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    He has been, I think. Since the ram the only thing that *has* happened is the cattle.

    I still want to know how he is meant to capitulate, if he decidesd to, and why these thugs are putting themselves at risk of getting caught by hanging about at Brookfield instead of sending photogaraphs of the children with unthreatening remarks about "Saw your lovely daughter in town the other dday; isn't it great how well she's doing, with no troubles or mishaps?" Or just the photographs: David would understand what was meant.

    Well, *Ruth* would!

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  • Message 59

    , in reply to message 57.

    Posted by Feral_Ralph (U2333894) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    I think he is now. The story is all over the place. One off or unconnected incidents of criminal damage might well receive a relatively low key response. There's something not right here. The case doesn't suggest the type of witness initimidation being practised, but there it is, so if this is the big deal and Dave's the star witness, the apparent lack of zeal on the part of PC Dean Fletcher and his colleagues seems a bit odd.

    By contrast, hem hem, Matt's arrest and prosecution was really well researched and handled.

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  • Message 60

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    Posted by STESMI (U2094379) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    Yes agree with the character change comments but I wonder if there was a slight subtle 'problem' at the end between Deeevid and Roooth? When he was asking for support there was a small but noticeable pause?

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  • Message 61

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    Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    I think he is now. The story is all over the place. One off or unconnected incidents of criminal damage might well receive a relatively low key response. There's something not right here. The case doesn't suggest the type of witness initimidation being practised, but there it is, so if this is the big deal and Dave's the star witness, the apparent lack of zeal on the part of PC Dean Fletcher and his colleagues seems a bit odd.

    By contrast, hem hem, Matt's arrest and prosecution was really well researched and handled. 
    Have read with increrasing alarm people's views and opinions regarding this sl.

    Having lived through the trauma of being attacked repeatedly by miscreants in this random fashion then - believe me - you certainly do not act or respond in any way youcsould imagine.

    This is because the reality of the situation is paralysing. Being attacked in and around your own home is emotionally draining and you feel terrorised.

    The fact is you cant escape the situation because you live there. Its your home, your family, your stock and nothing in your world is or feels safe.

    I suspect its hard to undersgtand or being to say what would be appropriate behaviour in this regard.

    It makes you ill - thats what happens

    I tell you what - whoever has come up with this scenario may have actually spoken to someone who has or is going through this

    You do install security cameras - jumping at any shadow and over reacting to the slightest thing that moves

    When your animals have been attacked - you feel physically sick. Put to one side the fact that they are being raised for food/etc. They are a physical being, you form an attachment, tend to them whilst in your care and try and give them as good a life as is possible whilst mindful that they are a beast bred for a purpose.

    You fear for your family although the threats against or towards them never actually transpire - the fact that you imagine they could be serves the purpose for the perpetrator. He doesnt have to actually attack anyone - its the fear that it could happen - that does the damage to your heart, head and well being.

    No where feels safe and family members do say, act and watch while you suffer - because at the end of the day you are at the mercy of those who are creating this situation for you - at their mercy until they decide they have had enough with you and move on to terrorise someone else.

    It is a big deal when it happens to you. There is nothing in real life that helps. Dont even speculate on the role of the police, other 'should be interested bodies. These people only deal with absolute proof, evidence that is more than one hundred per cent uncontrivertable

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  • Message 62

    , in reply to message 45.

    Posted by Athena Ergane (U14927530) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    < But realism has never touched this storyline >

    Agreed it has been daft from the outset. Rural crime is a big issue. It is a pity that the prodteam can't handle it in a realistic manner. No need for character changes. 
    Well apart from the question of how David is supposed to tell 'them' that he isn't going to testify at a trial which could be months away.
    Put a notice in the Echo?

    Surely in his role as area co-ordinator for Farm Watch he should have notified other farmers about the attack on his sheep.

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  • Message 63

    , in reply to message 59.

    Posted by joe (U13868420) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    He took his time, though, didn't he? Would things have escalated this far had he reported the phone calls from the first?

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  • Message 64

    , in reply to message 61.

    Posted by RAFromSw (U14574822) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    Wow - top post PigsRLoverly.

    Never remotely been through anything like that, but I suspected it would never be as simple as "my principles are inviolate" blah blah blah.

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  • Message 65

    , in reply to message 8.

    Posted by shell-like (U2729210) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    It's turning into High Noon, isn't it? 

    Yup! Rugged he-man gotta do what a rugged he-man gotta do, an' don't pay no min' to them wimmin-folk.

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  • Message 66

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by Listener1969 (U14683000) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    I am really cross - they are now making out that Jill would even suggest that David not give evidence. Where did the principled, stout-hearted person we have all known go?

    I feel that this is a step too far. It's just not like her at all.

    Damson 
    Exactly!! It's because today's SW's have no conception of character writing. It amazes me that the producers don't bring them into line and tell them to study the characters they are writing about. Unless, of course - as has been suggested on another thread - it's all a plot by the "powers that be" to end the programme. I'm beginning to draw no other conclusion. I'm afraid we shall have no programme in - well - maybe 2 years! what do you feel?

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  • Message 67

    , in reply to message 61.

    Posted by Feral_Ralph (U2333894) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    Actually, prl, I am in a position to speak from experience and the Metroploitan Police reaction was exemplary. As I say this story remains all over the place.

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  • Message 68

    , in reply to message 61.

    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    pigsrlovely, your description of what happened to you is indeed horrific, and I hope this has ceased now?

    I do want to ask something: what was the demand being made of you by these thugs? Did you accede to their demands, and was that why it stopped (if it has)?

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  • Message 69

    , in reply to message 61.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    OK, thanks for that. Now, can you tell us the role of the police in all this, as a comparison to what is happening on TA?

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  • Message 70

    , in reply to message 67.

    Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    Actually, prl, I am in a position to speak from experience and the Metroploitan Police reaction was exemplary. As I say this story remains all over the place.  The police did investigate and provided the CPS with evidence, etc but CPS decided not in public interest to proceed.

    This was contested at the time by our advocate but it has since been acknowledged and accepted that mistakes have been made regarding our plight.

    It is a fact that damage to property and animals sometimes fails to galvanise prosecution and the cowards doing the crimes realise this.

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  • Message 71

    , in reply to message 68.

    Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Tuesday, 19th June 2012

    pigsrlovely, your description of what happened to you is indeed horrific, and I hope this has ceased now?

    I do want to ask something: what was the demand being made of you by these thugs? Did you accede to their demands, and was that why it stopped (if it has)? 
    Hasnt stopped but police installed cameras and have actually tried to help

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  • Message 72

    , in reply to message 36.

    Posted by EsmeandSebastiansGrannyNic (U12027312) on Thursday, 21st June 2012

    Let's hope management takes notes of our comments! I don't see any positive ones. Perhaps management has decided they want to cast us all aside and cultivate a new audience! Or perhaps we should sack management! 



    They never have so cannot see them starting now.......

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