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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    Well, we did wonder why they had all that stuff on AmEx ref TVOA / Amy etc.

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    Posted by Rose Sal Volatile Parade (U4705648) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    That was an AmEx story?

    I thought it was odd all crammed in in one go like that.

    Oh dear.

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    Posted by mademoiselledecompost (U14526349) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    That was an AmEx story?

    I thought it was odd all crammed in in one go like that.

    Oh dear.  
    Who cares, was it meant to be drama? Amy's confession was hilarious.

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    Posted by exxers (U15150817) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    That was an AmEx story?

    I thought it was odd all crammed in in one go like that.

    Oh dear.  
    Er yes. Crammed. You should try Amex; it takes a w.h.i.l.e. to un/fold.

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    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    It was a dull SL on TA Lite. That painful retelling was - well - painful and felt almost as tedious as the original. I'm afraid I don't care one hoot about Amy's mother.

    I enjoyed Benjamin's antics though. I was worried when the CA mentioned Benjamin before that start. What a relief to find it wasn't one of the Brokefailed donkeys.

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    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    Yes, interestingly in the last AmEx, it seemed to be slotted into the final section of the run almost as an afterthought - or that was how it was received, and I have to say that many posters were bemused then. Far too complex to stuff into one scene of Sunday's tx. Couldn't work out why it was there at all.

    Weirdly unconnected with anything.

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by Rose Sal Volatile Parade (U4705648) on Sunday, 1st April 2012


    >>Weirdly unconnected with anything<<

    Indeed. Except perhaps the desire to shoehorn some urban racism and violence in there somehow, somewhere, however disconnectedly or randomly. Perhaps it was a bet: heres' a fiver says I /will/ get a stabbing and racist bullying into TA before I go!

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by Forgotten-Tractor (U8142083) on Sunday, 1st April 2012


    >>Weirdly unconnected with anything<<

    Indeed. Except perhaps the desire to shoehorn some urban racism and violence in there somehow, somewhere, however disconnectedly or randomly. Perhaps it was a bet: heres' a fiver says I /will/ get a stabbing and racist bullying into TA before I go! 
    Or perhaps a deliberate change of scene? Following Friday's closing scene at BF, marking the end of a series of SL's there, tonight's scene wit Amy and Alice was saying, we're moving on?

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by siriol (U14748387) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    I had been quite enjoying AMEX until they introduced the storyline about Amy's mother......and now we've had to suffer it again tonight! Very badly done too - it felt rushed and contrived and very amateurish.

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by Rettegrap (U1759870) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    and hardly topical? Amy's mother has been dead for how long? We never knew her, and it happened in HER youth. A bit of a non-story, IMHO.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by Where_IS_Planet_Archer (U14598574) on Sunday, 1st April 2012


    >>Weirdly unconnected with anything<<

    Indeed. Except perhaps the desire to shoehorn some urban racism and violence in there somehow, somewhere, however disconnectedly or randomly. Perhaps it was a bet: heres' a fiver says I /will/ get a stabbing and racist bullying into TA before I go! 
    Or perhaps a deliberate change of scene? Following Friday's closing scene at BF, marking the end of a series of SL's there, tonight's scene wit Amy and Alice was saying, we're moving on? 
    got quite excited at the thought of Alice moving on.
    From Ambridge, permanently?

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    OK, so do we now get Alice's second shot at 'confession' about Chaz, also from AmEx 1?

    OK, is this the start of the Alice pregnancy + Amy as midwife?

    OK, have the hastily cobbled together this bit of nonsense as suggested as a filler?

    If you did not hear it in the AmEx original, let me tell you it was SO, so drawn out and slow, convoluted and desperately, as said upthread, SO long ago way before TVOA even came to the vill.

    They seem to be on this interminable 'the past is another country', no-one has written about it, so we can dredge it at will. Ivy? J2? Amy [ a non-character frankly]' s mother. Black British daughter, urban violence etc, and the lass winds up in Am,bridge??? Eh?

    Blimey, how totally desperate must the SWs be?

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    It was just a catchup IMHO - the SL was pointless in AmEx and equally pointless in TA.

    They saw the scraps of the SL lying around unused and thought "waste not want not" so served it up luke warm.
    JPBS

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Sunday, 1st April 2012

    Sounds about right to me. Such a strange, strange filler and after Friday night's epi of the Waltons at Sunnybrook Farm.............?

    Maybe that's why they did it - total change of personnel. That's the end of BF for months maybe??

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    what was that all about then? alan had to sort out his mother in laws sisters effects after her death ? that rather confused me for a kick off. shall have to listen again.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    I wouldn't bother, irene, ...........really.

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Jon Dylon (U2323379) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    > quite enjoying AMEX until they introduced the storyline about Amy's mother<

    Me too Siriol. I thought the SL with Matt and Clive was really good. The stuff tagged on to the end about Amy's mother seemed, well, tagged on.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    what i want to know, dracs,is how going through great aunties effects caused alan to find out that his late wife had stabbed somone and had been sent to young offenders, or whatever it was called then. was it an entry in her diary. 'my dear great niece, amy, has been put in the slammer for a bit of shanking'. ?

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Amy is going to go berserk with a cake-knife from @Lakeland, when she finds out Carl is married with 4 kids, and she herself is pregnant, and he attempts to leave her.

    Obvious, innit?

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Mabel asked Alan to sort out Annie's effects, and Alan found letters from Young Katharine to Annie, with the address, Something House, Falconwood Lane, Clapham, all about how mis she was.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    He asked Mabel about it (probably with continuity time/space continuum mistake, as he was eating in Ambridge at the same time, but who cares), and then Alan and Usha investigated, found a care worker who was The Only Person who Katharine had confided( in whom K etc) and got to eat cake with her, and get the Whole Story.

    And probably bi cues too.

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Drafted spell cheque.

    Biccies

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    thank you, dinah. oh god amex. i never listen and now its just messing with my mind. this is mental cruelty from the bbc.and i protest.

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by PollyGlot (U4652497) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    'He asked Mabel about it (probably with continuity time/space continuum mistake, as he was eating in Ambridge at the same time, but who cares),'

    Dinah - I'm sure Bunter can trough in several parallel universes simultaneously.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Mabel *gave* Alan the letters to look through. This of from the synopsis ..

    "At the Vicarage Alan is eating lunch, telling Usha he’s got a pile of letters from Catherine (his first wife) that were in Auntie Annie’s house. "

    After that we hear Alan talking to Mabel on the phone - but once or twice he drove up to Bradford** to talk to Mabel in person ..

    So no being in two places at once!
    JPBS
    **except I think I put "Birmingham" by mistake .

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Alan/old letters SL starts at post 240 on the synopsis thread ... so *very* late in the day.

    I read though I was glad of the new SL because I thought one of the other SLs was "yukky"
    JPBS

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    and of course Amy's mum [has she a name?] had to have mitigating circumstances didn't she? She couldn't have just stabbed someone in a rage. Just like Darrell didn't really mean to accept stolen goods and Matt didn't realise the extent of Chalkie's dishonesty. No one apart from CLive is allowed to be a bad un.

    Soo limp.

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by joe (U13868420) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    she finds out Carl is married with 4 kids, and she herself is pregnant, and he attempts to leave her.

    Obvious, innit? 
    OK as far as it goes, but this will be in AmEx, remember! He gets /Alice/ up the duff (given her level of drunken stupidity in AmEx I, this is not, er, inconceivable).

    Carl runs back to wife and family leaving (naturally) no forwarding address.

    Amy - who has been /so/ supportive of her bessie mate Alice, and giving her every benefit of her professional expertise - finds out and…

    Voilà - they can use all those abandoned Helen/Leon/Annette scripts that are languishing in the bottom drawer.

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by PollyGlot (U4652497) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    And apparently Catherine didn't tell anyone about the bleach the time. Surely this is the one thing she would have told everyone. Why didn't she? Were there no school friends who would venture the information? Could the bleach be part of a retrospectively created story? Or was it a perception of persecution only Catherine had and was not backed up by reality? Or was she simply over-reacting?

    These are only questions. I do know important things can be left out of statements given to 'the authorities' especially when there is pressure that a story should follow a certain SL - yes even in RL - but there are many unanswered questions about this.

    Perhaps Amy should do her own spot of investigating. It's never a good idea to believe only one version of a story. In fact it's a very bad idea. She should talk to people and look at documentary evidence. Whatever it takes, she needs to go into it and get to the truth if she is to get any peace of mind. Of course she has to bear in mind that the truth might be far more disturbing than the bare narrative presented by Alan.

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Tbh Polly. I care little for Amy and even less for her mother. It really does seem strange that the sws have to write stories about long dead people who were never in the programme.

    Surely they aren't that desperate for ideas?

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by joe (U13868420) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    It really does seem strange that the sws have to write stories about long dead people who were never in the programme.  Decidedly odd. There have been, what, three in the last twelve months (if you include Ivy, who was only introduced in order to die)?

    Then there are the posthumous rewritings of characters we /did/ know - ever-smiling, GSOH, life and soul of the party Sid Perks??

    Add in the amount of work Fairies 'R' Us are called on to do and you're left with the impression of a programme in severe crisis.

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Ivy had been in the programme in the past though. Amy's mother has been brown bread for years.

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    You will have to read the synopsis to get the details ... the Alan finds letters bit starts at post 240 - very late in the day.
    JPBS

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by PollyGlot (U4652497) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Yes Anna, you are right. Actually, what I suggested might make a half-decent story for an afternoon play.

    But for TA......? There isn't enough time. The fifteen minutes have to be divided up between so many other stories. The one I am a really getting fed up with is Brian and the BL megadairypiggery. I am not, repeat not, interested in the chuntering of members of the BL board, including the reptilian Annabelle, who is, I suppose providing some auditory totty. Boring.

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    I must say I prefer Alice/Amy conflabs to the BL board !

    I find I've nodded off during the latter ..
    JPBS

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Agreed. The mega dairy story is going nowhere fast and the board meetings are repetitive and dull.

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    Posted by joe (U13868420) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Ivy had been in the programme in the past though.  You're right, of course. I should have said /re/introduced.

    The whiff of desperation still lingers, though.

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by joe (U13868420) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Perhaps Amy should do her own spot of investigating. It's never a good idea to believe only one version of a story. In fact it's a very bad idea. She should talk to people and look at documentary evidence. Whatever it takes, she needs to go into it and get to the truth if she is to get any peace of mind. Of course she has to bear in mind that the truth might be far more disturbing than the bare narrative presented by Alan.  That was basically what Alan did in the last couple of weeks of AmEx II, of course.

    The other factor that hasn't been mentioned is Usha's nastiness. She all but ordered a reluctant Alan to tell Amy about her mother's "crime" - apparently out of resentment of the regard in which both of them held her. "Maybe we can finally lay Catherine to rest" were her thoughts IIRC (the one time the irritating internal monologue actually served any useful purpose).

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    I disagree about her motive - and it was Alan's decision in the end.

    Suppose Amy had found out from someone else or from newspaper archive trawl? That was the reason given anyway and I would say Catherine had been presented as victim rather than perpetrator
    JPBS

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Of course she was a victim no one criminal is ever a perpetrator in TA except for Clive.

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    [If you did not hear it in the AmEx original, let me tell you it was SO, so drawn out and slow, convoluted and desperately, as said upthread, ]

    It was indeed Dracs, and I could not believe I was having to hear it all again in precise form yet again last night. Still, I suppose it saves on having to think up new storylines, this recycling of them from one programme to another.

    And what Amy skated over was the thing that finally turned me completely against Alan: that the stuff about Amy's Mum only came to light because he read letters he found that were /hers/ from a time long before he met her, and then set about tracking down people from her past, a past that had happened long before he met her.

    The past being another country, one that belongs to the person who occupied it and that if they didn't want to tell you about, you have no business disregarding that wish and exposing it any, appears to not have been a problem for that sanctimonious blighter.

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    He debated as to whether to read them - but then decided it was a "privilege" ... A letter isn't a diary is it? Is it always wrong to read others letters - would it have been wrong to give them to Amy to read? He wasn't to know there would be a horrible secret was he?

    After he read them he couldn't "unknow" the contents - too late. In the end he tracked down those people to right an injustice - for he felt sure there had been one

    OH had some letters from the first world war written by an uncle to his parents (ie OHs grandparents). So was it wrong for others to read those?
    JPBS

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by A Frend (U2249422) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    and hardly topical? Amy's mother has been dead for how long? We never knew her, and it happened in HER youth. A bit of a non-story, IMHO. 

    Well, quite. I don't buy the idea that finding this out was such a shock to Amy. Turst Alan to muff telling her - indeed why on earth would he tell her in the first place? I can't see what business was it of his or Amy's what his wife got up to as a teenager. .

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    I think there is something difference in reading letters that are practically historical documents to reading letters relating to the life of someone who one knew and who had clearly wanted to keep this aspect of their life from one.

    Actually I think one can 'unknow' things. If we are told something in confidence by someone and swear not to repeat that knowledge to anyone else, then we are 'unknowing' in the sense that we can never pass that knowledge on. I think reading letters about an incident in someone's life that they have taken the deliberate decision not to tell you about is the same as being told a confidentiality, or rather, surreptitiously over hearing it. To do anything with that knowledge was not Alan's decision to make; that decision had been made for him by his wife when she took the decision not to tell him about that time in her life.

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  • Message 45

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    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    yes quite frend, i think i would have just kept my mouth shut. i cant barely adam and ian it, that amy thinks because she as a short fuse she might attack someone, because her mother once did. but if someone like carl likes her she must be alright. what?

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    Agreed Polly. I'm sure many of us know things that we have chosen not to repeat because repeating it can do no good whatsoever.

    What a contrived 'drama' this is and spread over two seperate programmes makes it more nonsensical.

    Who care about a dead character who was never in the programme in the first place?

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  • Message 47

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    Posted by MicklefiedSchool (U15086316) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    We increasingly hear the sound of the bottom of the barrel being scraped in the past year or more with some of the SLs and, if the incidence regarding Amy's mother is irrelevant, why bring it back up in a seemingly unnecessary manner? Amy's mental state is surely going to be played with in this relationship with the so far un-heard Carl and, I think, VW and the SWs are going to have an intentional stab at trying to get some younger listeners who, perhaps, have listened to AMEX, tuning into the mother programme.

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  • Message 48

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    Posted by Scarlett the Harlot (U14540168) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    I was (and remain) bemused as to how Ambridge Extra was going to get "young poeple" tuning in. For a start it was on on Tuesdays and Thursdays at around 2.30 p.m.

    Aren't "young people" at school, college, university or work on those days and times?

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  • Message 49

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    and is R4 extra a station of choice of the yoof?

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  • Message 50

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    Posted by joe (U13868420) on Monday, 2nd April 2012

    VW and the SWs are going to have an intentional stab at trying to get some younger listeners who, perhaps, have listened to AMEX, tuning into the mother programme.  That's assuming that this will be played out in TA rather than AmEx. It could just as easily be the other way round.

    That this sort of shouty, yoof-oriented melodrama is precisely what leads many TA listeners actively to avoid TV soaps is neither here nor there.

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