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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Fi of little faith (U14298768) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    I'm glad they bust the cake. Something else for them to talk about apart from the bloody chandelier and how perfect they all want it to be

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    Posted by mademoiselledecompost (U14526349) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    I'm furious that the cake is smashed. All Clarrie's hard work is unappreciated by Airhead Caroline. I think Clarrie's new job should be making cakes. Another stupid unhilarious storyline.

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    Posted by MsMumbo-Jumbo (U3613133) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    I already had visions of Old Joe's mucus mingling with the iced violets oh the kin cake the way he was wheezing over it anyway, Fi. No big loss then.
    I did wonder what it was that Cazza slipped on in the kitchen as well.. Something green and slimey at a guess.
    That old man wants putting away.
    MJ

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    Posted by Fi of little faith (U14298768) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    Indeed. In my relief at not hearing another perfect or purrrfaact I was also disgusted that Clarrie would not be told immediately so she could have a decision in the best way to go about a repair job

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    Posted by MsMumbo-Jumbo (U3613133) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    The only people who dont go down with the squits at the wedding will be those lucky enuff to have eaten the sponge tier., madame.
    Eat a cake made by Clarray?
    I don't think so.
    MJ

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  • Message 6

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    Posted by Feral_Ralph (U2333894) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    I'd have helped Cazza clean herself up. Sadly Joe was coughing and wheezing over boxed cake rather than the icing and when he brought all three in at once it was as if in a dream i realised we were in for cake misadventure. Me I'd have preferred to hear Peggoi trip over the other cat.

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by Fi of little faith (U14298768) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    But mumbs, they are whisking away the sponge layer (the only edible one) so no-one will notice that Grey Gables is running a kitchen that would be condemned by Health and Safety. Caroline will "guide" them.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    It was unforgiveable of Ian to suggest that he replace the broken tier of the cake with a substitute that was not the same and which would immediately be noticed.

    Not telling Clarrie what had happened is not acceptable, and my opinion of Caroline has sunk to a new low.

    An apology and offers of help would have been in order, but not this high-handed rubbish.

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by mademoiselledecompost (U14526349) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    I like Clarrie's cake and I wish it hadn't been smashed. Give the poor woman a break, I just hope I receive a piece of this cake in the post in a little silver and blue box.

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by Purple_Hay (U14319650) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    So the chandelier was a red herring.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    OK

    Ian can make a quick sponge cake, and it will be window dressing for the brunch.

    THEN

    When Boring and Boringer are on their marmitemoon, Ian can make a proper fruitcake and pay Clarrie to ice it, can't he?

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by mademoiselledecompost (U14526349) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    OK

    Ian can make a quick sponge cake, and it will be window dressing for the brunch.

    THEN

    When Boring and Boringer are on their marmitemoon, Ian can make a proper fruitcake and pay Clarrie to ice it, can't he?  
    That's a great idea Dinah and hopefully it will lead Clarrie on to her new career as a cakemaker.

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Rwth of the Cornovii (U2570790) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    I hope they will fess up to someone, probably Clarrie after the wedding, so that if she wants to, she will be able to make another one for the Christening if there is one.

    There is no danger of any infection from the cake because Clarrie has been making them for years without mishap, and she recovered from the e.coli attack at least 4 months ago. Maybe she will have an enterprise of making cakes for them and I hope she will. Joe is extremely fond of her and will have been very careful with the driving.

    The chandelier is quite another matter. How could they not notice that it was a red herring? It would be a bit obvious, hanging there in a posh hotel you might think.

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by Fi of little faith (U14298768) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    "I hope they will fess up to someone, probably Clarrie after the wedding"

    After the wedding is too late. Damage done. She made the "centrepiece" and made it with love and pride. Her work matters for nothing apparently

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by Rwth of the Cornovii (U2570790) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    What were they supposed to do? leave the wreck at the top and spoil the effect for everyone. Clarrie will know it isn't hers, but she'll keep quiet. I expect Caroline, will notice that she has seen and will take her aside for a quiet explanation and apology. Maybe Iain will make her an offer of cake decorating work. I don't know but I hope there was a clue in the remark "Cake decorating is special to the decorator".

    I made a cake and decorated it very simply for friends for their wedding. I was just saying what I would have preferred to happen if it was me. When my sister made a cake for DDs wedding and DD asked a friend of the family to decorate it, she cried. She had decorated my wedding cake too. The friend I mean. Sister was happy just to have made the cake. It is a joy to make something beautiful out of love. Just doing it is a pleasure. If it brings the recipient pleasure, that's good enough, and the other two tiers escaped unharmed. As long as everything goes well on the day, that's the main thing.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    Fi, I absolutely agree. They are deliberately cutting her out of the one thing she has done for the Big Day.

    The thing for them to do is to confess to Clarrie and suggest to her that either she makes a replacement or they do and she ices it. Ian probably can't do icing to her pattern as well as she does it herself, nor as quickly.

    Why can't she make a single fruit cake in a day? Do fruit cakes have to stand for three days? Do they take hours longer to cool, or something?

    According to recipe sites it should be "ready in six hours" if you make one of the larger cakes, so less than that for the smallest tier I would have thought, and Clarrie can surely do this if she were told in time.

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by MsMumbo-Jumbo (U3613133) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    Fruit cakes have to be hung.
    I thought everybody knew that.
    MJ

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by Burberry (U14785386) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    It's Caroline that should be hung!
    Poor Clarrie is from the 'lower orders' and therefore doesn't get the
    opportunity to say what should be done to remedy the damage.

    Caroline (higher orders) makes the decision without even *thinking*
    of consulting the actual person whose hard work and skill - not to
    mention love - made the cake.

    Badly done, Cazza

    Ian, of course, just wants to please his boss. A bit wish-washy is Ian ...

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    I don't think so .. they don't want to hurt her. I think they *are* thinking of her feelings ..

    Difficult to know what to do in the circumstances. Caroline slipped on the wet floor - cleaned after Joe had tramped over it.

    A fresh fruit cake would be very crumbly and may not cut well - may not take the marzipan and icing either .. a professional cake maker would tell us.

    Clarrie would be devastated if she found out - not possible to do anything about it
    JPBS

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Burberry (U14785386) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    JPBS ... I think fruit cakes *do* need to rest, for a few days or more,
    after baking, and prior to icing. Where is Delia when we need her?!

    Thinking about it a second time, yes Clarrie would certainly be
    devastated if her cake were damaged. Could be she even sees it as a bit of a 'redemption' for her sacking from BF, in addition to being a labour of love for Will and Nic.

    I really hope Caroline and Ian can create something to save the day,
    and more importantly, that Clarrie is not hurt.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by SredniVashtar07 (U9755761) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    It was Ians reaction that was most sick making !

    Ha Ha Ha the peasants cake is broken !

    Why do we have to tolerate this character ?



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  • Message 22

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    Posted by Scarlett the Harlot (U14540168) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Indeed. In my relief at not hearing another perfect or purrrfaact I was also disgusted that Clarrie would not be told immediately so she could have a decision in the best way to go about a repair job 

    I was annoyed by that too Fi. How dare they make a unilateral decision to put a bloody sponge on the top layer and not tell anyone. Who do they think they are?!

    I would have phoned Clarrie, apologised profusely and asked her if she wanted to come up to GG and with Ian's help make a replacement. Do Caroline and Ian not realise that the cake was a labour of love for Clarrie?

    What a couple of arrogant briefcasing barstewards. I am very much NOT hearing Ian and Caroline.

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    [I think fruit cakes *do* need to rest, for a few days or more,
    after baking, and prior to icing. Where is Delia when we need her]

    I'm not Delia but I'm happy to state that one can eat a fruit cake any old time , as soon as its cooled from the oven if you want to, and no one die and the world will not crash in. It might not taste as good as it would if its been left to mature for a bit, preferably being occasionally infused with something alcoholic. But no one cares what wedding cake tastes like, no one actually wants a lump of cake at the wedding, most of it gets taken home in dinky cardboard boxes if you are posh or wrapped in a paper serviette if you aren't, so it wouldn't matter that the layer Ian made wasn't the bestest fruit cake ever.

    What does matter is that we have been fed yet another stupid, childish, obvious, pathetic, storyline from scriptwriters who presumably have run out of original, creative, inventive, ideas, or who just can't be bothered to come up with them.

    And yes I know its a soap, I know it isn't Shakespeare or Chekhov, but there is a limit to how much dross they can expect to get away with even on a soap and this reached it.


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  • Message 24

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    And to clarify the icing issue, as long as the cake is covered well in marzipan you can ice it immediately its cooled completely, as the marzipan is there as a barrier layer between any seepage from the cake and the icing. I know, I've done it, and it works.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    And in any case they talked about removing the top tier first so by the time anyone came to eat it (hopefully never if it's kept for a christening) if it didn't taste particularly alcoholic or moist people would put it down to not very good keeping.

    And even if people ate it on the same day and it wasn't as good as the older bits some people would enjoy their cake and others not. Rather less detectable than a sponge cake.

    I agree esp with Scarlett @ msg 22. Ian and Caroline are mega thoughtless and mega stupid. They obviously haven't read all the stories about people trying to cover up mistakes and coming to a sticky end. This SL strikes me as the prod team trying out a sub Blandings plot. But unfortunately they don't have PG Wodehouse's talent for comedy.

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    [This SL strikes me as the prod team trying out a sub Blandings plot. But unfortunately they don't have PG Wodehouse's talent for comedy.]

    Oh what an excellent summation Cath. Says it all.

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by Rose Sal Volatile Parade (U4705648) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    That's an excellent solution Dinah, but it involves telling Clarrie what had happened.

    I agree with others here that it's ridiculous and wrong that they didn't agree to get on the blower immediately to let Clarrie know what had happened and include her in the discussion about what to do. It's her right. She owns the cake, not them.

    When she finds out she should sue. One day, one afternoon, the lower orders of this village should turn on their patronising, dishonest, silly betters. Let it be this day, to start 2012 off nicely.

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by maggiesaes (U2771771) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    I'm furious that the cake is smashed. All Clarrie's hard work is unappreciated by Airhead Caroline. I think Clarrie's new job should be making cakes. Another stupid unhilarious storyline.  EXACTLY!!
    And didn't you just KNOW it was going to happen with all the 'Be careful....,mind how you do....you shouldn't have tried to carry it all..It's so beautiful.'

    It is all SO prdictable these days isn't it?

    Yes another 'comedy' ecomes well short of the mark..

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Totally with pollyanna and cath ref cake repair.

    FGS, they've got a major kitchen, Ian is a professional chef, and they can't put together a fruit cake in time??? Stuff and nonsense, and as pollyanna says, marzipan + icing is perfectly viable. Total cobblers.

    You get the feeling that no-one in that SWs and production teams has the first idea how to cook, but if you write a script for an epi that includes as a major strand the operations of a professional chef, the biggest hotel kitchen for miles, it might just be that they'd know a thing or two about how to repair discreetly and effectively and on time.

    Complete Junk. But then I looked who was doing the writing and it all suddenly became clear.

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    But a fruit cake takes *time* to cook - 2-3 hours - and longer to prepare as well compared with a sponge. Yes they are a big kitchen but even big kitchens may not have all the necessary ingredients - when would Ian use - say - glace cherries and candied peel?

    And it isn't the kind of fruit cake which can be cooled down and eaten over a cuppa - it is part of a three tier cake and has to hold together as such.

    Is honesty always the best policy in this case ...?

    Let's hope though that this rather clunky plot device brings better things to Clarrie
    JPBS

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by Beastmistress (U15072513) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    As someone who made a 3 tier wedding cake (my first one ever!) for my lovely stepson and his bride just a few weeks ago - I can tell you that NO-ONE was allowed to handle that precious cake other than me!

    This includes taking it to the venue and erecting it 'in-situ' on the actual day.

    I can't see that Clarrie would have let anyone else transport/store/handle her cakes - I certainly wouldn't!

    Oh - and the wedding was wonderful (thanks for asking) - we had no problems with cake, chandeliers or herrings smiley - smiley

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    >even big kitchens may not have all the necessary ingredients - <

    Even big kitchens have to be stocked up and the shops were open yesterday and today.

    The cake was smashed on Friday afternoon. The wedding is on Sunday am. They had around 40 hours to sort something out - even if it was a phone call to Clarrie and agreement that she would knock up a fresh tier. I bet it didn't take Clarrie 40 hours to make cook and ice 3 tiers!

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Ian would use glacee cherries, candid peel nuts etc for his Special Florentines, to compliment/complement his Special Shortbread (almost as good as Duchess Originals, we are told).

    Also for the sppecial Christmas cakes.

    And the Knickerbocker glory in the Alternative Xmas Lunch for Kidz menu.

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by hiya_loxley (U2274305) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    < And didn't you just KNOW it was going to happen with all the 'Be careful....,mind how you do....you shouldn't have tried to carry it all..It's so beautiful.' >

    Call me a naive fool, but I guessed from all the warnings that she would manage NOT to drop it.

    But when it did drop I knew instantly that rather than telling Clarrie what had happened and discussing what to do about it they would jump straight to hatching a plan - lying to their customer and waiting nervously to see if they'd get away with it.

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    It was boringly inevitable that something would happen to the dratted cake. The sws have pulled out all the stops to mention this dull wedding every day.

    Why do they think it is interesting?

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    < What does matter is that we have been fed yet another stupid, childish, obvious, pathetic, storyline from scriptwriters who presumably have run out of original, creative, inventive, ideas, or who just can't be bothered to come up with them. >

    Here, here, Polly!

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by MsMumbo-Jumbo (U3613133) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Amen to that.

    I am sure glace cherries are a staple of the Nouvelle Cuisine de Chateau Gables Grises buffets du fingers.
    Sliced in half and placed in the middle of a well-sugared half grapefruit.

    Anyway, as we now know that Moody works single-handed in the kitchen and is impossibly overworked Cazza could have shifted her fat cake encrusted arse and driven into Borchester and bought a shop cake (possibly at post-Christmas discount) at M&S.

    I am hoping this is the SL that will shake Ambridge to the core for all of two episodes, however.
    Wilyerm was doing his pieces and all for calling off the wedding for lack of two crystals on the ruddy shanderleeeeeah. Wait til he spots the deliberate cake mismatch.

    HE IS GOING TO GO APE I TELL YOU.

    Suddenly the future looks bright.
    MJ

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Thank you for the information from experience, Beastmistress, and welcome to the board if you are new here.

    I'm glad the wedding *you* made the cake for wasn't marred by idiots tossing bits of cake around and jumping on it.

    I had been wondering what possessed Clarrie, who is unemployed and therefore has plenty of time to do these thngs herself, to allow Joe to carry her precious creation around. I suppose she couldn't have stopped Caroline from doing her amateur cake-juggling act, but what was the cake doing in the kitchen at all? It should have been taken stright to the room where it was to be eaten, and left there, and if the room was in use between now and the wedding, then the cake ought not to have been taken to Grey Gables until the room was free.

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Hadn't thought of that, Mumbers - bring it on ...

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Yes - quite right. Of course Clarrie would have insisted on assembling it herself and yes it would have gone to the room where the reception took place. For why assemble it in the kitchen *then* transport it to the reception ..?

    As to when it happened - I thought it was quite late in the day - say 6pm - when Joe transported it ..

    A silly plot device to have Joe involved at all .. if they wanted the cake to be damaged (for reasons known only to themselves) there are many other ways of it happening ..
    JPBS

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by PhyllisDoris (U2224329) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    I can't see that Clarrie would have let anyone else transport/store/handle her cakes - I certainly wouldn't! 

    That's a very good point, Beastmistress.

    What could Clarrie possibly have been doing that meant she was unavailable, and willing to trust a ninety-year old afflicted with farmer's lung with her precious handiwork?

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  • Message 42

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Carola TAUGHT the helpless Clarrie how to cook, when Clarrie was a "treasure" who couldn't cook at Brookfield, didn't she?

    Why Car can't hop to M&S, or make a quick cake herself, god knows.

    larrie and Nic made it with 3 squeaking kidz around them. Shouldn't be beyond C to make a simple cake, for gods sake.

    Very, very silly story.

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    You get the feeling that no-one in that SWs and production teams has the first idea how to cook, but if you write a script for an epi that includes as a major strand the operations of a professional chef, the biggest hotel kitchen for miles, it might just be that they'd know a thing or two about how to repair discreetly and effectively and on time.  
    That's how a surprising amount of us feel about this years equestrian story-lines.

    This thread in N+Qs distils about 9 months of feeling that the SWs are making it up as they go along, and thinking that we're prats for daring to suggest that they might not be right.

    Freddie's rising trot. Are the SWs having a laugh?
    www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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  • Message 44

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    Posted by hiya_loxley (U2274305) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    < Clarrie and Nic made it with 3 squeaking kidz around them. Shouldn't be beyond C to make a simple cake, for gods sake. >

    But we'd all have missed out on a hilarious storyline - they break the cake, pop in a replacement and then the tension mounts as we all hope nobody notices. Umhh...

    Shades of Eddie Grundy and Ruth's precious vase!

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  • Message 45

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    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Siobhan's precious Ruskin vase, surely?

    Ruth's Rubbish teapot.

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by soobeesomewhere_or_other_soon (U14156736) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Having clumsily dropped and squashed the ruddy cake, it is unthinkable not to come clean immediately, grovel to Clarrie and discuss the best way to put things as right as possible. I think Mumbers' idea of a M&S cake, cut to size would be best.
    But, most of all, Caroline's high-handed sweeping under the carpet attitude stank. Go on, Caro, get up those ladders right now and give that chandeler one last polish. Then I can push you off for a perfect New Year's treat.
    Soo

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  • Message 47

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    Posted by maggiesaes (U2771771) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    < Clarrie and Nic made it with 3 squeaking kidz around them. Shouldn't be beyond C to make a simple cake, for gods sake. >

    But we'd all have missed out on a hilarious storyline - they break the cake, pop in a replacement and then the tension mounts as we all hope nobody notices. Umhh...

    Shades of Eddie Grundy and Ruth's precious vase! 
    Hliarious??
    Not in this house.
    By the time the big day arrives I shall be all 'weddinged' out I've heard so much about it.
    I think the cake would have been deliverd on the morning of the wedding and not before.

    It's a ridiculous slao stick juvenile storyline

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  • Message 48

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    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    But the M and S cake wouldn't necessarily fit as a top tier would it?

    Ian *is* making a simple cake - best for him to do it than Caro?

    A fruit cake - just made - may not hang together.. and be stable as part of the ensemble ..

    ... and wouldn't the marzipan `leach' through the icing?
    JPBS

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  • Message 49

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    Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    The cake being, as a previous poster pointed out, not GGs property, and Nic and Will being bona-fide paying customers, there'd be legal (and publicity) consequences for trying to hide their damage to someone else's cake and messing up.

    I'm sure something fortuitous will happen in the nick (Sorry) of time, though.

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  • Message 50

    , in reply to message 47.

    Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Saturday, 31st December 2011

    Normally on the morning of the wedding - yes.

    But they are marrying very early aren't they?

    Possibly Clarrie wants it out of the house and - er - safe ..
    JPBS

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