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  • Message 101

    , in reply to message 99.

    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Thursday, 1st December 2011

    < I am so sorry for poor old bluddy Tony though. >

    So do I.

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  • Message 102

    , in reply to message 101.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Thursday, 1st December 2011

    anna

    Tony's is the real and lasting collateral tragic damage in all this for my money.

    Pessimist he may be as many farmers are, and none more so than one in the hard graft of the organic biz and also surrounded by three family members all totally certain of their own right to be treated as important above all others and who are never ever wrong either, Tony has, in the last eighteen months, given Pat the best advice in both the TC and Magickal Babe episode and now this, and on BOTH occasions, absolutely critical to the future health of the family and their relationship, he has been slapped down by her all-consuming desire and over-weaning urge to be a granny.

    She has let him nowhere to go on this issue. He knows her well enough to be able to calculate the terrible long-lasting effect this crisis will have, no matter whether Rich is John's son or not, how it is handled, Sharon's reaction, Eammon's reaction, TC and SLT's reactions. It is a deep running sore that will gnaw at her from now on. It will come up regularly on every one of John's birth dates from now on. It will simply blight their lives in retirement etc.

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  • Message 103

    , in reply to message 101.

    Posted by MsMumbo-Jumbo (U3613133) on Thursday, 1st December 2011

    I used to be.
    Not any more.
    He has always been supine in the face of the three egomaniacs he has helped create.
    Serves him right

    Suck it up Tony.
    MJ

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  • Message 104

    , in reply to message 103.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Thursday, 1st December 2011

    You're a hard man, Ms MJ, a hard man.

    As it were.

    You make VW look like a doormat.

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  • Message 105

    , in reply to message 99.

    Posted by SteveKills (U14949122) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Possibly not enough zumba - I've been banned until my hamstring is better.

    I did feel a momentary pang for Helen, and thought Tom sounded very reasonable. This is not a good thing and I suspect normal service will be resumed shortly.

    However it is a measure of Formerly Welsh Pat's bonkersness that everyone else is sounded normal.

    I am so sorry for poor old bluddy Tony though.

    Dx 
    Zumba will be the bluddy death of you at your time of life.

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  • Message 106

    , in reply to message 105.

    Posted by Feral_Ralph (U2333894) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    On the other hand listening to Fallon, Emma, Debbie and Cazza doing Zumba in the Village Hall might be the death of me.

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  • Message 107

    , in reply to message 103.

    Posted by Borrowed Time (U14261253) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Too much Mumbers. Moanie is a Prince amongst Men. He puts me in mind of a Thomas Hardy character, forced to live a life of utter misery, put upon by the rest of the world.

    He is the only heroic figure in Ambridge and we should errect a statue to him on the top of Lakey Hill (a statue which would collapse natch).

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  • Message 108

    , in reply to message 107.

    Posted by JacksParakeetBeingDe-Nested (U2979858) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    I think the statue should be erected, admired by all present for a few moments, and then run over by a vintage Massey driven by Johnboy shouting

    "That's for my Dad, loser!"

    At least he'd die happy..

    jp

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  • Message 109

    , in reply to message 107.

    Posted by SteveKills (U14949122) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Sorry BT, I don't buy this. Tony is both jealous and vindictive. His schadenfreude over anything that goes wrong for his brother in law is the behaviour of a narrow minded loser.

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  • Message 110

    , in reply to message 100.

    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    stoic, feral, stoic? excusay moi, but by definition , surely, stoics dont moan. and moany tony has been moaning for the last 35 years or whatever. i cant stand the entire family. and i particularly shout at radio when tony does that 'yeah yeah yeah ' business. which he does every other flipping sentence that he utters it seems to me. yrs, obviously overdoing the mid morning caffeine, irene.

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  • Message 111

    , in reply to message 109.

    Posted by Borrowed Time (U14261253) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Of course he's a loser. This is part of his charm and what would make him such a splendid addition to a Thomas Hardy novel. Would Tony Hancock or Basil Fawly have been funny if their plans in life worked? Would anybodt remember Hamlet if he had inherited the throne and lived happily ever after? Moanie's misfortunes, heaped heavily on his narrow shoulders make hism the heroic figure for our age

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  • Message 112

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by chris murray (U3149163) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    About Pat's current extreme bonkerness and intransigence about Rich (and by golly last night she got even worse, no consideration at all for Tony's feelings let alone those of an adolescent boy) is that it will ssip (anag) off the SLT and the Cheesestraw big time/

    Every cloud has a silver lining.  
    Wot do ssip/SLT mean?

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  • Message 113

    , in reply to message 111.

    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    how about, bt , if tony takes his hardy like character a bit further, and sells pat at the next village show. . that will rid of us one of the ghastly bunch, at least.

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  • Message 114

    , in reply to message 112.

    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    ssip is an anagram (as said in the post)
    Followed by 'off' it's a fairly common expression, I'm sure you'll work it out.
    SLT is Snarty Little Twonk, a description of Tom coined in here by someone (sorry, no idea who)

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  • Message 115

    , in reply to message 102.

    Posted by chris murray (U3149163) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    anna

    Tony's is the real and lasting collateral tragic damage in all this for my money.

    Pessimist he may be as many farmers are, and none more so than one in the hard graft of the organic biz and also surrounded by three family members all totally certain of their own right to be treated as important above all others and who are never ever wrong either, Tony has, in the last eighteen months, given Pat the best advice in both the TC and Magickal Babe episode and now this, and on BOTH occasions, absolutely critical to the future health of the family and their relationship, he has been slapped down by her all-consuming desire and over-weaning urge to be a granny.

    She has let him nowhere to go on this issue. He knows her well enough to be able to calculate the terrible long-lasting effect this crisis will have, no matter whether Rich is John's son or not, how it is handled, Sharon's reaction, Eammon's reaction, TC and SLT's reactions. It is a deep running sore that will gnaw at her from now on. It will come up regularly on every one of John's birth dates from now on. It will simply blight their lives in retirement etc.  
    TC?

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  • Message 116

    , in reply to message 113.

    Posted by SteveKills (U14949122) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    I think this is a splendid suggestion Irene, although I rather think that the Cheese Straw with ye Magyckal babe tied to her arm by some coarse rope would evoke more pathos (and indeed delight!)

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  • Message 117

    , in reply to message 114.

    Posted by chris murray (U3149163) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    ssip is an anagram (as said in the post)
    Followed by 'off' it's a fairly common expression, I'm sure you'll work it out.
    SLT is Snarty Little Twonk, a description of Tom coined in here by someone (sorry, no idea who)  
    Hee hee!! I like Snarky Little Twonk!!

    I'd forgotten what an anagram was!!

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  • Message 118

    , in reply to message 116.

    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    yes good idea, squire. mind you, thinking about it, would there actually be any bidders. ?

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  • Message 119

    , in reply to message 118.

    Posted by SteveKills (U14949122) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    yes good idea, squire. mind you, thinking about it, would there actually be any bidders. ?  True but at least, amongst the thousands who packed into the new market, there might be someone who didn't know the Thin Controller's reputation.

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  • Message 120

    , in reply to message 115.

    Posted by chris murray (U3149163) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    TC? Tony's cough? Tom's cat? Tractor crush?

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  • Message 121

    , in reply to message 120.

    Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    A clue, think Helens eating disorder and the human from Thomas the Tank Engine.

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  • Message 122

    , in reply to message 120.

    Posted by The Famous But Disillusioned with the BBC Eccles (U219998) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Thin Controller, I believe!

    Roy ; )

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  • Message 123

    , in reply to message 120.

    Posted by Dinah Shore (U14984316) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Thin Controller

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  • Message 124

    , in reply to message 121.

    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    good heavens, carrick, i have just typed the very name 'thomas the tank engine' over in the bull. whats the chances of that happening.

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  • Message 125

    , in reply to message 124.

    Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Almost infinitesimally small, Irene, seeing as I have never written it i a post here before, and we are, I think, both known for our non-standard interests and vocabularies.

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  • Message 126

    , in reply to message 117.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    TC = Thin Controller = Helen following her control freakery in many earlier SLs..

    Helen was an anorexic and used it to blackmail others into submission.

    Based wittily of course on the Rev Audry's deathless 'Fat Controller' from Thomas the Tank Engine series.

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  • Message 127

    , in reply to message 1.

    Posted by cat_lady (U2262333) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    I do so hope that all those people who have posted derogatory remarks about Pat and her state of mind have/will never ever lost/lose a child. That surely must be one life event that you never, and rightly, recover from completely. Were it me in Pat's position, I should probably be far less rational and far more obsessive. Well done on the storyline. c/lx

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  • Message 128

    , in reply to message 126.

    Posted by The Famous But Disillusioned with the BBC Eccles (U219998) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Perhaps the SWs will pinch another plot from the Thomas the Tank Engine stories. Henry was walled up in a tunnel for being a naughty engine...

    Roy ; )

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  • Message 129

    , in reply to message 127.

    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    cat lady, theres at least one poster, to my knowledge, who has a lost a child and is pretty appalled by pats behavior. so you never know about folk, do you.

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  • Message 130

    , in reply to message 129.

    Posted by SteveKills (U14949122) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    You can add me to that list, Irene.

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  • Message 131

    , in reply to message 130.

    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    never knew that, squire.

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  • Message 132

    , in reply to message 131.

    Posted by SteveKills (U14949122) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Indeed. But I am not one to share personal stuff on these pages as they are certainly not intended for it. It is just when people like cat-lady come out with a potted lecture about what people should or should not do in reaction to fictional events on TA that I think it necessary.

    So there we are. 'Nuff said.

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  • Message 133

    , in reply to message 132.

    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    yes my approach is same, squire. dont do serious personal stuff. fine with others doing so. but have been told quite a few times that i havent experienced this that or the other entirely due to my more light hearted stance to serious storylines. when i actually have in real life. hey ho.

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  • Message 134

    , in reply to message 133.

    Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    well it IS a tough job wearing that crown 24/7.

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  • Message 135

    , in reply to message 132.

    Posted by Fi of little faith (U14298768) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Well, quite, Squire. Its bad enough in here with Dusty banging on about Zumba, Sharpers proclaiming not to like gin very much and that other one constantly moaning about her history with nuns

    xxx

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  • Message 136

    , in reply to message 133.

    Posted by DracoM1 (U14252039) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    The huge difference here is the way Pat is NOW behaving.

    Grief for the death of a child is inconsolable in many ways, but that is not an excuse to bust up other people's lives in an attempt to use them through which to seek solace.

    No-one would grudge or resent Pat's sense of loss and misery over John's death. However, it is surely an entirely different thing to even think of doing what she has repeatedly said to Tony she wishes to do, namely contact this 13 yr old 'Rich' via Sharon as a way of "healing the family" and keeping her John alive, and calling it all a miracle.

    Sorry, I find language like that very troublingly unbalanced and really does not work for me at all.

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  • Message 137

    , in reply to message 105.

    Posted by Dusty Substances (U1474929) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Possibly not enough zumba - I've been banned until my hamstring is better.

    I did feel a momentary pang for Helen, and thought Tom sounded very reasonable. This is not a good thing and I suspect normal service will be resumed shortly.

    However it is a measure of Formerly Welsh Pat's bonkersness that everyone else is sounded normal.

    I am so sorry for poor old bluddy Tony though.

    Dx 
    Zumba will be the bluddy death of you at your time of life. 
    If I was still speaking to you after that remark I would ask where my novelty pencil sharpener is.

    Dx

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  • Message 138

    , in reply to message 114.

    Posted by Dusty Substances (U1474929) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    It was me.

    Dx

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  • Message 139

    , in reply to message 137.

    Posted by SteveKills (U14949122) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Impounded along with all the others at Oporto airport on way through customs. 50+ Birmingham City supporters so drunk they could barely stand perfectly acceptable on flight to Gatwick. 10 pencil sharpeners in shape of Belem Tower snatched.

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  • Message 140

    , in reply to message 136.

    Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    No-one would grudge or resent Pat's sense of loss and misery over John's death. However, it is surely an entirely different thing to even think of doing what she has repeatedly said to Tony she wishes to do, namely contact this 13 yr old 'Rich' via Sharon as a way of "healing the family" and keeping her John alive, and calling it all a miracle. 

    That is a cut and paste job.

    She only said "healing the family" when challenged; not has her basic plan.

    And she has not said she will insist on contacting Rich; just that she wants to speak to Sharon. Which I would certainly do in the circumstances, and can hardly believe anyone would not.

    What to do next depends on what the circumstances are. The only thing I would insist on is that he be told his true origins eventually.

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  • Message 141

    , in reply to message 139.

    Posted by Dusty Substances (U1474929) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    My daughter had a wobbly tooth at Oporto airport.

    Anyhow.

    Where were we? Prestatyn?

    Dx

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  • Message 142

    , in reply to message 133.

    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    irene I know I should take a leaf out of your totally sensible book and try not to do personal stuff here and I wish I hadn't but hey ho, still get people like cat woman saying no one who thinks Pat is behaving like a picnic short of a sandwich could possibly have been through what she has, so it seems it makes no odds what one posts as 'supporting evidence', some people just love making assumptions about other posters and who am I to resent them having fun.

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  • Message 143

    , in reply to message 142.

    Posted by SteveKills (U14949122) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Prestatyn is a good place to be, Dusters. pat, Sossidge Boy, TC and Bapper all locked up in the secure family wing while Magyckal Babe's West Indian father steps forward to claim him and Tone, wailing, moaning and generally being gutless decides not to move in with Sandy the Tractor Groupie but rent a bed sit on Prestatyn seafront until his entirely deranged family are released back into the community.

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  • Message 144

    , in reply to message 139.

    Posted by La Sharpissima (U1476061) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    Impounded along with all the others at Oporto airport on way through customs. 50+ Birmingham City supporters so drunk they could barely stand perfectly acceptable on flight to Gatwick. 10 pencil sharpeners in shape of Belem Tower snatched.  Fibber.

    I bet fifty TEAS (if they are still going, they have not been mentioned for a long time) that you never bought any and that you are blaming blameless footie supporters for the fact that you are a meany.

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  • Message 145

    , in reply to message 142.

    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    dont see why any supporting evidence is required, poll! we dont come on here to explain ourselves to anyone. well i dont anyway!

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  • Message 146

    , in reply to message 136.

    Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    The huge difference here is the way Pat is NOW behaving.

    Grief for the death of a child is inconsolable in many ways, but that is not an excuse to bust up other people's lives in an attempt to use them through which to seek solace.

    No-one would grudge or resent Pat's sense of loss and misery over John's death. However, it is surely an entirely different thing to even think of doing what she has repeatedly said to Tony she wishes to do, namely contact this 13 yr old 'Rich' via Sharon as a way of "healing the family" and keeping her John alive, and calling it all a miracle.

    Sorry, I find language like that very troublingly unbalanced and really does not work for me at all.  
    Nor me. It suggests that at the very least she's got unrealistic expectations of how everything's going to work out. And such things don't always.

    If the BF farm meet Rich, he, or Kylie may know how they treated Sharon, and he and or she may find it difficult to reconcile with them now falling over themselves to welcome him.

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  • Message 147

    , in reply to message 136.

    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Friday, 2nd December 2011

    agreed, Dracs.

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  • Message 148

    , in reply to message 145.

    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Saturday, 3rd December 2011

    Of course irene. I suppose I meant 'supporting evidence' as in backing up a point of view with something more than 'well I think....'. A sort of: 'well I wouldn't behave like Pat, and here's why I know I wouldn't...'.

    Oh gawd this is getting far too deep. Think I'll stick to wondering if Henry being purfekt entails a halo and little fluffy wings and if they are the reason he can't get his balance when he tries to walk.

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  • Message 149

    , in reply to message 144.

    Posted by SteveKills (U14949122) on Saturday, 3rd December 2011

    Impounded along with all the others at Oporto airport on way through customs. 50+ Birmingham City supporters so drunk they could barely stand perfectly acceptable on flight to Gatwick. 10 pencil sharpeners in shape of Belem Tower snatched.  Fibber.

    I bet fifty TEAS (if they are still going, they have not been mentioned for a long time) that you never bought any and that you are blaming blameless footie supporters for the fact that you are a meany. 
    Well of course I didn't buy any presents! But the foopbore fans were just sooooo tedious and spised out of their tiny minds.

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