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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Perkin Warbeck is not a cannibal (U14797366) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    what's happening?

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  • Message 2

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    Posted by Torch_Brookfield (U14919119) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    Because she's clearly rather common & if someone does start a thread I shall make a point of boycottiing it.

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    Posted by Pahnda (U14681704) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    Nobody interested in Tracy, any reason we should be? I can't think of one.

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    I think we may be all Horrobinned out.

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    Posted by Perkin Warbeck is not a cannibal (U14797366) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    Was I listening to a special epi, only for me?

    Or was I listening to the archers in my head?

    Tracys come to stay with the kids! Surely that should provoke at least one post?

    Yes, I know there has been a surplus of 'the horror, the horrorbins' but surely not everyone out there is that jaded? surely?

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  • Message 6

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    Posted by JacksParakeetBeingDe-Nested (U2979858) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    I can't recall Tracey figuring in any SLs during my relatively few listening years. Has she been a major figure before?

    jp

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by Pahnda (U14681704) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    Apart from Susan and the occasional misdemeanour by Clive, we've managed without hearing Horrobins for 60 years, but now we are expected to embrace all things Horrobin. I think we are not buying it.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by jane c (U2234970) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    Yes, Perkin, it was a bit of a "turn up for the books"

    But, as has been pointed out, we listeners just may be a bit Horrobin-weary at the moment.

    Of course, the obvious solution to Tracy's immediate dilemma will be for her to move in with her grief-ridden, lazy Dad.
    Which will solve quite few problems. Or not.

    Whatever, I sense a Nother underwhelming SL in the wings.

    Christmas is gonna be luvly, innit

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Ivor Hereford-Bull (U2222879) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    We had a horror bin. A jet washer and a dash of Jeyes fluid soon put it right. Come on SWs, let's see you deal with yours in a similaly efficient manner.

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by Pahnda (U14681704) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    Good point jane, problem solved for Susan.

    How old is Tracy? I someone eg Harry, Jazzer, Tom going to 'have a thing' for her?

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by maisiepusscat (U11889543) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    Didn't Tracy work for Pat and then, when Helen came back from college armed with stupendous management skills, was promoted above Clarrie? Or was that someone else?

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by A Frend (U2249422) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    I think we may be all Horrobinned out. 
    Ain't that the truth. If I never hear another one it'll be too soon.

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    It was indeed Tracy (for that is how she was spelt in all reference works previous to the "Who's who?" pages on this site) who was promoted over Clarrie at the dairy, by foolish Helen and on the basis of a CV written for her by Susan. She drove the regular worker Colin into handing in his notice, and smoked in the dairy.

    She was born in 1975, on 16th July.

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    Susan should send her off to the green - ivy and Bert raised six kids there there will be room for Tracy and hers.. and they can take care of Pa and the idiot boy.. Simples....

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by HtoHe (U2335032) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    message 8

    << Of course, the obvious solution to Tracy's immediate dilemma will be for her to move in with her grief-ridden, lazy Dad. >>

    First thing I thought, jane. And, for all we know, that's what Susan will suggest.

    << Which will solve quite few problems. Or not. >>

    Exactly, Tracy probably has enough on her plate without taking on two more children - Bert & Gary, Do we know much about Tracy's domestic standards. It could be she has tried to bring the children up decently and exposing them to the everyday behaviour of B&G - unconstrained by Ivy - is too awful to contemplate. Or maybe 6, The Green hasn't got enough room to accommodate them.

    If she stays, of course, Susan will tremble every time the doorbell rings. Is it Clive? Oh, no; it's only Den!



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  • Message 16

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    Posted by jillscasseroling to save Mustardland (U13781458) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    As far as I'm aware, Tracy and Den have two marvellously named children - Brad and Chelsee* - who tire her out endlessly hence her unability to help with Bert/Gary since the demise of Ivy. At least we know the tardis-like property on The Green will have space to support them all!

    * well, this is how /I/ spell it following on from Strictly but who knows?!

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Almond_Aire (U2259917) on Wednesday, 23rd November 2011

    The only interesting thing I can remember about Tracy was that she went out with "Owen" for a bit before he had a personality change and became a strange creepy man.

    The SWs probably forgot all about that bit of history when they were reinventing him to attack Kathy.

    Alma.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by TheRealSportyGirl (U1723427) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    Well - I've just come home and LA and Tracey's appearance at the end of the epi cheered me up no end after a rather gloomy week.

    Bring on the Horrobins! Briefcasing-A!

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    [As far as I'm aware, Tracy and Den have two marvellously named children - Brad and Chelsee* - ]

    Yep, nearly as good as Shula and Kenton.

    I am dead common so I am happy to talk about Tacey. About how if anyone ever again goes on about how TAs isn't a soap I shall point to this storyline and laugh in a hollow way.

    Only in soaps do people turn up on other people's doorsteps with no prior notice, and intending to move in, . Not in these days of mobile phones they don't Strewth. If Tracey hasn't got a mobile - inconceivable - then Brad or Chelsee will have. Even if she thought Susan might say 'no' if she phoned, she would have phoned because if Susan really was adamant that they couldn't stay with her, she'd have to think of an alternative.

    I am not sure why its been decided to move the Horrobin family to centre stage. Maybe the programme makers are facing the grim reality that the older cast members are actually getting quite old. Maybe they don't think they will attract new audiences whilst concentrating the majority of storylines on the posh folk.

    Whatever, this whole Horrobin turn of events, from Ivy's suddenly being the Mum Susan loved so much when we never heard much of that when she was alive, to Pat and Rich, to Tracey's sudden arrival, is the stuff of soaps pure and simple. Not complaining, just saying.

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Heliganhoney (U14539107) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    I can't recall Tracey figuring in any SLs during my relatively few listening years. Has she been a major figure before?

    jp 
    The Hellqueen promoted her over Clarrie whilst Pat was recuperating at Prestatyn. Then the Horridbin created chaos at Lower Loxley.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by JacksParakeetBeingDe-Nested (U2979858) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    Thanks to Heliganhoney and others upthread who filled in the gaps in my knowledge. The collection of Horrobin SLs, individually and/ or collectively, may well SATTC more than the Archer tiffs andunfeasible farming SLs.

    Really looking forward to Christmas now! Will the Bull get trashed on Boxing Day?.....
    jp

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by JacksParakeetBeingDe-Nested (U2979858) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    Gold star, Chris, for such eagle-eyed scholarship (if a fish can be eagle-eyed, of course).

    jp

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by A Frend (U2249422) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    "I am not sure why its been decided to move the Horrobin family to centre stage. Maybe the programme makers are facing the grim reality that the older cast members are actually getting quite old. Maybe they don't think they will attract new audiences whilst concentrating the majority of storylines on the posh folk ..."

    They certainly won't get me with their low life characters either, Pollyanna. To make four people we've never heard anything from before the centre of Archers SLs is inartistic in the extreme. We now have Bert, Tracey, Kylie, Sharon and a litter of interchangeable worthless idiots (to say nothing of Rich) featuring mainstream in the soap. I don't give a flying fig for any of them and feel a vast sense of boredom at the prospect of the next few weeks.

    Tracey will sit around Pig Arc View moping, her children will be badly behaved and Susan will end up looking after two full households and getting run ragged. Pat will meet up and talk to on air Tracey, who will of course know Sharon and Rich intimately (unlike Susan who despite hosting them at a wedding a year ago professes not to have seen them for decades). Tracey will further inflame Pat's monomania by saying Rich isn't like anyone else in the family they know.

    I think I've done with TA for a while. I might give it a rest while they lance this boil.


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  • Message 24

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    Posted by siriol (U14748387) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    All too soapy for me - Tracy landing on Susan and poor Neil out of the blue like that. Do we really need more characters and SLs at the moment? There are so many loose ends and characters we hardly ever hear on air these days, as it is.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    [I think I've done with TA for a while. I might give it a rest while they lance this boil. ]

    Funnily enough I was thinking more or less that whilst listening last night, and that was before Tracey's late arrival. What caused me to finally accept that listening gave me more pain than a pleasure was Pat droning on about surnames (so also to do with the Horrobins I suppose). I am weiry already of her obsessive quest to prove this boy to be John's and its clear we are only at the start of it.

    Back to the Horrobins proper, I seriously do wonder if this is a move to change the axis of TAs from its centre of the middle class posh folk. Whilst of course David and Ruth will still be shoe horned in at every opportunity (as exampled at Clarrie and Eddie's do at the TB), perhaps the thinking is that newer audience might want a more balanced reflection of people who live in rural communities than hearing the doings of people who don't even speak with their regional accent, and I wouldn't have an issue with that.

    However I do have an issue with them rewriting history - I never realised Susan was so close to her Mum for example, that certainly never seemed obvious before Ivy's death, and for even more for apparently deciding that a dysfunctional family such as the Horrobins should represent the new 'realism'.

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by JacksParakeetBeingDe-Nested (U2979858) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    Are we heading for a pre-Christmas epi where Pat, Tony and Susan pitch up at Sharon's gaff with gold, frankincense and myrrh?

    Then we'd have two Magickal Babes!

    jp

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by jane c (U2234970) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    There are so many loose ends and characters we hardly ever hear on air these days, as it is.  


    Yes, exactly, siriol.

    And I wonder if the Ambridge Extra programme isn't to blame for this. Do the SWs work on the premiss that we are all up-to-speed on the SLs there?

    I've never listened and don't intend to. But when browsing around the other day I stumbled upon a reference to Clive and Matt, and to something about Alastair and Daniel's girlfriend.

    I can't be doing with parallel universes.


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  • Message 28

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    The great thing about parallel universes is that you are not expected to be in two at once: they are not mixed, like teas or the two soap operas about Ambridge characters.

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by A Frend (U2249422) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    We've got a box to tick with learning difficulties and Gary, Pollyanna so there's one reason of Horrobin mania. Funny no one mentioned it before though. All these years Ivy and useless Bert must have been struggling for their boy (everyone else, led by Brine calling him a waste of space and the missing link - how cruel) and Susan never uttered a word.

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    We've got a box to tick with learning difficulties and Gary, Pollyanna so there's one reason of Horrobin mania. Funny no one mentioned it before though. All these years Ivy and useless Bert must have been struggling for their boy (everyone else, led by Brine calling him a waste of space and the missing link - how cruel) and Susan never uttered a word.

     
    Exactly A Frend. A whole new world of Horrobins has opened up as far as I am concerned. I didn't realise Bert even existed (although I gather from better listeners than me that he had featured some time ago). , hence my genuine confusion as to what Bert Fry was doing in Ivy's bedroom when he found her dead/ I really thought Susan's Dad had long since departed in some way or other So what a surprise to learn not only does Bert exist but that he, like his son, has challenges that mean he cannot operate a washing machine. Poor old Ivy, bronchial pneumonia was the least of her problems; in fact probably a blessed release.

    And now Tracey's relationship has broken down after going through a really difficult period that Susan has never mentioned before. . A member of Al- Qaeda perhaps.

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    Aaagh, last para not in code though it might well have been. Meant to read:

    '......What are we going to learn now about Stuart: a member of Al-Qaeda perhaps'.

    Flipping inconsiderate this MB, letting me delete things I don't mean to and then press Post.

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by A Frend (U2249422) on Thursday, 24th November 2011


    "'......What are we going to learn now about Stuart: a member of Al-Qaeda perhaps'."

    At the very least it has to be a terrorist cell.

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by shell-like (U2729210) on Thursday, 24th November 2011

    ...she'd have to think of an alternative.  

    "Think", eh? Well, there you have it.

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