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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by charmingAnnielynn (U11952070) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    scoring points off a 17-year-old (or whatever Pip is)? Can't you just be nice for a few minutes and let her feel good? And just maybe she'll mention something you hadn't thought of, two heads are better than one, after all! No, you need to point out to Tom (who already knows), and Pip (who just wants to help), that YOU have the marketing degree, and are MUCH better than her at this sort of thing...

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    Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Only nothing seems to dent Pip's self-satisfaction, so alas any barbs from Brenda just glanced off her.

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    Posted by Chocolatecosmos (U14960716) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Well it is a bit like trying to teach your grandmother to suck eggs which is a bit galling to be on the receiving end of. Pip IS a first-class pain and most folk would find her pretty annoying.

    But then Brenda did get her just deserts for being mean - Pats right, they are just tinkering at the edges!

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Yes, talk about tenacious....... Pip....unstoppable.....scary..... insufferable.

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    Posted by Majorclanger (U3647229) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Blog off Pip.

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    Posted by Athena Ergane (U14927530) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Well it is a bit like trying to teach your grandmother to suck eggs which is a bit galling to be on the receiving end of. Pip IS a first-class pain and most folk would find her pretty annoying.

    But then Brenda did get her just deserts for being mean - Pats right, they are just tinkering at the edges! 
    Sorry - my sympathy was with Brenda.
    Pip just didn't get that she didn't have time to listen to stuff she has a degree in.

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    Posted by pollyanna (U7304225) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Pip is eighteen. She has just done her A level in business studies (C grade, or was it a B), so is an expert on marketing. I expect if she had done her St John's cert in First Aid she'd turn up at A&E and give advice to the triage nurse, ignoring the nurses' at first tentative suggestion that this was not new to her, but instead saying there might be things that the nurse hadn't heard about.

    Being eighteen is no excuse for being an egocentric self important know it all. However ghastly Brenda is, she was right to point out to Pip that some people know more than she does. Its a lesson Pip needs to learn in life if she is going to live to see nineteen.

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    Posted by NotsoTinyTim (U2256329) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    I can't feel sorry for the appalling Pipsquawk. She is so thick-skinned that she can't see when she's not wanted and when she's being a painful know-all.

    I'll let you into a well-kept secret. I am not Pipsquawk's biggest fan.

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Athena Ergane (U14927530) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Well it is a bit like trying to teach your grandmother to suck eggs which is a bit galling to be on the receiving end of. Pip IS a first-class pain and most folk would find her pretty annoying.

    But then Brenda did get her just deserts for being mean - Pats right, they are just tinkering at the edges! 
    Sorry - my sympathy was with Brenda.
    Pip just didn't get that she didn't have time to listen to stuff she has a degree in. 
    Ooops that should have been

    I agree with Chocolatecosmos. - my sympathy was with Brenda

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by JudithL (U14272244) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    I agree, Pollyanna. Pip is an insufferable little know-it-all, and it's time someone cut her down to size.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by dickie (U2267358) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Though Brenda has a degree in marketing, it's not what she does. She's no more than a dogsbody who spends a lot of her time showing people around properties.

    If Brenda was any good, there would have been no need for Pip to have come up with these suggestions since Brenda would already have done it.

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by mademoiselledecompost (U14526349) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    I agree, Pollyanna. Pip is an insufferable little know-it-all, and it's time someone cut her down to size.  And Brenda is a mediocre failure who thinks she works in marketing---did she ever work in marketing? I don't think so.

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Brenda needed to be a tad more blunt to get through to Pip. (Use a blunt instrument, perhaps?) It reminds me rather of the way she failed to deal effectively with Vicky. She'd let Vicky walk all over her and then strop about it to Tom afterwards.

    Good writing, I thought, everyone acting very much in character.

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Agreed, JJ Pi is ghastly and Brenda a complete twerp.

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by seedy-bee (U14214632) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Pip was continuing to be an absolutely unbearable know-it-all - I thought Brenda was quite patient and kind to her: she could have been much more forthright in reminding Pip of her (Brenda's) greater experience. And Brenda didn't have to give credit to Pip for the Testimonials idea - so well done to Brenda this time!

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Vicky S (U2258400) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    ---did she ever work in marketing? I don't think so. 

    madamedecompost! How could you forget her excursion to Leicester, The City At The End of The Universe, where they drink lattes all day and go to winebars of an evening! She must have been there for nearly three weeks, plenty of time to garner a lifetime's experience of the world of real life marketing.

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Top post, pollyanna.

    The way it felt to me was that Brenda did her best to stem the flow of information she didn't need without actually putting a blanket over Pip's head, and failed, but at least she tried to tell the child that she was not the *only* person in the universe who might have done something to do with sales and a computer more than about a week ago. Nobody else ever does, even Helen who wold have been the first to steamroller for herself until quite recently.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by flameofthewest (U14483084) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Being eighteen is no excuse for being an egocentric self important know it all. However ghastly Brenda is, she was right to point out to Pip that some people know more than she does. Its a lesson Pip needs to learn in life if she is going to live to see nineteen. 

    Absolutely pollyanna. I don't have much time for Brenda either but Pip is insufferable. She is so convinced that she knows better than everyone else and that therefore everybody must be agog to hear her views. The idea that they might not want the benefit of her opinion doesn't enter her head. I've been away and am still catching up, so can I add that I loved the scene last week where she phoned Helen and inflicted her half-baked ideas on her. I almost felt sorry for Helen (almost...)

    And in answer to message 12, yes, Brenda has worked in marketing, in Leicester, for about 5 minutes.

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by mademoiselledecompost (U14526349) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    ---did she ever work in marketing? I don't think so. 

    madamedecompost! How could you forget her excursion to Leicester, The City At The End of The Universe, where they drink lattes all day and go to winebars of an evening! She must have been there for nearly three weeks, plenty of time to garner a lifetime's experience of the world of real life marketing. 
    Yes Vicky, I do remember her job---(the one to die for) handing out energy bars.....three weeks and she couldn't hack it. And yes, I do remember the lattes.

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Yeahbut -- did Pip ever work in marketing? I don't think so. Oh, sorry, yes: she was there when Jude talked about a website using all the right buzzwords, that would be about equivalent to a couple of years with a firm doing the actual job...

    A case of the stone blind trying to lead the partly-sighted, methinks.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    ........and all that Archer collusion with the wonderfulness of Pip by Tom!
    I suppose he defended her against hs partner just because they are both of the clan.

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Tom's inevitable defaulting to disloyalty to Brenda really does make me wonder at intervals why on earth she stays with him.

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Considering that Pip was "just passing " with her A level notes or what ever and totally ruined Brenda's afternoon and wouldn't take the hint to leave I think Brenda was quite kind to her. Pip has had quite enough people brown nosing her mediocriity to last her a life time.

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    > I expect if she had done her St John's cert in First Aid she'd turn up at A&E and give advice to the triage nurse, ignoring the nurses' at first tentative suggestion that this was not new to her, but instead saying there might be things that the nurse hadn't heard about.<

    Oddly I came up with a similar medical analogy for that scene, but with a different twist. It felt more to me like someone (BF) dying of a heart attack and a naive first aider (Peep) turning up to try and help, however inexpertly, while the heart surgeon (Bapper) stood on the sidelines doing nothing to help but pointing out she was the expert and critiquing the first aider, occasionally grumbling when the first aider got something right.

    There wouldn't have been any need for Brenda to have been irritated if she'd got off her lazy backside and got involved in the crisis to begin with. And yes I know it's not her business but it's her fiance's business and her future gravy train plus a brilliant opportunity to show she's a successful marketing expert to enhance her CV.

    Brenda has no vision, no spunk, just interminable stupidity, thinking that showing punters round her dodgy employers' dodgy property and making coffee represents a 'career'.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by Chocolatecosmos (U14960716) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    Tom's not known for his constancy when it comes to women, I've often thought that he ended up with Brenda because there wasn't anyone eligible left in Ambridge!

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Monday, 22nd August 2011

    The men of that branch of the Archer family are I think meant to be the Lotharios of the village; Tony flitted from girl to girl just like a butterfly in his youth, John was inclined to want to have two women at one time and lie to each of them about the other, and Tom was unable to decide who he wanted at any given time for *years* and usually seemed to be running two girlfriends at a time before he decided to shack up with Brenda.

    If I felt that any of them really provided any *reason* for women to fall in droves around his feet I might be more convinced by this; as it is, my reaction is always "Why does this woman give that nasty little person the time of day?"

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by GreenBrownBear (U14258765) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    Being eighteen is no excuse for being an egocentric self important know it all. However ghastly Brenda is, she was right to point out to Pip that some people know more than she does. Its a lesson Pip needs to learn in life if she is going to live to see nineteen. 

    Absolutely pollyanna. I don't have much time for Brenda either but Pip is insufferable. She is so convinced that she knows better than everyone else and that therefore everybody must be agog to hear her views. The idea that they might not want the benefit of her opinion doesn't enter her head. I've been away and am still catching up, so can I add that I loved the scene last week where she phoned Helen and inflicted her half-baked ideas on her. I almost felt sorry for Helen (almost...)

    And in answer to message 12, yes, Brenda has worked in marketing, in Leicester, for about 5 minutes. 
    Why on earth Bren couldn't just say to the Squawker. 'Look this sounds fab and we're truly grateful, but I've got things to do this afternoon and so I', afraid I'm going to have to chuck you out' Suitable alternatives and phrases in place of that of course, but you get the idea! She could haver also said (as I do to cold callers and the like) 'perhaps you could put some ideas on paper/e-mailso we can think about them properly etc etc' Of course we never hear from 'em again.

    Once seen in black and white, Pip's notions could be either laughed out of court or if they should be any good, easier to accept without having to listen to her droning, through the nose voice!

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    Like many TA couplings Tom and Brenda's is most unlikely. It is the world capital of incompatibility. However, it is Tom's attraction to Brenda that is most unfeasible. I think Brenda would see him as a catch even if it was simply because he was an Archer. I don't think Tom 'would touch Brenda with Joe's' as the saying goes. What does she have to offer him? Oh, those......

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by Jon Dylon (U2323379) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    >did she ever work in marketing?<

    yes! she's BRILLIANT at leaflets!

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by GreenBrownBear (U14258765) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    Reply to CG

    I wonder if the scriptie at the time John was ruling the roost and Tom attempting to, had read the book or seen play/film 'Billy Liar'. In the case of both John and Tom their exploits came over as rather immature and eventually tedious.

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by A Frend (U2249422) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    "But then Brenda did get her just deserts for being mean - Pats right, they are just tinkering at the edges!"

    Well yes but why didn't PAT lam out at Tom or Hellin instead of poor old Brendur (instructed to lay the table into the bargain)? Also Tom walked off and left the insufferable Pip with Brenda, who is not part of Bridge Farm and has a marketing degree to boot. She should have kicked Pip into the middle of next week rather than listen to another minute of being lectured to be a spotty schoolgirl with a C (?) in Bus Stud.

    Pol Pat flouncing did no good either. Brenda ought to have left - the idea of an evening meal together was dead in the water and getting out with her dignity intact was the best thing she could do.

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by Purple_Hay (U14319650) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    Brenda is a delusional drudge, I've got a degree and what good it did her.

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by Chocolatecosmos (U14960716) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    Like many TA couplings Tom and Brenda's is most unlikely. It is the world capital of incompatibility. However, it is Tom's attraction to Brenda that is most unfeasible. I think Brenda would see him as a catch even if it was simply because he was an Archer. I don't think Tom 'would touch Brenda with Joe's' as the saying goes. What does she have to offer him? Oh, those......  Sorry for being dense but are you referring to two particular assets...ok, right never got that impression before, but have thought from peoples chat in the past that she was meant to be fairly pretty. I've always thought - what on earth does she see in Tom - rather than the other way around.

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by irene (U14262395) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    touch brenda with joes what exactly?

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    ....Tom is very handsome...... After all he is an Archer!

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by Digitalis lividus et niger (U8605497) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    I still can't see why someone from Bridge Farm didn't just tell the Pip that this was /their/ business and /they/ would deal with matters as /they/ thought fit. We'll call /you/, effectively.

    As for hanging on when she'd been dismissed.....I'd have walked pointedly (how does one walk 'pointedly'?) to the door, and opened it.

    Dig

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by EsmeandSebastiansGrannyNic (U12027312) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    ....Tom is very handsome...... After all he is an Archer! 


    I like Tom, wavered a bit over the "Sack her" comment..............

    Though he does annoy me at times, but they all bloody well do now................. I find myself shouting shut up a lot between 7.00 and 7.15...............

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by Pahnda (U14681704) on Tuesday, 23rd August 2011

    ....Tom is very handsome...... After all he is an Archer! 


    I like Tom, wavered a bit over the "Sack her" comment..............

    Though he does annoy me at times, but they all bloody well do now................. I find myself shouting shut up a lot between 7.00 and 7.15............... 
    Like Tom? Well I suppose someone has to. But what has Brenda done to help, absolutely nothing except agree with Tom that Clarrie should be sacked. What a useless baggage she is.

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by EsmeandSebastiansGrannyNic (U12027312) on Wednesday, 24th August 2011

    ....Tom is very handsome...... After all he is an Archer! 


    I like Tom, wavered a bit over the "Sack her" comment..............

    Though he does annoy me at times, but they all bloody well do now................. I find myself shouting shut up a lot between 7.00 and 7.15............... 
    Like Tom? Well I suppose someone has to. But what has Brenda done to help, absolutely nothing except agree with Tom that Clarrie should be sacked. What a useless baggage she is. 
    With baps like that though, who needs to be useful.....................

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by Jon Dylon (U2323379) on Wednesday, 24th August 2011

    >What a useless baggage she is<

    but Tom said "I couldn't be doing any of this without you" when she bubbled the other night, so she must be useful in at least a couple of ways, and not the complete waste of space I thought she was!

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Wednesday, 24th August 2011

    There is more to someone being attractive than alleged handsomeness.

    Personality (Tom has none)
    Sense of humour ( Tom has none)
    Kindness to employees ( Tom has none)
    Non-Graspingness(Tom is grasping)
    Ability to be clear-sighted ( Tom has none)

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    Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Wednesday, 24th August 2011

    He also sounds like a petulant teenager at least 95% of the time..

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by EsmeandSebastiansGrannyNic (U12027312) on Wednesday, 24th August 2011

    There is more to someone being attractive than alleged handsomeness.

    Personality (Tom has none)
    Sense of humour ( Tom has none)
    Kindness to employees ( Tom has none)
    Non-Graspingness(Tom is grasping)
    Ability to be clear-sighted ( Tom has none) 



    And yet he is still my favourite character................

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