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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Mrsdielle (U14796699) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    I have just joined so forgive me if its all been said before but although i have never liked Ruth I now find her attitude to Elizabeth absolutely despicable. How can she be so selfish and self centred and clearly resent every minute that David spends with his newly widowed sister. As for Pip if she is going to play a bigger part with her whiney, moaney voice and attitude I shall be forced to give up having listened since day 1.

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    Posted by binocular (U10832169) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Hello Mrsdielle. Welcome to Mustardland.

    Yes I'm afraid you're going to have to listen to both Ruth and Pipsqueak for sometime to come.

    This business over Nigel, is dreadful and totally unnecessary.
    That'sonly my opinion you understand...

    Needles to say because of all the guilt David feels about the accident, and he must take some of the blame. That is the main reason why he's so keen to help Elizabeth and the twins.

    It's a selfish act in a way. Almost to save your own skin you will risk anything. Even leaving Brookfield when clearly he is needed there.

    There's only so much WR can take and do by herself.

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    Posted by hiya_loxley (U2274305) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Well if I had a newly widowed sister and I took two months unpaid leave from my normal job to help her run the business in place of her late husband wouldn't my wife feel aggrieved (all supposing I had one etc) ?

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    Posted by Lady Trudie Tilney Glorfindel Maldini (U2222312) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Hello Mrsdielle, welcome to ML, and do you know about the free drink in the Bull for newbies?

    I'm not sure that Ruth is being despicable at all - she has been patience itself and has not actually spoken to Elizabeth much at all as far as i can recall. All she's done is moan at her husband, quite understandably, and encourage him to encourage Lizzie to get a relief manager - which is just plain common sense really. It would be better for LL too than someone who doesn't know the first thing about stately home-and-garden running.

    I hope the inevitable bust-up doesn't involve Ruth and Lizzie, because Ruth will end up being cast as the bad guy when none of this is her fault. She's just trying to run a farm & a family.

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  • Message 5

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    Posted by Boudicca-Queen (U2891786) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Do stop being so reasonable dear, you're ruining the lynch-mob atmosphere that some of us are trying SO hard to cultivate...

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    Posted by Lakey_Hill (U14391672) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Well, if David was spending the odd hour, or afternoon, or even whole day with his sister, that would be one thing. But spending almost all day every day, until late in the evening, running her business, and neglecting his own, leaving Ruth to run the farm and keep the family going, for months, because Elizabeth stubbornly won't employ some proper help, and driving bulls up to Scotland so that Elizabeth doesn't have to be upset by a stranger doing so, because it was Nigel's favourite bull, is quite another. In my view, Ruth has every reason to be aggrieved. And Pip has come up trumps, on the whole.

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    Posted by Earldunda (U14196337) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Hello Mrsdielle, welcome to ML, and do you know about the free drink in the Bull for newbies?

    I'm not sure that Ruth is being despicable at all - she has been patience itself and has not actually spoken to Elizabeth much at all as far as i can recall. All she's done is moan at her husband, quite understandably, and encourage him to encourage Lizzie to get a relief manager - which is just plain common sense really. It would be better for LL too than someone who doesn't know the first thing about stately home-and-garden running.

    I hope the inevitable bust-up doesn't involve Ruth and Lizzie, because Ruth will end up being cast as the bad guy when none of this is her fault. She's just trying to run a farm & a family. 
    She should try harder then, and learn to cook whils she's at it!

    And stop moaning.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by BlackSheepBoy (U11150138) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    LH

    Agreed. Ruth and Pip are doing really well, and that includes keeping their stresses and tempers in check for most of the time.

    David scarcely thinks about his own farm until one of them reminds him, and when he did remember he laid-off Brian their helper as redundant.

    Shortly it will be two months of full-time (at least) support from David to Elizabeth. Yesterday she seemed to ready to assume his supprt continuing into the distant future; he was too considerate and supportive to argue; so it's just as well Ruth speaks up. So far she's had 12 roses, one hug, and possibly a tin of shortbread from Scotland to show for it.

    A novel suggestion. If a manger for LL cannot be pursued, what are the practicalities and sensitivities about engaging a temporary manager for Brookfield instead? Ruth could then have respite leave and then come back to support David; leaving the farm to the manager..

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    Posted by soobeesomewhere_or_other_soon (U14156736) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Hi, Mrsdielle and welcome!
    I find myself erring on the side of supporting Ruth, which goes against the grain for me. Given that she must be completely shattered, I'm not surprised that she's moaning. Lolo should have employed a manager, by now. Might we lynch someone else, BQ?
    Soo

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by hiya_loxley (U2274305) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    < So far she's had 12 roses, one hug, and possibly a tin of shortbread from Scotland to show for it. >

    I like to think she had rather more than just a hug in the lambing shed on Valentine's night

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by Lady Trudie Tilney Glorfindel Maldini (U2222312) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    'Sorlright B(Q) you know the lynch mob can manage perfectly well without me!

    I just like to be a little contrary, the mobsters much prefer it if there's a bit of opposition.

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by Boudicca-Queen (U2891786) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Might we lynch someone else, BQ? 

    I'm afraid I really can't abide Roothie .

    I find her humourless, prurient, voyeuristic, unimaginative, parochial, petty-minded and generally hopeless.

    I don't care that she's not a domestic goddess rivalling Our Lady of the AGA with her bloody scones, but what IS she good at?

    Those of our correspondents who know about farming (I am an unrepentant townie to the tips of my fingers) don't seem to rate her agricultural skills and it is my own opinion that her parenting skills are lousy, veering wildly between bouts of being nosey, intrusive and over-controlling and a strange policy of laissez-faire at entirely inappropriate moments (anyone remember the "Josh stalks Emma" SL?)

    Is she a good wife to Dim Dave?

    Who knows. At least it saves two other people from being miserable.

    Anyway, now I've got that off my chest....

    It would be a dull world if we all agreed and there are plenty of other candidates for lynching so if you want to start with somebody else that's tickety-boo with me.

    B(Q)

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Lakey_Hill (U14391672) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Why should Brookfield pay for a manager so that Elizabeth can be cossetted and pandered to in her desire never to replace Nigel??? Can they even afford it? They are already having to pay Eddie for extra shifts.

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by lizmee (U13214241) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Do stop being so reasonable dear, you're ruining the lynch-mob atmosphere that some of us are trying SO hard to cultivate...  Oh Boudicca, you are being so true to your royal heritage.

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by AP (U14268795) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Well they haven't replaced Sam, so would have his wages available. They are probably charging Ed & Emma rent so have extra income as well. They probably blew some of it on Pip's car and are employing Eddie part time, but there may be some change.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by cath (U2234232) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    >Can they even afford it? They are already having to pay Eddie for extra shifts.<

    They were able to afford a herd manager, paying agency prices for his services, so they can presumably afford to pay for some extra help (no, I agree they shouldn't have been able to afford a herd manager it's all fairy finances at Brokefailed but they did it).

    And much as I dislike DD I sympathise with him running off to LL whenever he can - I would find any excuse I could to get away from BF if I were married to WR.

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by coaster (U14361130) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Well they haven't replaced Sam, so would have his wages available.  

    That's brilliant A_P! Why doesn't Ruth suggest they get Sam back to help with the milking? Maybe David would see sense then.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by Pahnda (U14681704) on Friday, 25th February 2011



    I'm no particular fan of Elizabeth, but she has very, very recently experienced the most sudden and traumatic loss of her husband.

    Why should her brother not help her out? Though I concede that he is going a bit OTT due to his guilt regarding his part in Nigel's demise.

    The Dopeys are NOT short of money. They do work hard but have inherited a hell of a lot. This is family we are talking about, so why not hire in a bit of help so that David can help Elizabeth out in her 'hour of need'?

    In other words, why make such a bluddy great drama out of something so simple?

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by coaster (U14361130) on Friday, 25th February 2011


    In other words, why make such a bluddy great drama out of something so simple? 


    Ha ha that just about sums it up since New Year!

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by LilianFred (U14714921) on Friday, 25th February 2011

    Do stop being so reasonable dear, you're ruining the lynch-mob atmosphere that some of us are trying SO hard to cultivate... 

    I was just nodding in agreement with message 4 when I saw this. Now I feel almost guilty! hahaha

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by Lady Trudie Tilney Glorfindel Maldini (U2222312) on Saturday, 26th February 2011

    <> but what IS she good at? <>


    Y'see that's why I don't mind Ruth.........fellow feeling I suppose.

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Saturday, 26th February 2011

    Why should Brookfield pay for a manager so that Elizabeth can be cossetted and pandered to in her desire never to replace Nigel??? Can they even afford it? They are already having to pay Eddie for extra shifts. 

    They wouldn't have to afford it the could send the bill to the Lizard...

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Saturday, 26th February 2011

    Why hasn't anyone pointed out to Lizzie that Nigel would have wanted things done properly, he would not have expected her to carry on alone with unpaid help from her family.

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by anna kist (U2314477) on Saturday, 26th February 2011

    Why hasn't anyone pointed out to Lizzie that Nigel would have wanted things done properly, he would not have expected her to carry on alone with unpaid help from her family. 

    Because that would wrap the story up to quickly for VW, Molly.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by sidney-rabbit (U3845117) on Saturday, 26th February 2011

    >forgive me if its all been said before<

    It has, Mrsdielle. But it does not harm at all to say it again. Agree totally.

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by Earldunda (U14196337) on Sunday, 27th February 2011

    It is heartening to be part of the consensus that Ruth is a nasty, usleess piece of work- and to me the fact that she couldn't even get a scone to rise adds to her general and abject uslessness!

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by soobeesomewhere_or_other_soon (U14156736) on Sunday, 27th February 2011

    Earlunda, I think you are a little mischievous. Goodnight.

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