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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Witchy-o (U4944417) on Wednesday, 14th January 2009

    Dear The BBC,

    Why oh why oh why do you feel the need to peddle weak-sounding 'comedy' TV shows at us while we're trying to listen to one of the 3 remaining good shows on RADIO? Remember, this is RADIO, not television, something I have little to no interest in which is why I listen to the RADIO. I don't need reminding about what football shows are coming up, or something that is seen to be 'comedy' these days. Please stop.

    I'm not even old, just cynical.

    Yours, Witchy-o, age 41.5.

    Please remember your audience and wage payers. Remember that WE pay for YOU. Thanks.

    And while I'm on, that Lamb fella isn't too good is he. Just a thought.

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    Posted by glitterball-ninja (U13639813) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    I must second the above.

    Nothing is more infuriating than being interrupted by advertisements for something in which one has no interest, on a non-commercial broadcaster.

    One of the reasons that I listen to the BBC in preference to other broadcasters is the fact that one can listen without commercial interruptions - Being invited to consilidate one's debts into one easy payable loan after a Boards of Canada track rather spoils the mood I find, hence I find it very difficult to listen to xfm for example.

    I watch very little TV and am first and foremost a radio listener. I am sure I am not alone in having been totally fed up of being informed, for example, that the programme Qi was being tranferred from BBC 2 to BBC1. This particular ad seemed to be on constant rotation for about a month.

    So please BBC RADIO producers stop advertising TV programmes on our RADIO station.

    PS: Drop the George Lamb 'cat' promo as well. It's not funny, nor is it clever,and if it's designed to entice new listeners I doubt it's working.


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    Posted by purrmeister (U11445326) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    Totally agree with the above! I heard Adam and Joe saying that it was 'cross-advertising' so I can see 'why' its being done . But surely, if you 'need' to do some advertising, can't it be for music related tv programmes? Over Xmas there was quite a bit of interesting stuff on the BEEB tv stations and there seem to be these weekend music fests which pop up occasionally.

    Please, can't a bit of discerning judgement be used to decide what is going to be advertised - you seem to sometimes misunderstand WHO your target audience is on 6 Music (IMHO)

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  • Message 4

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    Posted by pickledfreak (U11101348) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    What I don't get is why the TV shows advertised are really popular shows that don't need the publicity, why do they need advertising? Its quite rightly been pointed out before that BBC4 has some great music documentaries and these are the types of programmes that require the advertising to let people know they are on.

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    Posted by Andrew Bowden (U178009) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    My suspiscion is that the answer goes along these lines...

    "If you want a TV channel to do promos for you, you've got to do promos for the TV channel".

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    I don't think I'd mind as much if the adverts (sorry, trailers) were on at the same sort of intervals as TV - say two or three all lumped together every half an hour or so. It's when they are thrown in every second or third piece of music all the time, effectively distracting from the theme or mood of a show. That's really annoying.

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by Ethalrocks (U10136879) on Thursday, 15th January 2009



    Must admit i didnt really understand why QI changing channel is of any interest to anyone. I do quite like watching it, but I can manage to follow the tricky journey from pressing a 2 to a 1 on my remote when aided and guided by the TV guide that comes up on your telly to show you whats on.......

    how about we get to listen to the show we are CURRENTLY LISTENING TO. And er enjoy that?

    Tough theory I know to understand for the execs but we might just actually enjoy it a bit more when not interrupted all the time. Once an hour should be the maximum number played, seems more like every 15 minutes at times.

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    Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    I can't remmeber the last time I heard an advert on 6, pointing me to a music or music related show on another station, or to a music-related show on TV.

    Which I would find useful. They could even put it as an adendum to the music news once in a while - a sort of round up of music stuff on offer from the BBC that might interest the 6music demographic. It would be in the spirit of the remit, no?

    F'rinstance, I've recently missed a brian eno special on r3, and a music documentary on 4 by our own Mr Riley - I don't think I heard either of those trailed on 6.

    A lame comedy with caroline quinn in it? What's all that about? - I suppose the 6music demographic is supposed to fit their target audience. I feel quite insulted. Chortle.

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by purrmeister (U11445326) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    Are 6Music and BBC4 'cross-advertising' their various shows?

    It would seem a sensible way to spend the budget(s) as there seems to be some similarity.

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by pickledfreak (U11101348) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    I agree that the music news is the exact format to tell 6music listeners about a Brian Eno show on R3 or the prog rock doc on BBC4. Unfortunately it just seems to be an extension of the NME gossip column.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    Exactly - the prog rock programme is a perfect example of something they should be telling us about.

    Wouldn't that be lovely if they did?

    If only our hosts weren't on extended sabbatical - maybe they could pass the idea on to the news team?

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by edoz (U7920467) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    NO prog rock, just safe pop-rock please, OK?
    Want rock 24/7 ? Planet Rock is your station.
    smiley - smiley

    (I'm acting like a snob and I love every moment of it :D )

    smiley - winkeye

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    Just popped on to say 'me too'.

    Why oh why oh why oh why oh why was the 'prog weekend' on the telly not promoted on 6Music? For crying out flipping loud's sake you are SUPPOSED to be a MUSIC station. You are SUPPOSED to be promoting music from the last 30 odd years.

    Why would I want to hear trailers for comedy shows when something relevant to your AUDIENCE was on?

    Hint - all those words in scary anally retentive capitals are IMPORTANT and a clue to why this station exists. Imagine I'm typing in green ink and then you may get the idea. Put them all in the right order and work out where you are going wrong. If the brain rot hasn't progressed too far.

    Oh yes - cross advertising - its certainly makes me cross (as you may have noticed).

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by mintgreenradiator (U12219337) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    If they don't advertise their own quality output while would they do it for another channel. Copey on Freakzone was one of the best bits of radio I've heard for ages. Was it used to promote 6music or were umpteen trailers for the george lamb show put out instead?

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by SolarSister (U11088749) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    Couldn't agree more. There was quite a lively thread (for once) on the Radio Slippers message board about Prog Rock Britannia - these people were all very interested in discussing it and finding out more. They don't seem to be aware that 6Music, and The Freak Zone, exist. Stop chasing the Radio 1 and BBC 3 audience and go for those who watch BBC 4 and find Radio 2 too bland instead. That is where your increased audience figures will come from. So the Radio One and a Half age demographic is nothing but a nonsense.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    Ah but George Lambs's so much more saleable aint he? That’s why he was brought in, you know to appeal to them wassname's...birds.

    I think his last trailer was very informative. I learned from it that he has a cat, a girlfriend and he's not very funny. Two of those facts came as a surprise to me.

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by SolarSister (U11088749) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    That was the bit in the prog rock documentary, apart from finding out about the very heavy ELP drum kit hand engraved by the makers of Purdey guns, that made me laugh the most. A member of Egg saying wistfully that they never got any groupies because the audience was nearly all male. Didn't ELP also have a roadie employed solely to position an antique carpet on the stage? Prats. They should force George to play prog - that would be 18 minutes without him talking and he wouldn't be able to sing along.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    ELP were the death of prog really weren't they? When he was describing that drum kit I was thinking 'how the hell do you lift it?' then it became clear that thought didn't occur to him until much later.

    Don't think I'd want to be sitting underneath it though and I bet it sounded crap.

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    Posted by purrmeister (U11445326) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    Oh bloomin heck!!!! Heres the link to BBC4 music listing for iPlayers - not everything's to my taste but they've got stuff which is more relevant to 6Music than so called 'comedy shows'!

    www.bbc.co.uk/iplaye...

    Management - Try doing some sensible advertising GUYS!!!!

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    ELP were chuffin dreadful. So were Yes. I grew up in a house FULL of prog - an aladins cave of triple fold-out gatefold sleeves. I remember one by Colloseum that was particularly ambitious in its construction and materials. But it being the seventies, the glue used was rubbish, so the album sat in a pile of loose card and perspex, like an abandoned airfix kit.

    Anyway - it prog's fellow travellers who were the most interesting: Caravan & Softmachine, Pink Floyd, Terry Riley, Hawkwind, David Bedford.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by vladimir (U1160162) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    Marc played the Caroline Quentin "Life Of Riley" trailer this week and commented that BBC1 would break in the middle of that show to run a trailer for his show. That would be nice. Still, we can't complain, every non-Lamb trailer is a blessing.

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Thursday, 15th January 2009

    Tull were good as well on occasions, and some of the members of Yes did some decent stuff individually, although I agree that Yes themselves were tosh.

    Genesis were another band I really couldn't stomach at the time but in retrospect some of their stuff is OK.

    I might just be looking at things through the smoke hazed lenses of my rose tinted spectacles though.

    Did love King Crimson though (and still do)

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by capt_willard (U10913976) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    Quite by chance I found a rather good documentary on BBC4 last night - "All the Young Dudes - Pop & Fashion" by Paul Morley : an exploration by Morley of the effect of pop music on (ok largely his own) sense of fashion. Interesting, funny and intelligent - interviews with Noddy Holder, Ian Anderson, Phil Oakey, Barney Sumner and Stephen Morris, Jazzy B and Tricky.

    Did we hear about this music based programming on the BBC's (supposedly) specialist music based radio station? Did we heck as like - no, we're obviously far more interested in the latest Terry & June-alike from Caroline Quentin - mmmm, cosy!

    To (mis)quote an currently oft used phrase from our most populare thread "they just don't get it".

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    Well, judging by the reviews of 'Life of Riley' they're using the Lamb approach to advertising - pummelling us into submission with trailers everywhere. It just doesn't work you know - you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

    Meanwhile, loads of really, really interesting music shows on 6Music, BBC4, Radio 4 etc go unpublicised. Tom Robinson had a hour with Richard Thompson last Friday - nearly missed it completely until someone mentioned it on one of these threads....

    Hosts, anyone there have a clue how to run a specialist music station? At all?

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    Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    I forgot Tull - but they were never prog really. More a sort of blues-come-urban-folk. But yes, I have a great liking for the first few albums - benefit, Stand Up, This was, and even Thick as a Brick. Minstrel in Gallery is pretty good too. the rest are a bit patchy.

    They were never, could never be, cool. I have been openly mocked by friend and family alike for this weakness of mine. I don't care. I plough my lonely furrow.

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    Wow, now I can come out and say it, loud and proud. I quite like some Jethro Tull.

    Especially A Song For Jeffrey (even if they spell it all wrong).

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by capt_willard (U10913976) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    Oh and another one for which they must have lost the trailer - next Monday at 11.00pm on Radio 4, "In Search of Sid" - a programme by Jah Wobble about Sid Vicious.

    Obviously a programme of zero interest to the laid-back and inane lovers of surreal comedy and chat at 6...

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by U6679583 (U6679583) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    It's ridiculous that all these great programmes are going unwatched and unlistened just because the BBC won't advertise the good stuff.

    I'm going to start a thread where we can at least tell each other what we know is coming up in the schedules.

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by purrmeister (U11445326) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    As I said in a previous post, this is the link to BBC4 music iPlayer and information -

    www.bbc.co.uk/iplaye...

    Seems like we have to do our own homework as the advertising bods are incapable.......smiley - doh

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    I'm actually quite fond of 'Too old to rock and roll, too young to die' for reasons I won't go into. Arguably a parody, but I like the sentiment anyway. Not from their best period admittedly. Ian Anderson had quite a decent(ish) solo album in the late 80's early 90's as well. He's still at it apparently, in his personal studio on a farm somewhere, surrounded by hay bales and chickens no doubt. Not sure if he still stands on one leg though, last time I saw him I think he is probably more gravitationally challenged than in the old days.

    I agree about the thread to advertise other BBC programmes about music though. Book of the week on R4 this week has been a deconstruction of popular music over the last several decades. A bit navel gazy but quite interesting none the less.

    Hmmm.. serious discussions about contemporary music, that must have been difficult to schedule, considering they don’t have a specialist music station or owt.

    So then, we’re going to do the BBC’s job on promoting their own output are we? What next? Start our own version of Radio Times? Apply for the job as joint controllers of the station?

    Hold on though, I don’t have a media studies degree, will that count against me?

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by pickledfreak (U11101348) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    I truly believe that the trailer of the Lame ones show is broadcast over the rest of 6music output just to get at those that despise him. I imagine its hilarious for them.

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Friday, 16th January 2009

    I don't even think they give it that much thought. I don't think they give any of the content on the station any thought any more. Its all just random, amateurish, drivel. Probably the theory is if they keep bashing away with the ad that'll get him some listeners. Simplistic twaddle.

    Funny how they claim on the one hand that his listener figures are doing very nicely and yet expend what appears to be a significant portion of their advertising time on plugging his show. You don't need to advertise something that's popular do you?

    Actions speak louder than ratings, to coin a phrase.

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by pickledfreak (U11101348) on Wednesday, 21st January 2009

    I read this in the Independent today. It appears that the recent increase in trailers is not just annoying the 6music message board faithful.

    www.independent.co.u...

    I notice that the how to add links button help button doesn't actually tell you how to do it, it just tells you what you can't link to. Thats handy.

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Monday, 9th February 2009

    It's ridiculous that all these great programmes are going unwatched and unlistened just because the BBC won't advertise the good stuff.

    I'm going to start a thread where we can at least tell each other what we know is coming up in the schedules 


    And lo he did set up a thread..

    ..and it came to pass that this thread was used most fervently by all those good folk of the 6Music message board community and much chat was had and many music programmes, that those from the big castle in the sky couldn't be bothered to advertise on the station, were discovered and watched.

    But then the Mod-on-high known to all the interweb community as the 'Black ops colonel' and to others as the great lord Jem, did see this thread and believed in his heart that such things should not be permitted. “How can these people discuss the whys and wherefores of my great lord BBC?” spake he. "For I am the keeper of the silver book of power, I am the maker of lasagne and the drinker of pints! What are these posts telling the goodly folk of 6Musicland about US folk evenings on BBC4? Who are these heathen serfs that speak of Buddy Holly and prog rock and all that came before the great creation of heavy rotation, industry support and the almighty playlist, praise be its name!"

    Then came a small band of the little people from 6Musicland. They looked up, blinking into the piercing light of righteousness surrounding the great lord and did ask “why should it be this way? - What reason could there be for the lack of joined up marketing at the BBC?” Why should we be driven insensible by unholy trailers for shows of comedy and never told of relevant content that would warm our souls in these times of great trouble and snowy driveways. Programmes that tell of our much loved music and its relevance to our otherwise worthless existence?

    But the great lord Jem did bluster and bellow “Who am I to be troubled with the small minutiae of your paltry lives?? I am the great lord!! I have much power and many seminars to attend. I am the creator of the Venn diagram and the wielder of the deadly Point of Power. I should not be expected to know the answers to your questions, nor can I be troubled with paying attention to the technicalities of my job description! I am not here for the benefit of such small and insignificant creatures as you! I am the great lord of the black ops!!”

    And the sky did darken, and the ground did shake the little people of 6Musicland as they cowered and trembled in their rough shelters, whilst with one sweep of his holy notebook the great lord Jem did smite the message board with great fury and vengeance, and lo the thread was closed.

    And once again the poor folk of licencefee land did shuffle back to their miserable DABs, renewed in their faith that the big castle and the lords therein had no concern for them or their beliefs and desires. The big castle continued to shine its darkening glow above all the lands in its domain, gleaning the hard earned gold from the pockets of its inhabitants, whilst grinding their small and insignificant words under their pitiless and relentless trudge towards the land of mediocrity.

    But now they knew that longer will they be allowed to know of the goodly programmes of music in the rest of their creation. And as another trailer for ‘Being human’ bore into their softening brains, the great lord Jem closed his mighty book of power and once again turned his smiling face to the wall.

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by mintgreenradiator (U12219337) on Monday, 9th February 2009


    Mozo,

    I'm off to paint the lintle and door posts with the blood of a newborn lamb. Will that help?

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Monday, 9th February 2009

    Minty - That may be enough to sate the appetite of Mod the Father and probably Mod the Son, but its anyone's guess how the Holy Host will react.

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    Posted by mintgreenradiator (U12219337) on Monday, 9th February 2009


    Careful, blasphemy against the Holy Host is the unforgivable sin...

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Monday, 9th February 2009

    Certainly seems so

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by Jem Stone (U517591) on Monday, 9th February 2009

    Well i've seen a few things in my time.

    Oh well. Gentle reminder to Mozo. I'm really not sure why repeated personal references to me across many threads are taking up your time but ill leave that to you.

    But repeated attempts to make the same point again and again and again about the station across many threads is disruptive to other users, breaks our house rules and will mean we'll have to look at your membership on these boards.

    Sigh.




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