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  • Message 181. 

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    Posted by I am not an organiser etc (U11351618) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    There is a list of BBC service suppliers here.

    www.bbc.co.uk/supply...

    Can't imagine how to find the appropriate company.

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  • Message 182

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    Am I right in thinking that a link to a legitimate BBC web page has just been removed?

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  • Message 183

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    Posted by Perishermaisie (U12669563) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    OOH. I just sent my complaint in about LOTP bashing on this morning's show.

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  • Message 184

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    Is it any wonder some of us are getting just a little paranoid here?

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  • Message 185

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    Posted by Central Communities Team (U1097995) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    We don't allow the details of the moderation company to be posted on the board. I'm sure you're all very pleasant people, but many of the people we deal with really aren't. Really, really aren't. And although both the BBC and the moderation company do all we can to protect employees, we aren't going to increase the risk to them by allowing users to post details of the moderation company and location.

    Obviously, if you could find out who the moderation company is, and if you don't care about the moderators' physical well-being at all then you can post it elsewhere on the internet and we won't be able to do anything about it. But I would ask you not to, and we're certainly not going to make it easier for you.

    In order to lessen your desire to see the mods come to physical harm, I should point out that the mods aren't responsible for banning members, replying to emails, failing nicknames or dictating policy (they are contracted to pass, fail or refer posts to a given set of BBC rules). This is all done by hosts or the Central Communities Team who work on moderation issues across all the boards and communities.

    Also the mods can't victimise you or single you out for special treatment, because they don't see who's posting the message.

    Paul - BBC Central Communities Team

  • Message 186

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    Hi Paul

    I think the point here is that you are an supposedly accountable organisation. The link in the post modded above wasn't to the moderation company - it was to a BBC webpage listing contracted suppliers. Unless that page is password protected (ie for internal intranet use only) I assume there is no reason that that link should not be available to the licencepayers ie us and that it would be covered under the Freedom of Information act.

    To be honest, I'm sure I don't really care who the moderating company actually is, anymore than who supplies your lightbulbs. We just want to prove to ourselves that for a public body, not a commercial organisation, you are open and fair with you dealings with external companies. Removing links to legitimate BBC pages really sends out the wrong message to the majority of posters.

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  • Message 187

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    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

  • Message 188

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    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

  • Message 189

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    Posted by Perishermaisie (U12669563) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    I think perhaps it is now the Mods themselves and the frankly Orwellian sounding community team who are now paranoid. Physical harm to the Mods????? Come on....

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  • Message 190

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    Posted by Mozo (U10059077) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    Hi CCT

    I am well aware of your concerns and a little disappointed that you think my agenda is to put anyone in harms way. I'm quite happy for the details of the company concerned to be sent to me directly. I'm not planning to splash it all over the internet and my reasons for wanting the details are not based around the recent rash of bannings. If what you say is true, I wouldn’t want to feel responsible for anyone being harmed as a result of my actions.

    I know there are strong feelings about the moderation policies of the BBC across the boards, not just on those concerned with 6Music. I understand that some of the topics involved could provoke unpleasant behaviour and I hope that we on these boards are not seen in the same light. We are admittedly vocal, but not violent or vindictive towards someone who is just doing their job.

    I do however have legitimate reasons for wanting the details and would still like them.

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  • Message 191

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    Posted by paddymcc (U10061454) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    Paul,

    Thanks for posting.

    If moderators can't see who posted a message, are they viewed entirely in isolation, both from other posts and from the radio show under discussion?

    Thanks

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  • Message 192

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    Posted by I am not an organiser etc (U11351618) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    So now I am on pre-mod for posting a link to a BBC web-page.

    I did not do this out of malicious intent - merely to demonstrate the truly ludicrous position into which you have got yourselves. I was going to explain this – but I haven’t got the heart just now.

    I’m not sure who is being invoked most now, Franz Kafka or Frank Spencer.

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  • Message 193

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean everybody's not out to get you.

    Perhaps if I suggest people type BBC and supplier into google I'll be pre-modded as well!


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  • Message 194

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    Posted by I am not an organiser etc (U11351618) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    Hi Paul,

    I’ve just re-read your message. Did you mean to personally insult me?

    vis. “...if you don't care about the moderators' physical well-being at all”. What on earth gives you the right to make that assertion? What do you know about me? As it happens, my work involves DIRECTLY preventing harm coming to people.

    And:

    “In order to lessen your desire to see the mods come to physical harm...” On what do base my supposed desire?

    You have my email address.

    John

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  • Message 195

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    To be honest, I'm not even sure that the moderators are actually based in this country - so I'm sure they're personally safe from our marauding vengeance. I've learnt this week not to used a certain Man's name because they can't differentiate between that and a nickname for something else, not to name a certain northern town, and a whole raft of coloquial expressions that seem to fall on deaf ears.

    Also, not to mention a certain agency and not to post links to other BBC pages if they're not quite what the CCT team wants us to see, irrespective of the BBC Charter and Freedom of Information act.

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  • Message 196

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    To be honest, I am not a number (how appropriate), I'm inclined to post a message consisting of a couple hundred links, all to BBC web pages, just so the CCT can decide which ones in their judgement I, and the rest of the posters here, can decree which ones they feel we should be allowed to view.

    Let's try an external link

    en.wikipedia.org/wik...

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  • Message 197

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    And all this stemming from the fact that BBC is employing one single person who clearly can't do the job properly he is contracted to do, mid morning on 6Music.

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  • Message 198

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    Posted by 365_degrees (U11134593) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    From the BBCs own 'Freedom of Information' page:-

    [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]

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  • Message 199

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    Posted by LoudGeoffW (U11943874) on Monday, 11th August 2008

    See, that's all we wanted to know.

    Mod that and they'll be some serious implications under the Freedom of Information act...

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  • Message 200

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    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

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