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Posted by Jane_6MusicHost (U9666316) on Thursday, 24th January 2008
This is now the place to talk about the George Lamb show. We have closed a number of threads because the boards were filling up with multiple discussions on the same topic.
Feedback is ok but repetitive threads on the same topic could be regarded as spam and closed down. Please stick to the house rules. We will not tolerate people being rude or offensive about any of our presenters.
6 Music Hosts
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by peppermintpatti (U1472081) on Thursday, 24th January 2008
However will you still tolerate any 'rude and offensive' presenters?
I'll say it again - they don't like it up em!!
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by dirtydenoafc (U10794799) on Thursday, 24th January 2008
you dont want people to be offensive about the presenters,then get him off the air then and stop trying to be chav radio then, because he has been offending me now for a few months now.
how many times have you had to do this for any other channels or presenters,
have you got the picture?
somehow i think you might be getting it!
let,s hope so, dirty
But why George Lamb can be rude to me??? YES , he is rude to me. His stupid jokes are rude and his voice should be banned from BBC airwaves!
well said 6 music hosts I for one am so sick of all the rude + offensive carping about george's show from people who dont know what theyre talking about if they just listened instead of moaning for instance yesterday on georges show it was the 1st ever fez AND CRavat wednsday - and mark immediately called it FEZAT WENDSDAY - brilliant. even tho there were tecnical problem's the 1st 15 mins were was one of the best George Lamb show's ever with sarah beth toocheck and funy stuff about bob dylan. in fact it was so good i got my m8 andy at work to made a video for my facebook page to go with it so - u negative moaners ought to listen to it without predjudice and here the true genius of george on radio 6 - the bbc should give him his own tc show as well. jennie
ps andys video is at uk.youtube.com/watch...
That is either a genius post or it confirms all we've been saying about Lamb fans.
, in reply to message 7.
Posted by zippymoondust (U4365269) on Thursday, 24th January 2008
Genius post and vid
6Music Hosts said: "We will not tolerate people being rude or offensive about any of our presenters."
Nice to know they have high hopes for this thread!
Some people sometimes acting like dumb sheep's... FunnyLambyFun, do you think that we didn't gave him a chance? We DID! But he was and is awful!
, in reply to message 6.
Posted by mighty_falbrav (U10847918) on Thursday, 24th January 2008
Soooo....we've rattled the 6Music cage!!!!!
Good stuff....
I love the irony of the fact that by attempting to control (hide,dampen) this forum's critism of certain presenters, "they" have actually exposed their insecurity about the stations current state.....
"They" don't want to face up to the truth that so many of us are dissillusioned and want answers about the crass direction that this station is currently steering!!!!
Ban us completely 6Music - it did the job for Frankie Goes to Hollywood!!! Ha Ha!
Oh and for George Lamb, Well... to those that are responsible for this this "less than appropriate or intelligent" addition to this once great station - 10 years down the line he will haunt your career resume's...believe me
Fez and Cravat Wednesday?
What the hell has that got to do with 6Music, closer to the music that matters?
Your whole post Jennie, is the EXACT reason people are turning off. It's getting embarrassing. All the reasons you gave to try to justify him, only serve to make people NOT want to listen and are, in fact, the same reasons we turned off.
We can't listen because he's unlistenable. If you are an adult with an interest in music or a devotee of what the station used to be.
Finally, people don't listen 'with prejudice' surely? They listen and form an opinion like any normal human being. I think it's insulting to suggest otherwise. And the overwhelming opinion is, He's not right for 6Music.
When I finally gave up listening a couple of weeks back or so, his smarm and thinly masked desperation couldn't quite hide the fact that all this negativity was getting to him and he over-compensates with false smugness. Like the child you tell off for kicking the legs of the dining table only to have them instantly do it more, just to annoy.
Hopefully, he'll stay long enough for these rumblings to become and avalanche that will do for his career an irreversible damage.
To the bosses at the Beeb, he'll soon become the Jade Goody of 6 Music. Seemed like a good idea to put him in, but he opened his mouth, and now it's an embarrassment they don't know what to do with.
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by midnightflipflop (U10911924) on Thursday, 24th January 2008
6 Music hosts - we will stop posting when you start listening to us and take this offensive idiot off six music. Listen to your audience!
Who knows, maybe it will end with big scandal when 6Music "head" will be destroyed all that is left from once a great radio station (I mean, they will drop Lamacq, Brain Surgery ,Tom Robinson ,etc.). Maybe it would be better... If now only George Lamb will leave (because someone will leave, thats for sure) all other things will remain the same... :?
Wow, I'm impressed, but not impressed at the same time! Who on high decided that all the threads complaining about the waste of airspace known as GL should be deleted or censored? This is massively forthcoming about the state of thoughts at 6th music - 'let's get rid of all the bad threads and start one ourselves where we can censor all the bad vibes towards the worst presenter (I use the word loosely) that has ever had the misfortune to 'grace' the airwaves?'
I thought Russell Brand was bad but GL is a different league of badness altogether. Offensive, uneducated, shouty, 1980s DJ'ing at its worst period ever. He's even succeeded in making me think Nemone is actually OK and listenable.
To me, 6th Music should be as it is from 7pm overnight - educated, non-playlist, listenable, good chat with bands, excellent live sessions, intelligent articles and shows. Not, NOT dire stuff about what happened on last night's reality TV garbage or what's in this week's HEAT magazine or what pants the DJ (I use the word loosely in all senses) has on.
Daytime 6music should not be represented by one management agent, in fact anything BBC that *I'm* paying for shouldn't be represented by one management agent that also represents such utter tosh as Big Brother and countless so-called 'reality tv' shows.
I fully expect this to be moderated so I'm copying in some none-6th Music listening friends.
6 Music? Maybe it was once. Now it's 6Ratings.
goodbye daytime once and for all.
Psssst- I think Jennie is one of us.
I was replying to S1acko btw, I didn't realise there would be so many messages in between.
Please tell me the lambfan2 post is a wind up. I watched the youtube video and the cut and paste job you've done has made Lamb sound even more irritating. I didn't think that was possible. It makes Ivan Brackenbury sound like John Peel (and he's bonkers!).
Unlike some posters I don't want to see the destruction of George Lamb's career. I'm sure he has his place. It's just not on 6 music. As this video shows www.youtube.com/watc... he's much more comfortable talking about his tv and celebrity pursuits than his musical tastes.
I have a feeling that the hosts are asking us to join their petition so, to avoid any confusion: I am 6 music listener and I cannot listen to George Lamb's show,it's painful. We turn him off, and listen again to Gideon Coe or Marc Riley instead.
well said!
That's to Witchy-o btw
Witchy-o wrote: "To me, 6th Music should be as it is from 7pm overnight - educated, non-playlist, listenable, good chat with bands, excellent live sessions, intelligent articles and shows. Not, NOT dire stuff about what happened on last night's reality TV garbage or what's in this week's HEAT magazine or what pants the DJ (I use the word loosely in all senses) has on."
Hear, hear! You're not wrong.
Incidentally, I just put the name "George Lamb" into an online anagram generator. There's some good 'uns, but I don't expect my personal favourite would curry much favour with our beloved moderators.
I'm happy to add my name to the petition put up by the moderator.
Get this idiot off 6Music.
Thank you.
, in reply to message 20.
Posted by mighty_falbrav (U10847918) on Thursday, 24th January 2008
I wonder if by limiting intelligent critique of Gorgeous George to just one thread - the powers that be have "shot themselves in the foot" by ensuring that the number one topic will forever be Lamby!!!
Oh dear, in my office we got tired of having to keep going to 'listen again' shows and decided we were just going to put the radio on and leave it on all day. It's nice to listen to live radio, especially to hear the news.
Our live listening lasted for one day until 10.15 this morning.
I'm sorry but the management can ignore this as long as they want but he is never, never, never going to fit in with the 6music audience.
Actually they can't. I mean, who control management?And from what point BIG Head ( Beeb or smth like that? ) fire management who just can't work?
Sorry but everyone of us who care about musci could be better 6Muz controller at the moment.
FEZAT!!!
Oh my goodness, that youtube video is comedy gold! There is no way that is a genuine fan posting that, total gold!
I notice all the replies to this thread are being pre-moderated now!
I'd like to add my name to this petition. George and his posse aren't right for 6music and they'd be better received on another station (Radio 1 perhaps).
"Offensive, uneducated, shouty, 1980s DJ'ing at its worst period ever."
Shudder. I remember it only too well. For those of us who lived through it, it's hard to ever again truly trust the organisation that gave us Simon Bates. (For younger readers, you just need to know that once upon a time, BBC Radio committed a serious of terrible crimes that they never properly apologised for.)
It's a slippery slope, George. It starts with comedy sound effects, and the next thing you know you're Dave Lee Travis, dressed in a kilt and dancing with a Womble.
, in reply to message 24.
Posted by Lord Evan Elpussall (U1680871) on Thursday, 24th January 2008
This is familiar territory, reminiscent of the outcry when Chris Evans took over the 'Drivetime' show over on the sister station Radio 2, the R2 'Shows & music' board was swamped with messages of protest. The outcry even made the national press and featured on R4's 'Feedback' programme.
It transpires that protesting on here aren't considered 'official' and won't count, though it's a good way to let off steam. It's best to make a protest here as well as that is official. You can request a response (apart from the auto-responder) Here's the link: www.bbc.co.uk/compla...
Despite all the protests, Evans is still there and a few others. The only other thing that happened is that the R2 boards used to number about 6, now there are only three! Q What do 6 music & Radio 2 have in common? A They both share the same controller!
I agree with the moderator who started this petition and wish to add my name, we will not tolerate rudeness or offensive behaviour. Lamb out!
, in reply to message 9.
Posted by mighty_falbrav (U10847918) on Thursday, 24th January 2008
Could I ask why my last post was not published? Can I ammend it in some way that makes it "acceptable to you"?
My e-mail address is [Personal details removed by Moderator]
Thanks.
, in reply to message 30.
Posted by peppermintpatti (U1472081) on Friday, 25th January 2008
I was told to listen to yesterday's show, by a friend who'd listened for the first time, (ironically she thought it was Shaun Keaveney we were moaning about, as she'd never heard George Lamb before - (teacher, working in the day).
Anyway she tuned in when they had a female presenter in with them, who she said completely showed them up, when she talked about Russell brand's reinvention by Madonna's agent. I can't find it on listen again, as it's too painful an experience to hunt through it all, but as a teacher of 16 year old's, she was very astute on how they handled the conversation, how uncomfortable and inarticulate they were, going for sound effects buttons when they had nothing to say, and completely out of their depth ..much like the kids she teaches.
I do think he'd be perfect on Radio 1, it's aimed at an age group he can relate to, but please he's not suitable to an adult music station.
As for the reference to Chris Evans, I tune in to Radio 2, but then I always have flittered between 2 and 6 at this time. if Chris Evans presented a show similar to his old Radio 1 show, it would have backfired badly, luckily he is professional, smart and a great presenter and has won me over. I really can't see Lamb EVER doing this. So yes I accept that listeners can be won over, but we've given him a chance, he's not working and really doesn't have the capacity or wit to change.
He won't be perfect for Radio 1 :o Common. He isn't DJ and he isn't comedian. Nonsense talking isn't comedy.
I better listen to BBC Radio 1 daytime not George Lamb and that's it.
Notice that they've left the thread titled "well done lamby" even if it is a negative post with a sarcastic title.
Propaganda. Don't let them spin their way out.
Lamb must go.
That youtube video was very funny, the parallels between GL's style of presenting and Alan Gordon Partridge's style is uncanny. I hope GL has got a 12 inch plate for his future travel tavern residence. I can depressingly say however that the youtube clip will probably be the only thing to make me laugh this morning, as lets be right there isn't anything decent to listen to on 6 until a lot later this afternoon (praise be for listen again). Please remove the perma-tanned one immediately before I get diagnosed with high blood pressure.
Good point about Chris Evans, peppermintpatti. I sometimes listen to him in the car on my way home from work and yes, it's a completely different experience from his R1 shows, because he's astute enough to know his audience. And possibly he's just a bit older and calmer these days anyway and therefore more suited to R2.
To some extent, the same could be said of Nemone. Whilst I'm not really keen on her style, she presents a different show on 6Music to those she used to present on R1, because she is a professional.
Lamb... well, it's all been said really. Although I remain disappointed that my post referring to his chat with Leigh Francis got removed. If that post was offensive, it's because it directly referred to content in Lamb's show!
6 Music Hosts, who do you think you are?
We are the fee paying public, and we pay your wages.
I know that you don't listen to us, do you listen to your own shows? The tripe that Lamb spouts is embarressing, and 6 music has no right putting him on.
I for one will keep using this message board, and make sure that Lamb is being moaned about as long as he is on 6 Music.
Get him off now, before ^ music becomes a laughing stock.
GET OFF!
Bring back Gideon Coe... Lamb's grating Cockernee drawl makes me want to throw my DAB out of the window.
And to think, BBC6 started as ground breaking, now it's turning into yoof friendly XFM type....
Shame on you BBC.
In my view, the comparison between the rumpus over Chris Evans joining 2 and George Lamb on 6 shouldn't be made. They are poles apart.
Evans is undoubtedly a talented guy and is good at what he does.
2 Listeners would merely question his suitability when perhaps they expected his show to be a copy of his old 1 slot and that's understandable. It wasn't and isn't! Peppermintpatti is 100% correct. He's a real pro and made a show that fits the 2 genre.
George Lamb could never do this. He has absolutely no qualities that make him suitable for 6 Music nor does he have the professionalism to adapt to it.
He is what he is, but that isn't what 6 Music either needs or wants. And yes, he's had all the chances he should ever have been given in life.
Anyone know the names of his sidekicks or where they came from? THAT could be interesting.
I try GL every day and generally can't take more than i5 minutes, i listened to quite a bit of it yesterday to hear the excellent Duke Spirit session. I've tried ,he's dreadful, his sidekicks are worse and it annoys me that i'm paying for them to clutter up the airwaves.
, in reply to message 39.
Posted by peppermintpatti (U1472081) on Friday, 25th January 2008
Seeing as the hosts don't want multiple posts anyone referencing this message board for the first time may be interested in some of the articles, reviews that have been discussed earlier on the board.
links to them for reference are:
'A dose of passion' by Lynsey Hanley in The New Statesman January 17th 2008
www.newstatesman.com...
BBC 6Music: hit or miss? by John Plunkett - The Guardian Online -January 24, 2008
blogs.guardian.co.uk...
NB. S1acko gives good quote.
Chris Evans was already an experienced broadcaster with a proven track record by the time he came to Radio 1. When he came to Radio 2 he had even more experience but he had spoiled his track record by disappearing up his own backside. I don't listen to him very often but when I do hear him he sounds like he's doing the job well. He knows his trade, he seems genuinely interested in the guests he speak to, whether they are members of the public, experts or celebrities, and he's made enough mistakes in the past to know how to keep on the right track. He also seems to have left the structure of the show pretty much alone, inheriting features from Johnnie Walker and even before.
It was a bit of a gamble taking him on but there was enough evidence to show he was up to the job.
Lamb, on the other hand, has only a small amount of TV presenting under his belt. Not only did he appear to be excruciatingly bad at it, but he presented, and still presents, the kind of TV programmes that are anathema to many, possibly even most, 6Music listeners. Nobody in their right mind could ever believe he would fit into that slot so it must have been a deliberate attempt to get rid of a large section of the 6Music audience.
As others said there is no comparison. A better comparison would be Davina McCall sitting in for Ken Bruce. It wasn't for very long but I believe that caused a major stink.
Thing you have to remember about Chris Evans is that he is a PROFESSIONAL broadcaster, he knows who his audience is in whatever station or timeslot he is in, and he adapts to that.
GL is the same on TV or radio. I definitely think he'd thrive on Radio 1 and i'm not just saying that because I dislike him.
, in reply to message 1.
This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.
Phill Jupitus come back!
Phill Jupitus come back!
Phill Jupitus, please come back!
Really, he could do 10.00.-1.00. slot. :P
, in reply to message 20.
Posted by spritelymonkey (U10784135) on Friday, 25th January 2008
I didn't think it could get any worse!
I just heard the phone interview with the Goth couple who walk around their local town, one taking the other for a walk with a leash.
Enter George with his razor like wit making tedious comments and doing his best to sound like a tawdry TV presenter (come on George, make the move!)
Fingers crossed he'll continue and say something offensive enough to get him removed from the airwaves on a permanent basis.
I see the petition is almost at 1000!
, in reply to message 31.
Posted by capt_willard (U10913976) on Friday, 25th January 2008
I have been pondering for some months whether I was the only person who found the George Lamb show to be possibly the biggest insult to an audience's ears and intelligence on the airwaves - I am glad to find I am not alone!
As someone who has listened to 6 from the start and always championed it to others, I now find myself having to apologise for previously recommending it - all because of this one show! Having managed to get the whole office listening, we have now found that we simply have to switch off between 10 and 1 - people were just getting too fed up and angry.
Where previosuly Gideon Coe used to instigate informed, intelligent and good humoured discussion, George Lamb's talk of "beat-downs" and the generally aggressive and confrontational nature of his show is simply not what I find enjoyable and informative listening. If the station is looking to shift its demographic so be it - I know that it has however left me and many others behind.
I have tried to persevere with this show, but I can take no more - 6 music may have dumbed down, but I can not!
I am not sure whether anyone other than those who already share this view actually read these messages, but if by chance there is someone at the BBC who takes an interest in what the audience thinks I sincerely hope that you will admit the mistake and take action.
Thank you.
, in reply to message 46.
Posted by peppermintpatti (U1472081) on Friday, 25th January 2008
If you do feel the need to start another thread on this topic, it might be better served on the BBC's POINTS OF VIEW message board:
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
It would probably have a bit more impact.
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by isthisonetaken (U10914108) on Friday, 25th January 2008
Please get this person off 6music. Send him to Radio 1 if they are REALLY short of presenters but I think Big Brother or the next Celebrity show is more of the guys level.
Save 6Music from this Timmy Mallet wannabe
, in reply to message 21.
Posted by isthisonetaken (U10914108) on Friday, 25th January 2008
I can't get a reply posted.
Guess that shows what I think of George Lamb and his poor ability to present a radio show.
I thought it was just me...
the music isn't too bad but the talk (too much of it) is drivel.
Put him on Radio One
Talk about Gideon's show and Freak Zone on the 6 Music Message boards.
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