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Message 241 - posted by U1647194 (U1647194) , Aug 31, 2006

"Chelsea,Liverpool,Man U and Arsenal fans/managers should be very envious now."

As a Liverpool fan, I'm not jealous at all. It's great new for the premiership. In recent years, Man U and Arsenal's dominance has been broken by Chelsea and Liverpool. With the new ownership of Villa, potential takeover of Newcastle and WHU, the premiership will be far more competitive, interesting and entertaining.

I'm happy for Hammers fans. For years, their youth policy has developed great talent, only for them to be sold off to richer clubs.

Instead of a boring two horse race (or even one horse as in the past two seasons), in the coming seasons, there could be 5 or 6 strong challengers for the title.
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laugh!!!laugh!!!laugh!!!laugh!!!laugh!!!laugh!!!laugh!!!laugh!!!
You dippers make me laugh....!!!

"In recent years, Man U and Arsenal's dominance has been broken by Chelsea and Liverpool."

17 years since you've broken anyones dominance of anything!!!

Your right about one thing tho'.......

"a boring two horse race"

....if it was between Chelski & Loserpile it certainly would be that!!!

winkeye






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Message 242 - posted by Hustler (U4419256) , Aug 31, 2006

MSI : Would you like to join United in the premier league

Tevez : Sure I would love to join UNited

MSi: Would you like to play in european cup tournaments

Tevez: Im sure United play a lot of tournaments in Europe

MSi: ok!! so you will go to United

Tevez: Great!! when will i get to meet Sir Alex

MSI: soon !! on the pitch

MSI sadfaceScrew you, no one gets away from running out on us from practice)

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Message 243 - posted by stopthepress (U3879007) , Aug 31, 2006

I bet Pardew never even enquired about them, assuming that they were out of his league.

All you Hammers fans going on about what great signings they are, please try to see the bigger picture.

Chelsea, Pompey, Hearts and now West Ham. How many more?

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Message 244 - posted by Spetznaz (U5169626) , Aug 31, 2006

am a gunner, but dont think this will be a "Leeds Utd" as MSI must now buy WHU. But will they be allowed, dual interest from a certain russian billionnaire
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The billionaire involved IS NOT ABRAMAVICH. there has been a Chelsea spoksman on Radio 5 spelling it out.

This is good business by WHU a prelude to a take over? maybe.

Don't worry Hammers we can share a few vodka's when we win the league and you finish 2nd winkeye

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Message 245 - posted by cornishXI (U2083942) , Aug 31, 2006

On the BBC website it says that Tevez was signed for Corinthians for 14 mill in 1994 wow he was only ten years old then.
My theory is Pardew stood in Heathrow arrivals with a Chelsea FC sign with their names on it and convinced them that yes he was the London Football team manager, and now they've been tricked into signing for the Hammers

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Message 246 - posted by jordan_444 (U3978580) , Aug 31, 2006

i truely carnt belive this i think some were the MSI or what ever they are called are going to buy west ham out and want these players to come with them

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Message 247 - posted by wolvesfaninitaly (U5475329) , Aug 31, 2006

Forget about why or how much...

this is an incredible signing for West Ham and English football in general. Two of the best young players in the world!!!

Could be that Corinthians simply off-loaded them on the cheap after they refused to play for them, and that they'll take a large chunk of any future sell-on fee.

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Message 248 - posted by from the back (U2532502) , Aug 31, 2006


hmmmmmmmwinkeye


The story sounds familiar. A mysterious foreign businessman in his 30s with no previous football experience takes control of one of the biggest clubs in the country. He immediately smashes the club transfer record and promises to make the team the best in the continent.
Yet this is not about England, Chelsea and Roman Abramovich but about Brazil, Corinthians and a British entrepreneur called Kia Joorabchian.

Last week South American football was in a state of shock with the announcement that the Argentina international Carlos Tévez was moving from Boca Juniors to Corinthians for $22m (£11.4m). Tévez, 20, was the leading scorer in this year's Olympics and is considered his country's most exciting young player.
It was by far the most a Brazilian club had ever paid for a player and it was also unprecedented that such a promising talent had moved within his own continent - let alone to a nation considered arch-rivals - rather than to Europe. The Brazilian league is broke and clubs' finances usually depend on selling players abroad.
"Brazilian football doesn't have the resources to maintain a player like Tévez," said Juca Kfouri, Brazil's top sports journalist, expressing the bewilderment and suspicion that the transfer has provoked.

The Tévez deal is, however, a remarkable coup for the London-based Joorabchian, whose firm Media Sport Investment has promised to plough another $35m (£18.2m) into the team. "Our plan is to build Corinthians into a team of galácticos ," he said. "Our goal is to do what Man United and Real Madrid have done. Everyone else who goes to Brazil goes there to trade players. They don't do anything constructive for Brazilian football." He has promised Corinthians three Brazilians of international standard and at least another foreign player for next season.

Yet in the four months since Joorabchian arrived in Brazil, his plans have met with scepticism. Questions have focused on the investors behind MSI and possible links with the Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky, who is living in exile in Britain. Joorabchian says the men are friends and have done business before but insists that Berezovsky is not behind MSI.

There has also been speculation that the man behind the plan is in fact Abramovich himself. The Spanish sports daily As claimed this weekend that the Chelsea owner has a 15% share of MSI, suggesting the Corinthians deal is part of a plan to control the Latin American market. Tantalisingly, there are reports that Abramovich's yacht, Le Grand Blue, was spotted in Buenos Aires harbour days before the Tévez deal was announced. Joorabchian categorically denies any involvement with Abramovich. "We have no link with Chelsea," he says.

The 10-year deal between MSI and Corinthians stipulates that the company will provide $35m cash, of which about $20m will pay off debts, in return for 51% of future profits while covering any losses. The transfer of Tévez is extra, considered a "present" by Joorabchian to the club.

Critics of the deal say that not enough is known about Joorabchian and MSI, a company created in August whose registered address is that of an accountancy firm in central London. Joorabchian has refused to say who the investors are, saying this is common practice for any investment fund.

With an estimated 25m fans in Brazil, Corinthians are the second most popular team in the country and the biggest team in São Paulo, which is the richest and most populous state in Brazil. The club, named after the old London amateur team, won Fifa's inaugural World Club Championship in 2000 but since then the team has slumped dramatically.

Joorabchian hopes to turn Corinthians into a global brand and also make money by exploiting the merchandising possibilities of such a well-supported team.

Born in Iran and educated in Britain, Joorabchian first appeared in the media in 1999 when he and a partner bought an 85% stake in the Moscow newspaper Kommersant using an investment fund based in the British Virgin Islands. "We sold it to a group that [Berezovsky] had an interest in," he said, adding that he has not done business with Berezovsky since.

The Kommersant deal started the speculation about Berezovsky's involvement, which appeared strengthened by comments in the Brazilian press attributed to Alberto Dualib, the Corinthians president. In transcripts of a tape recording, he said that on a recent visit to the UK with Joorabchian the two had visited Berezovsky's home near London.

Joorabchian has never been involved in football before, although he has a wide portfolio of business interests. In the register of directorships at Companies House he gives two different dates of birth - both make him 33 - and two nationalities, Canadian and British.

He said this week that he decided to move into football because he got bored with working in private equity. "We researched a little bit into Arsenal. It was far, far too expensive," he said. "I have a lot of Brazilian friends, so I looked into Brazilian football. It made sense."

Brazilian wariness about Joorabchian was high lighted by the fact that he is using Renato Duprat as his intermediary. Duprat is a controversial figure; he used to run a hospital and health insurance plan that went bust and he is now facing legal action.

One of those against the deal was Rubens Approbato Machado, a former president of the Brazilian equivalent of the Bar Council. He said that investigations of Joorabchian's business links had raised more questions than answers.

"Many doubts have been raised about the aptness of the person behind [MSI]," he said. "Many things have not been clearly explained. No one is against partnership if both sides are well defined. But this is not a partnership. It is almost an outright sale."

Ronaldo Pinto, who is president of the supporters group Hawks of the Faithful, added: "We are against it because we think that only a Corintiano should be in charge of Corinthians. These people want to get in the Brazilian market. I don't know who they are or why."

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Message 249 - posted by BornaRed_LiveaRed_DieaRed_ (U4666396) , Aug 31, 2006

Message posted by Dinheiro Não Pode Comprar Futebol Bonito!

Frank had an argument with Ronaldinho. Be on your toes Hammers.


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haven't you heard Ronaldinho is in talks with Accrington Stanley.

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Message 250 - posted by geraintad7- Its GLC's year...(!) (U5068946) , Aug 31, 2006

Just a quick one for all you West Ham fans... Congratualtions! I think these two are going to be something els for you. I feel really sorry for Zamora, Harewood and Cole as those three are classy but Tevez is going to squeeze them out it looks like!

But Javier, what a signing boys! Kudos to you and I hope you go on and win a cup this season... again Congrats!

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Message 251 - posted by Apu_Nahasapeemapetilon** (U4445588) , Aug 31, 2006

HAMMERS FOR THE PREMIERSHIP!!! biggrin


i bet it must feel like christmas eh? biggrin


congrats ale


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Message 252 - posted by bosc79 (U1685881) , Aug 31, 2006

As a Newcastle fan - Can we have one of your strikers? It doesn't matter which one. They'll all do.

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Message 253 - posted by Dougie07 (U4336710) , Aug 31, 2006

Something isn't right here but well done Hammers.Enjoy having two of the world's best players at your club.I tip you to go far this season with them!What must Ashton,Harewood and Zamora be thinking!

Watch this space for Wigan making a cheeky bid for Ronaldinho....erm

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Message 254 - posted by westhamtillidie06 (U3505186) , Aug 31, 2006

looks like tevez and mascherano finally came to there senses!were on the up

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Message 255 - posted by bicyclecrouch! (U1778291) , Aug 31, 2006

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-Pansil-----Ferdinand-----Gabbidon----Konchesky


-Benayoum---Mascherano----Reo Coker---Etherington


------------------Tevez--------Ashton

4th/5th place for u lads i reckon what a suprise!

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Message 256 - posted by EnV_77 (U5475494) , Aug 31, 2006

My guess is Tevez and masherano had no say in this transer..MSI have cleary pulled this one off just to get hold of the club..and have used these two players to get that. There is no way these two would choose west ham ova the big clubs

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Message 257 - posted by superion (U3048987) , Aug 31, 2006

Get used to it ManUSA,Loserpool and Arse fans. You'll soon be fighting for 3rd not 2nd place.

yup and they'll all be doing it through there own money, you lot going to be the latest rent boys..lets hope not for your sake

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Message 258 - posted by Donthurtme (U5320506) , Aug 31, 2006

Well this certainly looks like a future takeover bid is on the cards, but I for one have nothing against that. The Premiership can only benefit from a five or six horse race as opposed to the accepted 'Big Four' that are dominant at the moment. For one those precious Champions League spots would become a lot more interesting if there was a 'Big Five' fighting for just four places.

A fantastic pair of signings and possibly the dawn of a new era in the EPL. I just hope that there is no influence from Chelsea/Abramovich involved in this as it would be a shame to see West Ham turn into a Chelsea feeder club; their style of football has made them very popular amongst neutrals.

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Message 259 - posted by salvadorsanchezRIP (U3904473) , Aug 31, 2006

According to the evening standard,they signed because West Ham promised them huge percentage of whatever they receive once they move on.
It certainly is a strange deal to say the least!!!
Fair play to the spams though,expect top 7 place from them if they settle well.

Fact is,these 2 players seriously need a mental check? Talk about a complete and utter lack of ambition from both Tevez and Mascherano!!!!

Still,I bet u spams are loving it!!!!

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Message 260 - posted by Ants_The_Faithful (U3630171) , Aug 31, 2006

thts half the deposit paid for WHUFC, good work MSI

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