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Should Fifa punish Materazzi? by littlejackinabox

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Message 1 - posted by BBC Sport (U3702819) , Jul 13, 2006

Zidane undoubtably deserved to be sent off after all it was violent conduct, but what about Mattarazzi?

Fifa is forever going on about encouraging fair play,so what do they intend to do to show they mean business? surely Mattarazzi should be punished as well if there is evidence he provoked Zidane by saying the disgusting things he is alleged to have said?

We all know wind ups occurr on the pitch, but is it acceptable to use someones race, family or political circumstances as a means to provoke a response?

I think not, It certainly isnt acceptable in the workplace or any other place of gathering so why should the football pitch be any different?

It was clear from the footage that something was said to get a reaction from Zidane, after all he was clearly walking away from Mattarazzi then suddenly turned ater hearing what Mattarazzi said.

Fifa should investigate this properly and suitably punish Mattarazzi as well, perhaps take back his winners medal as a punishment, after all what kind of fair play example is being set for the young by this sort of practice and indeed the response.

If the beautiful game is to remain beautiful then its time this sort of behaviour needs to be eradicated..after all the world if full of enough violence and insulting behaviour, the practice of true sporting behaviour is being eroded by behaviours like this...if Zidane was still in the game he would have certainly faced a lengthy ban and various fines...because he isn't should Mattarazzi go unpunished?
       

Message 2 - posted by rocco75 (U3241566) , Jul 13, 2006

So when is it ok to headbut someone? If they call your mum a slag? What about if they say she’s fat? What if they say you have a big nose? Or that you’re ugly?

This whole debate is ridiculous. Zidane was out of order. End of.

Materazzi is being made into a villain for saying something that probably all of us have said at some point in our lives when we’re pissed off with someone. This may not be particularly nice, but to draw equivalence between a verbal insult and a headbut is madness.

Is that really the message we want to send our kids? If someone says something you don’t like it’s ok to smack them one.

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Message 3 - posted by U3328653 (U3328653) , Jul 13, 2006

Last night I was waiting for Zidanes reply part of me was ready to apologise to the Mattarazzi. Instead I got Zidane confirming what I thought. To those who say Zidane didn't specify what he said about mum and daughter he told more of the truth than Mattazrazzi who is a liar and blatently said something. Mattazarri says he said nothing which is pure lies.

I actually think as Zidane no longer plays footie and will not be punished (Amen!) then the Everton reject should not be punished either as this is fair.

Zidane was 100% correct in not regretting his decision. Well done Zidane for being a brave man and a football legend.

I think we should forget about this and move on.

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Message 4 - posted by ronyeats (U1807181) , Jul 13, 2006

the only thing that is clear here is - Italioas like to cheat - zidane is a cowardly thug[sent off 14 times and have u seen his head butt againast Hamburg,unbelievable]- and footballers will always wind up opponents. I dont know about you but I work with teenagers [ could be antbody though] and they try and get a rise out of you all the time , sayig stuff after they have had a drink etc.. If I was to go around meating out my kind of self imposed justice ie violence - I wouldnt get an apology for it! Stupis sentiments in your post mate.

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Message 5 - posted by peminat_sukan (U4739942) , Jul 13, 2006

Taking back his winner's medal?

That would be too harsh I think but if he really did insult Zidane's family in such a disgusting manner, then suspending him for a few matches would I think be the right decision.

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Message 6 - posted by conchoona (U1789457) , Jul 13, 2006

I just think the whole thing is so stupid it's funny.

Materazzi said something naughty - big deal.

Zidane was a moron - big deal.

Let's face it, both these guys have dubious discipline, as proved on many occassions by both.

I feel this is just more Italian baiting - everyone likes to bash a winner.

It's in the past, nothing is going to change it - so I suggest we get on with it. Until there is ANY 100% proof that Materazzi was being racist/anti-Muslim, then what can they do?

And if said proof does indeed come out, then I think Materazzi should be punished.

Until then, get over it.

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Message 7 - posted by U3328653 (U3328653) , Jul 13, 2006

Oh yes one more thing it was obvious the words were your mum and daughter are terrorist whores which was said at least 3 times and is just as out of order as ZZ's reaction end of story.

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Message 8 - posted by jpr60 (U1753940) , Jul 13, 2006

Imagine the box of tricks FIFA would be opening if they punish Materazzi for something he said on the pitch. We'd be having players equipped with microphones so that the authorities could monitor every word said during a football match !
I don't want to hear any more about the incident - it's finished, get over it. I can appreciate that Zidane has a sponsorship deal that must be in need of soothing right now but apart from his personal financial problems we should recognize that he was, indeed a great player but picked up 14 red cards during his career so he's just a footballer like all the rest. He just couldn't control his temper - OK - Materazzi is a nasty piece of work - OK - now, end of story, please !

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Message 9 - posted by _Hehj_ (U4860080) , Jul 13, 2006

There is absolutely no evidence that Materazzi made any comments regarding Zidane’s race/family.
You can’t punish someone when you have no evidence that they’ve done anything wrong – punishing someone on the basis that they ‘must have’ done something would be terribly unjust, and would create a precedent FIFA would have to follow.

The video footage is not evidence at all. For all we know, anything could have been said. There might have been a comment on race or family. There might have been nothing more than a common insult. Materazzi might be telling the truth. Zidane might be telling the truth. We won’t know what went on, however, as those two are the only people that know.

As such, it's pointless debating the point. What we know for certain is that Zidane headbutted Materazzi. That's the only thing that FIFA can and should take action on.

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Message 10 - posted by Blue Yahooze (U4395611) , Jul 13, 2006

People value things differently

ME, I put my Mum, ahead of your Queen, country or 3 lions or cubs...

for a start I wont joke about someones mum in order for that person to do the same.. Its called respect!

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Message 11 - posted by TA5 - the new Kanu (U4746212) , Jul 13, 2006

I am starting to wonder if Zidane is protecting Matt by not saying what was said.

If for example, Matt said something like "all muslim women are dogs" in the heat of the game and Zidane reacted with a headbutt it would be believable.

But if Zidane told the press that Matt had said that then the Italian's life would not be worth living.

Anyways who cares - Zidane is a legend for headbutting Matt. I am sure a lot of italians even enjoyed that.

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Message 12 - posted by factsnotfiction (U2199587) , Jul 13, 2006

Fifa need to make an example of the the DISGRACEFUL Zidane!

He has single-handedly given the green light to every kid in the world that it is okay to strike someone who has insulted you.

If we all lived by this THUG'S life's motto then there would be riots at football matches.

FIFA PLEASE SRTIP HIS AWARD AND FINE HIM VERY HEAVILY.
ZIDANE HAS DISGRACED FOOTBALL.

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Message 13 - posted by 1teamcalledAlbion (U1764163) , Jul 13, 2006

Card counts are hard to ignore-case closed.

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Message 14 - posted by Magumboots (U1827366) , Jul 13, 2006

It's quite obvious that Materazzi said something really horrific.

Zidane was already running away from him, going back into his own half, when he turned around and went to spear Materazzi like an enraged bull.

Sure Zidane was out of order, but you and I know very well that there are some insults which will make us lose our heads, everyone has that one soft point which if touched, can provoke a reaction.

Zidane was no different, and if I was in his position, and Materazzi had insulted my mother & sister in a game of football which has nothing to do with them, I would have done more than just headbutt him, I would have knocked him into little pieces with ferocious blows.

Zidane was right, and FIFA must start looking at both sides of the story.

If FIFA can punish fans for uttering racist insults, why not punish players who insult others along the same lines????

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Message 15 - posted by bertjansch (U1129438) , Jul 13, 2006

quite frankly the holier than thou brigade calling for materazzi's head are starting to sicken me.
get some perspective on this please: a sportsman said something insulting in the heat of the moment to another sportsman who responded with extreme violence. the thug is the man who committed the act of violence. i dont care WHO he is for gods sake - whether or not you are wrong or right is not based on how good a footballer you are!
and for the record zidane's 'apology but no regrets' was absolutely pathetic simply because it wasnt an apology at all. in fact it smacked of him having been advised by agents/lawyers that the whole supposed racial slur thing had got out of hand with FIFA involved and he had better come out and say his piece, basically admitting that it was a mother taunt, before it went much further.

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Message 16 - posted by conchoona (U1789457) , Jul 13, 2006

FnF - chill out dude.

He got sent off, he didn't win the WC, he has had to apologise - what more do you want??

Italy won, fair and square. Enjoy it :)

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Message 17 - posted by Is_it_Tuesday (U2970117) , Jul 13, 2006

I agree they both had their disciplinary problems, which is why I can't believe there's such a debate over this.
I know another player who had his disciplinary problems - Duncan Ferguson. Whenever he got sent off there was no big "Oooh, what was said to him??" debate or enquiry. In fact, he ended up in prison for a headbutt.
Words are exchanged on the field all the time, it's only the hot-headed ones that sink below their opponents' level and lash out. If you start punishing players for provocation then you're walking a dangerous line.

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Message 18 - posted by factsnotfiction (U2199587) , Jul 13, 2006

PEOPLE, Please get it into your heads that IT WAS NOT A RACIAL comment by Materazzi.

And here's why; Because Zidane made a point about that Italian Sports minister official who DID make a racist comment regarding the French team. So if he can come out and expose the racist slur by an old official, don't you think he would have exposed Materazzi too?

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Message 19 - posted by Ronaldo McDonaldo (U3297258) , Jul 13, 2006

I think this has become an over exaggerated load of rubbish. It happened, we should try to get over it. The Zidane conference was the main news headline on Sky and BBC news last night. This at a time when there were 7 bombs in a major city the previous day.

And more to the point, how exactly did Matterazzi insult Zidane's sister, mum, religion and accuse him of being a terrorist all in the space of 2 seconds? It's a non-story.

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Message 20 - posted by TA5 - the new Kanu (U4746212) , Jul 13, 2006

and for the record zidane's 'apology but no regrets' was absolutely pathetic simply because it wasnt an apology at all


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read in between the lines, he is saying he is sorry for the people watching who were upset by his actions. he is not sorry for what he did.

anyways there are a lot of neutrals who respect Zidane more for doing what he did.

People like the Matt who throw around insults on a sports field are silly. FIFA should think about taking it out of the game along with diving, simulation, phantom cards.

I mean what sort of coward insults someone only because they are protected by the ref and the rules of football. If you insult someone you should be prepared to fight them..

I am not saying it is only Matt who does this type of thing, but since it happened in such a high profile way maybe FIFA can use it as a chance to make some "sportsmanship rules"

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