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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Aug 21, 2005 by Ancient Brit
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Thought I'd have a little go Peta. How about putting this article in order <smiley>. Shouldn't we have the communities on top followed by the message boards.
Just a thought. Why not let h2g2 head the community list. Collective may have been the first community to be spawned under the DNA banner but where would it have been without the engine that evolved out of h2g2.


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Aug 24, 2005 by Whisky
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Psst. Don't expect a reply too soon - I think she's on holiday <winkeye>

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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Aug 24, 2005 by   Traveller in Times >42 )^( _
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Traveller in Time <tit> waiting for September
"Walking in the Scottish moors, <sheep> "


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Aug 24, 2005 by Ancient Brit
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<ta><space> No hurry. Hope she has a good one.

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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Aug 30, 2005 by Central Communities Team
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Hi,

Back from holiday now, the Borders of Scotland and the Tweed are gorgeous places! :-D

We've put the messageboards on top because the messageboards have joined us more recently, so it's likely that this information perhaps needs to be referenced more frequently. We also have far more messageboard users than community users..

The lists are in alphabetical order - or at least they're supposed to be - as you've noticed the person who edited the page last didn't put the communities in alphabetical order, they just did the boards! <doh>

I'll get someone to fix it when we have a few less people away on summer holiday! <ta>


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Aug 30, 2005 by Peta
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Drat!

Wrong log in! I need a holiday... ;-)


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Aug 30, 2005 by Ancient Brit
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<ok> Peta. It's just that the forum heading says 'Current List of DNA Communities and Messageboards' and then presents them the other way round giving me fuel for my rant. <smiley>
Scotland is a wonderful place for a break. Hope to get up there for a few days. We honeymooned at Dunoon in September 53 years ago.
Ancient Brit


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 7, 2005 by Central Communities Team
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It's done. <ok>

Mina


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 7, 2005 by   Traveller in Times >42 )^( _
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Traveller in Time <tit> not following, just reading
"The link to Ican is automagically transferred to actionnetwork.
<LINK DNAID="ican"> >> <LINK DNAID="actionnetwork">
<ok>, it is redundant, but the site really appears as actionnetwork. "


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 7, 2005 by Whisky
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Jeez, Mina using the Central Communities Team ID?????
<yikes>


Has anyone warned those poor messageboard users what they're in for!



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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 7, 2005 by Jimi X
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From what I've seen, a lot of them could use a good <whip>...

;-)


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 8, 2005 by Ancient Brit
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Mina
Peta's point in post 5 has been 'done' but the page is still upside down as pointed out in my posts 1 and 7.
Why give each message board a specific identity when 'Message Boards' could have been covered on block as a group within the overall BBCi DNA Community.
Ancient Brit


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 9, 2005 by Ancient Brit
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Come on you guys let's face it. Too many Communities spoil the clan.
The BBCi DNA community needs a home base.
Where's it to be ?

The ever evolving BBCi generated Collective - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/ with it's
Inside features - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/features
Reviews - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/reviews
Watch & listen - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/watchandlisten
Talk - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/talk
Community - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/commun

or
The volunteer run H2G2 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/ with it's
Peer Review - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/PeerReview
Alternative Writing Workshop - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/Writing-Alternative
The Post - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/ThePost
and guides to
Life - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/C72
The Universe - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/C73
and Everything - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/C74

It would be far easier to incorporate H2G2 and it's edited guide into Collective than Vice Versa. It would also be less of a problem to 'Collect' the DNA Message Boards and other DNA odds and sods, thereby 'collecting' a fully integrated BBCi DNA Community under one banner. Who knows 'Get Writing' could be re-introduced. <biggrin>

IMHO. <ok> Ancient Brit






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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 9, 2005 by Whisky
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"It would be far easier to incorporate H2G2 and it's edited guide into Collective than Vice Versa."

And you'd have a riot on your hands in about ten minutes flat...

The users of H2G2 and Collective are not the same, the two sites have different styles and don't necessarily like the etiquette/attitudes of the other...

Just because they happen to be running on the same software doesn't mean they _have_ to interact...

If I drive a certain type of car - does that mean I should be forced to live and work with people who drive the same car?


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 9, 2005 by   Traveller in Times >42 )^( _
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Traveller in Time <tit> running in the analogy
"We all like the car, and we all appreciate when it runs smoothly.

One only uses it to drive the kids to school, the other one only uses it to transport goods for a living, while the third is glad just to have it on their driveway.

And perhaps some have rebuild it for use as a camper, or a hotrod. "


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 10, 2005 by Ancient Brit
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Cars are a means to an end. Drivers are something else.

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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 12, 2005 by Whisky
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"Cars are a means to an end. Drivers are something else."

So why force all Ford drivers to drive up the M6, regardless of the fact that some of them may want to drive from London to Plymouth

or to paraphrase

DNA is a means to an end. Users are something else.

so why force users to join communities they don't want to - regardless of what their interests are.



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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 12, 2005 by   Traveller in Times >42 )^( _
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Traveller in Time <tit> using a bicycle
"We are all free to visit the boards and most community sites however, feel free to blend in and perhaps you notice some interest in any of the others.

I have been selectively promoting the religion board <biggrin> it is an alternative for the ex-360 community. "


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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 13, 2005 by Ancient Brit
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Yes DNA is a means to an end brought about by an online community that has survived the loss of its founder, a BBC take over and the single sign up system. In the going DNA has become the power house of a much larger community. It is not necessary to 'force' those who use DNA to do anything else but enjoy it. Everyone is free to use it in whatever way they choose. Each to his own but this enlarged 'community' already exists and begs a recogniseable and established home base in which to gather and evolve into a community that truly embodies Life the Universe and Everything. That community needs a guide so that researchers can roam and communicate in an world that continuously evolves.
In this enlarged community enclaves of people with diverse interests and experiences are already formed and within those enclaves are smaller groups with shared interests who enjoy each others company and companionship. All need to be encouraged to integrate and be made aware of the existance of the others. It so happens that 'Collective' has a name that more nearly fits the bill for integration than does that of 'h2g2'. It also seems that 'Collective' is evolving in that direction.



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Subject: Bottoms up
Posted Sep 13, 2005 by   Traveller in Times >42 )^( _
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Traveller in Time <tit> read the post but did not find the 'but'
"Do not take Collective by the name, they are Collective, but nor as HooToo is Collective the place for all to gather.

This is the HUB, the place where all communities and message boards come together. Well, in my perspective it is, there is a HooToo alike/ HooToo mixed up Help section to help the 'Explorers' find their way around the DNA cluster.

Even with this HUB, some, no, _most_ things are site specific. As in the site Hosts have to deal with most of their own business. Only on very rare occasions the HUB is the place to be.


Even most experienced HooToo citizens do not post to the HUB ('they say I have to sign in' or some excuse) it is unknown territory for them, and they do not feel at ease enough to speak up their 'problems' < F615?thread=1001878 >.

However it could/ would be of use for each and every site to have their own bypass to the central HUB. <erm> Well, make it a page on the hub where all 'local' complaints offices are registered, and a link from those complaint offices to the HUB.

For example < /dna/h2g2/FeedBack > and a link to the other sister sites Feedback forums. But then again, the local Hosts have dealt with the feedback of their users for many years, so why should they bother about us, or why should we bother about them?

Well at least some kind of collective (not only on Collective) 'Downtime Report' Forum would give some more overview. I happened to check the < /dna/mb606/info > just after the hickup this afternoon, and there they had some five threads reporting the event. [of the about 75 marked (Just Now)]
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