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Posted Apr 30, 2009 by spritznar | | Post: 1
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sorry to be dragging up a subject that's been dropped for 3 years, but seeing as the article was still generating comments 5 years after being published i hoped no one would object if i added a few extra late thoughts...
i had two things to address. neither is really about the article per se, they were just tangential thoughts inspired by the article that might add a different perspective
first;
"It is a fact that sex scenes in books, films and TV are frequently appallingly written; the same is true of fan fiction"
“As a disclaimer, I have never, _ever_ read a well-written sex scene anywhere. It is possible that no such beast exists”
ok, admitedly a lot of sex scenes are poorly written or poorly handled, especially in fanfiction were there's no enforced editing to weed out the most appalling ones. but i do also wonder if the extremity of that statement is just your perception. people take in and process the world differently. i personally can't watch a sex scene on tv without discomfort, embarassment or mild nausea but i do enjoy written erotica. for some reason i connect well with the written word and it just works for me. maybe you're just the opposite? maybe something about written sex scenes causes a disconnect for you and makes it unpleasant and uncomfortable.
second;
"There are two common definitions of slash fiction, each paired with a definition of gen fiction.
1. Fan fiction incorporating intimate/sexual encounters between characters of the same sex.
2 Fan fiction incorporating intimate/sexual encounters between characters who do not have, and never have had, such a relationship in the canon material.
While the nature of broadcast television means that examples of the first definition are almost always included in the latter..."
due to the lack of mainstream media depicting homosexual relationships, is it possible there are more well written slashfics than het ones? i've wondered this for a while but have no convenient way of confirming or debunking the idea. since i read femslash almost exclusively i can't speak for the het or even m/m slash, but i've noticed there are a number of notable and extremely prolific writers of lesbian fiction (some of whom are published) in the fanfiction communities i frequent. if the mainstream media refuses to write the relationships you want you're more likely to write them yourself. also, it seems to me a lot of good lesbian writers enjoy fanfiction because it provides an appreciative (and receptive) audience. not to mention a lot of uber xena fics are, for all practical purposes, original works if they later decide to try for publication...
(to clarify: when i say lesbian author i'm refering to an author who writes for a lesbian audience, they needn't actually be lesbians... or even women)
since i'm looking at this from up close and personal i can't take the objective step back to know if it's true or not but the logic seems sound to me. if you're an unestablished lesbian author it's easier to build a fanbase (and hone your skills) writing fanfiction in a femslash friendly online community than to try selling something targeted to a minority to the general public.
i'm in no way implying all femslash is well written, i'm just wondering if maybe it's closer to the 90% rule of rubish than the 99% one, since the internet is picking up some of the slack where mainstream media is lacking.
*shrug*
just a thought
Oh it's nice to see someone here!
It's interesting what you say - and who knows, you could be right.
I have heard that there is now a booming market for m/m fiction (of a non fic type) and a couple of fanfic writers have gone on to sell a few books, which is good. So you never know - there is most likely a market "out there" for f/f novels.
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Posted May 2, 2009 by spritznar
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"there is most likely a market "out there" for f/f novels."
why the quotes on "out there"?
upon further thought, i think it's mostly the xena fanfiction archives that seem to collect (or create) publishing authors.
the xena franchise is very fanfic friendly (http://www.xenaville.com/cast/missy.html for example), and has lots of wonderful subtext
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Posted May 2, 2009 by spritznar
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while i was writing that last reply and contemplating the author list at the Royal Academy of Bards, my brain temporarily exploded when i discovered Geonn, from Area 52, was listed there.
i don't usually see crossover in the xena and sg1 fandoms...
ps: how do you make words into links?
I wrote "out there" because I always like to separate cyberspace from RL (at least in my own mind)
Words can only be links in entries, not in posts, unfortunately. But since I'm rubbish at GuideML I'm not the right person to ask.
Area52... haven't been there in yonks, I really must have a mosey around and see what's what.
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Posted May 2, 2009 by spritznar
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how long is a yonk?
a little bit less than an eon.
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