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Benoit17
Date: 10   March   2007
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The following is a collage of thoughts taken from several entries I
made in a certain week, with various sites and persons. I posted it as an answer to a question on a site dedicated to African youth, as to how do we adress war, and all of the plights that come
from it.
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JUSTICE MUST FIRST COME ALIVE IN EACH HEART AND SPIRIT

As long as tolerance remains an ideal to aim for, then distance and
discomfort will prevail between cultures and people. Tolerance is not an ideal but a bare minimum component of a civil society. It allows for the flexibility of wisdom and patience to keep us in co-existance mode, while we go on learning to grow with one another from stranger to family.

Tolerance is the limit that frames civility. Past a certain point of
descency, there is no tolerance left and what comes next must be addressed immediatly, before it becomes infectious; that is what's called The Rule of Law.

Therefore, the question becomes "How do we build the environment to
cultivate tolerance into mutual care?"

If we want to see caring from stranger to family to happen, each culture must adapt to grow in the justice that produces personal peace and joy, causing all parties to flourish into the movement of a mature people of all people. Such justice is the gift of God into each one's heart and spirt.

The passage of God's gift from our heart to our soul and from our spirit to our body is when and where unity gets to be woven into holiness.

This Covenant of renewal from animal to spiritual becomes the personal and family responsability, first of all, and then, from family to family we learn to go from the spiritual division of our dna and we move into the organic experience of spiritual unity.

Such personal discipline and communal journey is the only way to secure the harmonization of cultures into a mature people of all people.

So the battle ground becomes everything we each think, say and do. The victory evolves around seizing the best possible opportunity available to carry on this journey of redeeming each moment from out of the dead state of spiritual division and into the clarity of live transparency, where love rules from the living inner-justice.

One point of gravity to deploy such movement from local to global and beyond the confusion of religion, is "The Faculty of Living" where all human experience, knowledge, sciences and faculties meet up in the assembling of one another's relativity and proximity into the settlement of life's essence or as it is known to Christianity, eternal life.

From such culture comes the personal peace and joy to feed social justice connecting the populations into the oneness of "The Solemn Beauty of Being Human answering the Ancient Voice of Humanity's Youth in the fluid acdaptation of Common Sense!"

In more simple terms, we must grow from competing to completing upon the road from stranger to family! There is only mutual subjection in love and truth that can do that!

The just shall live by faith! Such is how God becomes the gift, being Himself the source of justice Who sustains the battle of reconciliation, of mercy, of compassion and of community building...

Ultimatly, The Faculty of Living is a service offered for the restoration of personal and of communal spiritual simplity. The service it offers to humanity, is to cultivate the expereince and the discipline of The Perpetual Celebration of Easter upon the Land of Emmanuel.

...may God shine forth such glory of His presence into our midst, across all of the earth...

...may all blessings be with us all...
Benoit Couture
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Question about The Passion movie from Mel Gibson


Possible move toward "The PCE" upon "The LI"

Hi everyone,

In the subtitle above, "The PCE" means: The Perpetual Celebration of Easter, since Jesus-Christ is raised from the dead at all times and His Spirit is with each one who seeks God until repentance and faith are given to supply the eternal life acquired by the Lord's resurrection and exultation at the right hand of the Father!
The PCE is not to be confused with the tradition of celebrating Easter once a year, in the riutal of a man-made calendar, because resurrection and the faith it supplies are not a ritual but instead, it is the life of the divine nature being made flesh in all who recieve the gift from God and who learn the constant discipline of following the Spirit's lead to my spirit.

"The LI" means The Land of Immanuel. Immanuel is used in the Old Testament prophecies to announce the birth of Christ on earth and it means "God among us". Christianity's calendar made it the tradtion of Chrismas.
So "The Perpetual Celebration of Easter upon the Land of Immanuel" is the simple recovery of the simplicity of our devotion to Christ as He institutes it here and now from eternity, with the glory of God to unite humanity with grace and truth that produce personal justice, peace and joy.
This is the clear passage into simplicity from amidst all the complexities that have been multiplied into a "black hole" kind of effect upon families' access to the passage, throughout most of christinity's history so far, because of "an accomodating traditional calendar of rituals" that has no root in the simplicity of God's Voice, leading His Church in the clarity of transparency, where genuine radiancy of Intelligence can free humanity from the military confinements we are in, because of the entity of terror-anti-terror that makes up the animal nature of the Adam species!!!

So in the hope to be heard by God, here is a thought from an independent thinker, grown into a prayer intended to reach Mel Gibson's attention, with a follow up suggestion to his movie "The passion":

...with hope and love...
Benoit

Pasted from:
http://www.housechurch.org/cgi-bin/bbcgi_hc/ bb.cgi/ubb/ get_topic/ f/3/t/000203/ p/1.html# 000001

Someone wrote:

After watching the movie 'the passion....' , i posed a question to
friends regarding Jesus asking the Lord why he had forsaken him,
which was one of his last words on the cross. If Jesus knew what was
happening all along, why would he have asked this. Can anyone
explain...

...and I replied:

Jesus became "curse" on our behalf. The essence of the curse upon
Adam and Eve is one of eternal rejection, away from eternal love.
When one feels the experience of rejection, then one is felling
forsaken.
No matter how much He knew what was happening, the unbearable
intensity of the pain caused by the curse kept His body of sin and
His innocent condition of being the Lamb of God in the state of
interogation.
When Jesus called out to the Father on the cross, that was the peak
of the moment that defines "the son of man-The Son of God"
relativity of Jesus The Christ of God and it is also the moment when
all 3, The Father, The Son and The Spirit were together, yet apart,
having to take on the excruciating pain of eternal seperation caused
by the curse, so as to bring to completion the Ministry of
Reconcilition.
No other human being could have ever taken upon themselves such
position of mediator and neither could have anyone else taken on
what came after the cross, for the time it took for His return to
life, in the transfigured body. Feeling eternally forsaken lasted
until then for Jesus.
This mission of being forsaken unjustly while fogiving those
responsible for His death, was when and where God was in Christ,
completing the mortality part of the reconciliation of the world
unto Himself, opening up the passage so that He would not have to
impute sins upon humanity and putting into us the word of
reconciliation as though God was beseeching people to "please, be
reconciled to God"!
This was when and where Jesus was bringing to an end, all that is
born in Adam, before descending into death;
from that time on the cross to His exultation at the right hand of
the Father, was the moment when He went from being the last Adam to
then becoming the life-giving Spirit.

The practical aspect of Jesus having taken on the entire depth of
the curse means to me that no matter how lonely and rejected I have
been or will be in this life, My Savior has been and will have been
my One Complete Brother by taking on the very curse that He had to
lay Himself upon humanity, so as to preserve His own Holiness and to
deal with Lucifer's actions of the past, while leaving the door open
for His salvation to eventually come through during the course of
human history.
The curse He layed upon humanity was to keep His purity pure, while He demonstrated His creating Lordship over all matters of life and death by taking on the effects of the curse with the same humanity as us all.
Our experience of the cross must come after denying ourselves. Failing to deny ourselves while carrying the cross is the best receipe to feel the effects of the curse in body and soul, even if salvation has been received in the heart and in the spirit.
Instead of experiencing the power of the cross as the freeing power of God to those who are being saved, by not denying ourself we end up
getting the cursed part of the cross, having to learn the hard way what should be an easy yoke to bear.

As I wrote this last paragraph, our Lord graciously taught me where I went wrong for all these years.

Dear Lord, show me how to deny myself along with all that You have
forsaken in Jesus in that ultimate moment on the cross;
guide us all I pray in the way that breathes the curse out of Your
people, by the work of Your Spirit in our spirit, Who reaches in to
bring life to our mortal body with life from You and from Your gift of eternal life in our heart, which grows our soul's renewal according to Your will and good pleasure...amen to Your Yes in us all...

Ps: Dear Lord, if You see fit, perhaps could You inspire Mel Gibson
with a movie of what You went through during the 3 days in death.
Special effects and all, as only You can possibly know, while keeping Mel and all who see the movie from its insanity, making us all worship Your Presence, praising Your Voice and thanking Your Action...amen

...may all blessings be with us all...
Benoit Couture
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PERSONAL CONTRIBUTION

There is a pathway guided by God's voice for such connectivity to take root according to His good pleasure, across the complete spectrum of human spiritual unity, from cyber space to reality and back into a co-production involving CBC-BBC-PBS, involving the universal scope of the internet's potential for serene grassroot mobilisation.
This is why the focus of my writing is located from the position that life has given as a "stay-at-home-dad-grand-dad-citizen-voter-taxpayer". In doing so, I seek to bring the elements needed to open up a scalable model of a community center that will be open 24/7.
The center, that I wish to call "Night Time Padre", will bring together an alliance between the practices of Restorative Justice and Community Mental Health to guide the community in the comfort zone, where individuals can weave the local social fabric with the disciplines of music and traditional medicines, based upon the Chinese Traditional Medicine.
All of what I seek to achieve comes from my personal needs that find no answers in most of the western practices and life styles.
Because I have no diploma to sell my ideas with, I am stuck waiting for the day when we, my family and I, can connect into a source of funding that can afford to treat me into the journey's completion of renewal from animal to spiritual and thereby, setting the tone to move forward with the vision.
The closest that reality and all of that writing comes together from out of cyber space is currently wrapped into an initiative called "Healing the Inner Circle". It started with an NGO micro grant last year. It started like that:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/A9247296 and it has recently been forced by our eviction for March 31 to become this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/A19547878

As a starting point of societal interest and in order to establish the initial model of Night Time Padre most efficiently socially and to be best positioned strategically to ensure the proper involvement of technology to spread the model and to feed the co-production of CBC-BBC-PBS, I offer the following:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/A20468757

If you wish to explore the constant adaptation of my focus into that journey, you can go to my personal space at h2g2 When you get to the bottom of the page, there are the entries guide. There you find several pages of titles that you can look into.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/U1590685

When it comes to the discussions in which I took part, trying to promote such thoughts, you can look :
http://www.knowledgeboard.com/item/618/pg_dtl_art_news/pg_hdr_art/pg_ftr_art

and for more at the EU Knowledgeboard, you can go to the bottom of the page at:
https://secure.knowledgeboard.com/cgi-bin/whoswho.cgi?action=detail&authorid=11471&id=7464:

Of course, there are the many letter sent to the various groups of Minciu Sodas in which I seek to motivate cyber space into focus of passing opportunities. When I answered to Andrius request: "What are our dreams for 2007", I think I put it all in a context where opportunity and possibility can meet:
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cyfranogi/message/1938
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Pasred from Radically Christian Café

Quote:
Originally posted by Relic:

Benoit17,
...I do believe that the Church, Christ's bride, "moves against the gates of hell", as you say, but I also think that individual servents must be the same.
After all, it is individual servents that form the very Church of Christ- an example of this comes from King David, when he alone fought Goliath...
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And I answered with:

"When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
Then He commanded His disciples that they should tell no one that He was Jesus the Christ." Mt 16,13-20

Relic, thank you for insisting that the individual beleiver has ground to move victoriously against the prevailing of the gates of hades.
The rock that the revelation of Who Jesus is, provides the basis for the victory over the power of death. This is why the Ortodox tradition carries the following in their arsenal against hades. They repeat,
"Lord Jesus-Christ, Son of God, have mercy upon me sinner"
until victory apears and/or reapears in their inner most being and that worship, praise and thanksgiving get restored to go on healthy.
Not so much the repeating but the resting upon the meaning of the words in that simple prayer has saved me and my loved ones more than once, because of its simplicity in covering the complete depth of Jesus' victory on earth, between heaven and hades.
In that way, that prayer acts as a perpetual point of entry into the law of spirit of life that sets us free from the law of sin and of death, because it calls upon the full power of the ministry of reconciliation.

The more I contemplate this fresh revelation dear Relic, the more I come to see that hades and our personal mortality operate together. From this point of view, mortality is seen as the gates of hades, where our instincts rule our souls and bodies from, as they are rooted in the nature we receive from mom and dad.
The revelation of Who Jesus-Christ is, once given by the Father Who is in heaven, is always an individual point of contact for each person, which gets executed by the Father revealing His Son with the gift of Their Spirit, participating to keep us in the divine company on earth, until Jesus returns.

This heavenly knowledge offers me fresh ground to re-enforce the personal key concept I use to keep the chartering of my individual history on earth, well grounded into God's calling for my life.
Because I am searching God to find out how His version of unity is to be lived by His people, and how it gets to be deployed from His calling in the context that He has set up my life into, this key concept of mine is:

"Going from the spiritual division of our DNA to the organic experience of spiritual unity"

Without such personal and communal journey, there is no possible house church.

"I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height— to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen. Ep 3, 14-21

My name means: "The seam blessed of God". The seam being the family name and blessed of God being Benoit, my given name.

In my work for the Lord, the key concept becomes focused into opening "The Faculty of Living" where all human experience, knowledge, sciences and faculties meet in the assembling of mutual completion from out of competition.
This Faculty of Living is the human state of the Eternal's life in our midst, once hades gets to be overcome, namely, "The just shall live by faith".

Once God is pleased by the Faith coming alive and mature in a neighbourhood, we are then equipped to move on as one in this world with "God's one bank account operation". The scriptural basis for God's one bank account operation:

"If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”; and again, “The LORD knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.” Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours: whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas, or the world or life or death, or things present or things to come—all are yours. And you are Christ’s, and Christ is God’s." 1 Cor 3,18-23


From here, the people either grow into the Church of Acts or hades goes on prevailing:

The "here"

being

"The Perpetual Celebration of Easter upon The Land of Immanuel", being the meeting of completion of the personal into the communal by God's presence, will and pleasure from our worship";

where the fulness of wholeness dwells...

Of course, at this point of the journey, with such personalized language and with a non-traditional aproach, I am alone with my wife, waiting for the Lord to take us into His completion movement, which goes with or without such personalized language and non-traditional aproach.

Some major house church movement call this completion, God's recovery plan and they go on re-inventing everything, as if God had fallen off the earth at some point, and yet, claiming to be where God is at on earth.
"The Perpetual Celebration of Easter upon The Land of Immanuel" is not a re-invention but a simplification of the Lord's message, from out of all Christian religiosity and into the final refining components of the Faith and of the Church, in which simplicity is restored into the fulness of God's glory in our midst.

God is working at the completion of that which He recovered by the work of Jesus. It is all finished. The need to invent a recovery comes from not knowing God's completion through time. This need to claim that God is recovering anything indicates ignorance of the words that proceed out of God's mouth, here and now.
I once tried to engage the people of this house church movement with the idea of God's one bank account operation and suddenly, it was a cahos of complexities, where the fulness of all in all vanished instantly into a theory that had no ground to be practiced in the midst of their doctrine.

So if the Lord allows me and my wife to actually begin to sprout into the completion of the Church with such a daring move as this "God's one bank account operation", then we will deploy our service into a community centre opened 24/7.
The centre will serve the neighbourhood by spreading The Faculty of Living, offering the victory over stress and the human compulsive nature.
The assurance I have to go on in such a pursuit is that there is only God Who can host such a process. It re-assures me greatly.
But to do so, He needs some bodies who offer themselves to Him as a living sacrifice, so that the spiritual service of worship does not get interrupted.
No interruption to the wroship in truth and in spirit means that the gates of hades no longer prevails, because the love of God is coming through in action and in truth, deploying God's Kingdom with Him drawing people into The Perpetual Celebration of Easter upon The Land of Immanuel...

...enough for now, I am starting to bulge of anticipation...

...please Lord, allow Yourself all the way to completion in my life and in all those whom You are leading to defeat hades from within ourselves to the extremities of the earth, now and for ever and ever. Show us how to live within Your one bank account operation and bring us to see Your Kingdom prosper in our midst, leading individual wealth to serve You with all the properity You have to offer...amen to Your YES in us all...

...all blessings be with us all...
Benoit Couture






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