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Posted Oct 16, 2009 by AndyD 185
I'm a 18 yr old student who cycles the five miles in to collage every day, which is ok, keeps me fit; but for a long time now i've been really wanting to get a 125 motorbike and licence, partly because it would make commuting easier, but mainly because i love motorbikes. Unfortunately my mum is very much against this idea, quote, "you're not getting a motorbike whilst you're living under my roof."
so does anyone have any advice on helping me to achive this, or do you think i'm just gonna have to carry on riding a cycle for the next year or so  until i move out.
Andy
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Posted Oct 16, 2009 by Taff Agent of Kaos.We are Borg....Resistance is Futile....Bufoons are Go
i have a moto roma virage 125 needs about £3-400 spent on it you can have it for £100
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Posted Oct 16, 2009 by AndyD 185
haha, i think the main obstacle to get around is my mum. 
what condition is it anyway?
Andy
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Posted Oct 16, 2009 by Taff Agent of Kaos.We are Borg....Resistance is Futile....Bufoons are Go
needs a new altinator and voltage regulator, apart from that its fine
can only be got from some place on tinternet, they get from italy, hence the cost
i have a new xt660 and need the space in the garage hence the £100 take away fee
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Posted Oct 16, 2009 by AndyD 185
aren't you advertising on ebay?
I'm interested but those bikes appear to suffer from un-reliability, and as I'm not in any hurry to buy one I might as well wait for a Suzuki or Yamaha, as I'm used to them and have spares, from my old ts185 field bike.
It's just a shame that my old TS185 isn't a TS125 (still a hell of a lot of fun though  ).
Andy
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Posted Oct 20, 2009 by Ictoan S.H.A.D.O.W. Secretary - AWE - WAWi
tbh, there is no really easy way around it. I had similar from my folks although no outright ban just a 'if you get one you can't park it on the property' knowing fine well that'd prob mean it'd get nicked. As getting it meant that I could get a job and socialise more both without having to use my parents as a taxi I think they took the approach that it was all part of my growing up and independence so, whilst not ideal, it was better than not. Driving was not an option as I didn't have a license, couldn;t afford to get one and parents only offered to pay half towards the lessons (I couldn't afford the other half!).
Mind you I know at least one mate of mine in his mid 30s who hides his 'bike and leathers and lid at a mates whenever his mum comes to visit! She's apparently still convinced he doesn;t even have the license!
I'd make my case for independence and also point out that you're really into them, banning you from them now isn't going to stop you getting one when you do move out, you aren't going to 'grow out of it' as she may think and at least whilst you are living at home she will have more knowledge of where/when you are so if you do have an accident she's going to be in the know sooner rather than if you are living away from home when you could be in a ditch somewhere for days before she finds out (careful with that line of reasoning though  ). Also find out if there is a specific reason (has someone she knows had a bad accident?). But likely she thinks putting her foot down now will nip the urge in the bud and prevent you wrecking your life in a bad accident at a young age. It'll also mean when you do move away you'll have more road experience so travelling home won;t be a sudden new experience full of danger as you'll have the experience to be safe on a longer journey.
I imagine she's just worried - she's got to learn to let go and let you do what you want to do. 
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Posted Oct 20, 2009 by AndyD 185
right here goes, i don't know where you live but chances are you'll hear the sounds of me getting grief. when you do hear it please say a quiet prayer. 
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Posted Oct 21, 2009 by Ictoan S.H.A.D.O.W. Secretary - AWE - WAWi
15hrs and no report - I do hope your mum didn't get the slipper out to teach you a lesson
Best of luck, and bear in mind you'll be able to rib her about this for years to come when you are older. I always like to remind my folks of such decisions. But not too hard, there is no manual for bringing up your kids and how to react and she's got a hard decision to make. She'll no doubt be worried about getting it right.
<luck>
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Posted Oct 22, 2009 by AndyD 185
mhbbrrflurble.
strict chat followed by concerned persuasion, now dad's on her side, and he seems to have a few friends from his old biker days who've had an accident or two (as well as himself), just to use as examples.
aww well, i'll give it a bit until my next try, i guess they're just worried, still can't help feeling $@*?ing annoyed though.
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Posted Oct 23, 2009 by Ictoan S.H.A.D.O.W. Secretary - AWE - WAWi
ah well, it does take them a while to realise that attempting to influence you is OK but ultimately they have to let you make your own decisions in life.
I wonder how well they would have reacted as 18yr olds to being told what to do in no uncertain terms by their parents?
Best of luck!
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Posted Oct 25, 2009 by AndyD 185
I don't want them to sound unfair, just because they won't let me have a motorbike on the road, I suspect they just have a picture of me lying paralysed on a hospital bed, which I can understand. Because they aren't unfair, my dad's insured me on his car, they're not too restrictive, they don't embarrass me too much , in fact if I could grow to be as good a dad as mine is I would be a very happy person.
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Posted Oct 25, 2009 by  jimcracker7[Time for the second lightening strike]
hi
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this might sound crazy, and you might not find one.
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but when i was young, there was a motor you could attach to the back wheel of a bike, saved peddling on the straight,
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not a motorbike, but could solve the problem.
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or get a moped,or mobealet.
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just a few ideas. jim
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Posted Oct 26, 2009 by AndyD 185
your right, that is a crazy idea.
my younger cousins got one on his bike, though its barely 25cc, I don't think it would be legal.
And I am NOT getting a moped, they're more dangerous as far as I'm concerned, plus "chav's" use them (you know someone's a "chav" when they ride their moped with their feet on the rear passenger footpegs. Why, I don't know.) I can't imagine how riding round on top of two very small wheels can be stable, or safe .
Thanks for the suggestions though. 
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Posted Oct 27, 2009 by jimcracker7[Time for the second lightening strike]
hey if its stability you want, and a motorbike, what about a three wheel chopper, its stable, and there are diff types.
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jim
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Posted Oct 27, 2009 by AndyD 185
i hate to pick negatives about suggestions, but a three wheeler is a vehicle which seems to combine all of the disadvantages of cars and motorbikes, its wide, hard to park, and heavy like a car, but dangerous and exposed like a motorcycle.
what i've always been aiming for is a 2-stroke 125 bike like a suzuki TS/TC or a Yamaha DT, because their tall enough to give good viability, reliable and simple to maintain. they're also quite powerful and (excuse my vanity) look quite good.
that said i'd jump at the change to try this out http://spyder.brp.com/
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Posted Oct 28, 2009 by jimcracker7[Time for the second lightening strike]
hi i,ll leave you with this thought, lol
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as, from what you said, your mother wont let you have a bike, and its five miles to uni.
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for uni, get one of these new fangled power scooter, they dont have move, or even one of the two wheeled gyro ones, as in the 118 118 advert, they look cool, and the firm that makes them, all the staff use them to get around the works, i watch a programme on them the other night. jim
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Posted Oct 28, 2009 by AndyD 185
do you mean segways, where u stand on a board which has handlebars like a scooter and wheels either side of it. that would be amazing, i'll have a look on e-bay. i'd love to go round collage on them, especially seeing as the collage has been virtually re-designed for wheelchairs.
i wonder how they perform uphill.
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Posted Oct 28, 2009 by Ictoan S.H.A.D.O.W. Secretary - AWE - WAWi
major problem with Segways - not allowed on the pavement in the UK and not allowed on the road either. Most public places ban them along with skateboards etc as well. So pretty much useless over here.
"a three wheeler is a vehicle which seems to combine all of the disadvantages of cars and motorbikes"
Very true. You get wet and blown about like on a bike but get stuck in traffic like a car. They can, however, be undeniably cool. Ultimate poseurs vehicle - looks cool, actually not much good. I kinda want one though so shan't diss them too much
Oh and those spyder things are cool. There's a couple of others out there too - including a french one that 'leans' round corners, a brit one that uses a bmw 1200cc engine and a rather odd one from Germany (of course).
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Posted Oct 29, 2009 by AndyD 185
yes useless though trikes are, they do seem to be oddly attractive, maybe because they're just cool .
i'm not that bothered about the law against segways on puplic paths, since i don't have the money to buy one, but it does seem a bit stupid for them to not be allowed, since they're not exactly the fastest thing on two wheels.
The spyder's something i'd very much like to have a go with but not something i'd want to live with .
i think i'll go on the triumph website and have a go on the triumph customiser (http://www.triumph.co.uk/uk/configuratorPopup.aspx), speed triple i think.  also not the most useful vehicle ever made, but also undeniably cool.
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Posted Oct 29, 2009 by Ictoan S.H.A.D.O.W. Secretary - AWE - WAWi
ah yes, speed triples. Like them, I do.
not the most useful? Whatever do you mean? Very useful for the twisties and pulling wheelies! And useful for holding the high ground against the plastic fantastics
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