|  Posted May 29, 2007 by mastermary_fairy i know... but why did people make big brother for? i mean its like a total way to get people to argue and live in one house i mean come on .....?
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 Posted May 29, 2007 by __rai__ its such a crap programme! it takes up the good time slot on channel four and runs for aaaaaages
and theres all those horrible side programmes too - bblb, russle brand should die grr!
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 Posted May 29, 2007 by Alfredo
I'm ashamed.
Big Brother TV ( as a concept) is a Dutch invention by the very rich media man John de Mol.
Started around 1998 ?
After that he sold the concept to the USA, but no sex in it.
I don't know how the English version is.
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 Posted May 30, 2007 by __rai__ oooh are you from holland? there was something on the news today about this new programme, a gameshow where contestants are competing for a kidney! is this true?
big brother isnt so bad they just make it rele bad here with so many side shows and its on at prime time!
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 Posted May 31, 2007 by Alfredo Yes, that's right. That's Friday June 1 of 2007. The guy who started this TV station all by himself was severely ill his whole live from kidney diseases = Bart de Graaf.
It's a very unconventional TV (and radio) station, but I have been a street corner worker for many years and also worked in Youth detention centers and I have great respect for the quality they achieve, within the alliance with their focus group = 14-25.
In the core, it's a very trustworthy, benevolent and inspiring station. Not for me, because I am not their peer group. But they have my greatest respect and every day they succeed in catching the attention from teenagers this way, it's a good thing.
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 Posted Jun 1, 2007 by __rai__ dont you think its slightly unethical? theres no laws on tv in holland right?
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 Posted Jun 1, 2007 by mastermary_fairy yo _rai_ i totally agree wid u but also u know they could put something more intresting on then having to watch people argue and not co-operate well wid eachowa (other)
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 Posted Jun 1, 2007 by Alfredo Knowing BNN it is possible that they never intended to make that show at all, and were just interested in the fuss around it.
Of course TV has it's moral codes in The Netherland, like in most other countries.
Maybe even my own daughter is working at the program as a producer. I have not asked her. Always bussy, sometimes even arriving at seven in the morning.But she is not an employee of any tv station.
The respect that I have for BNN is, because of the fact that deep down the real aim is to keep in touch with young peoples and try to give them besides fun and excitement also education and inspiration in the right direction.
MTV is rotten to the core. Can not be compared with.
But I cannot imagine that a TV station like BNN (started just ten years ago) can stay in touch with young persons (who also(!) look at MTV and many other comm. stations), while putting a positive morality in it. That's a hell of a job, and it would be a miracle if they would succeed in it in another five years. After that it will probably become just entertainment.
It all depends on which peergroup one wants to reach.
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 Posted Jun 1, 2007 by mastermary_fairy yes, i certainly agree it does depend on which peergroup one wants to achieve
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 Posted Jun 1, 2007 by __rai__ and also e4 doesnt play music now.......it streams big brother live! argh what a crime especially as im home all daytime cause of study leave
mtv has declined so much since the 90s! i used to watch it all the time because it was actually good but now its full of reality shows!
tv in general has gone downhill very recently......the popularity of programmes such as big brother and wife swap just proves this!
that channel (bnn) sounds quite good!
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 Posted Jun 1, 2007 by Alfredo
Yes, the BNN story is unique. The guy who started it was Bart. He started in a program of a commercial TV-station. I'll describe it in a graphical way, as he would have wanted it. First watching him could be quite a shock. He was ugly to see and very small. The cause of that misery was his severe illness of his kidneys.
But he had a unique Calimero-power and lots of humor and he suddenly got his idea of a special "Bart-Television station" within the regular, non commercial stations in Holland.
And yes, after a few years he indeed got his own station. Besides his inner strength, his charisma and humor he also knew the Dutch television world in all its details.
He just could ring an important TV personality out of bed at 3 in the morning to offer him a piece of cake. Or he let himself locked in a restaurant and made a program during the night and at around five o’clock in the morning he'd call the police to ask them to let him out.
The team around him was enthusiastic, socially engaged, talented and after his death (36?) his team took the full responsibility and they still do their job very well. The real sexy women seduce the adolescents to look further into the world than just their breasts alone and it's convincing, because they are who they are.
I did not look Dutch TV tonight. I'm tired and looked at England-Brazil.
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 Posted Jun 2, 2007 by __rai__ :O the whole programme was a hoax!!!!!!!! but apparently it worked as many people signed up to be organ donors while the programme was on.........
england brazil match was very disappointing! i started to watch ugly betty instead.....
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 Posted Jun 2, 2007 by Alfredo
Yes, I did have the feeling that it all might turn out to be a fake happening. BNN does make programs with sometimes very high integrity.
And now they have shown how to get new donors among young and old peoples.
Just actors!
I expected them to do something else from the very beginning, but now They did act as if and at the end.....
P.S. How many peoples/news editors will be disappointed that it has not been what they expected? No reason for sensation anymore Awful. No Sodom and Gomorra anymore in Holland. Nothing to complain about!
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 Posted Jun 4, 2007 by luckywillzy123 it is so crap what a waste of time if they are going to make bif brother make a rule of no bullying and it is all a fix like eurovision
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 Posted Jun 4, 2007 by luckywillzy123 what are you on about the england brazil game was good i thought it is the best weve played since the world cup.
with david beckahm back we look so much more competative but mcclaren got to get the chop have sir alex furgason or sam allyrdice as manager steve is crap
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 Posted Jun 4, 2007 by Alfredo Well, the game wás a bit dull, but sometimes worth looking and yes, GB did win !
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 Posted Jun 9, 2007 by mastermary_fairy i liked the game tooo
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 Posted Jun 9, 2007 by mastermary_fairy to luckywillzy123 y do u think big brother is crap?
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