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Posted Jul 25, 2001 by iaoth
"BDSM (Bondage and Discipline / Domination and Submission)" seems to imply that "SM" is short for "Domination and Submission". "Sadomasochism" is probably the word you're looking for.
The footnote says "-gerg" instead of "-berg".
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Posted Jul 25, 2001 by Fragilis - h2g2 Cured My Tabular Obsession
Thanks, iaoth. Hopefully someone will come around soon with a magic marker. 
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Posted Jul 25, 2001 by iaoth
Well, that's what I'm here for. I'm constantly nitpicking.  Well, at least when come across good Entries like this one and actually read them...
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Posted Jul 25, 2001 by Ashley
I've waved my wand and it should be fixed now. 
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Posted Jul 25, 2001 by iaoth
Nice. I see you kept the Dominance/submission as an explanatory alternative to Bondage/Discipline. I don't know if I think it's informative or just messy...  Maybe Fragilis has an opinion?
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Posted Jul 25, 2001 by Fragilis - h2g2 Cured My Tabular Obsession
Thanks for the swami routine, Ashley.
Well, there's no single or clear way to spell out BDSM. All the words Ashley's used are appropriate and are used by some people. I think if folks want more information about what BDSM means, they can follow the link provided.
So I guess I like it fine.
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Posted Jul 25, 2001 by iaoth
Strange, I thought BD was Bondage and Dominance (it is, according to Babylon, that also claims it's Australian slang) and SM was sadomasochism. Put 'em together...
Anyway, if you like it, it's fine. It's your Entry after all.
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Posted Oct 25, 2001 by Mina - Older on the outside, inside still 14
A bit late in here, but I always use those terms to describe BDSM too. 6 words shortened to 4 letters seems very efficient, and covers most kinks.
I came to say well done for the entry Frag. I'd heard of the film, but hadn't thought anything of it before I read this. Then I knew I had to! I've finally managed to see it and it's a great film and a great entry. Thanks very much.
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Posted Oct 26, 2001 by Fragilis - h2g2 Cured My Tabular Obsession
Thanks, Mina. I'm glad you finally watched the movie and enjoyed it.
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Posted May 18, 2003 by FordsTowel
Great job on a great flick. I wonder, however, why you found it difficult to discuss the dolls' (with metal teeth) representation of rebellious children, or women inhaling from hookahs (that lead to transparent vats containing floating men) representing corrupt laziness.
The melodrama with which most adults complain of children who seem ungrateful or greedy often generates talk of pain, suffering, slowly being bled, etc. The needs of the children are seen as a 'bound' duty, and the assault is multi-directional and persistent. (Thank God mine's a bit better than this)
The women, it seems to say, are those who derive their sustenance and pleasure from drawing energy and life from (or otherwise abusing) men who are unable to avoid their societally proscribed role of provider. This may have been a stab at stay-at-home wives who have no responsibilities; either no kids or home duties, or those having servants to take care of them. (Not to be confused with those who do take care of the kids, home, and a hundred other things.)
Overall, I was highly satisfied with the article and your observations. Again, great job.
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Posted May 19, 2003 by Fragilis - h2g2 Cured My Tabular Obsession
Good job, Fords Towel. I suppose I could have gone into the whole song and dance, but I wanted to keep the article down to a reasonable length. And there are so many interesting props used in the movie to make various points that one could go on for a very long time indeed.
It's great to see someone taking the time to add a little explanation in for anybody interested enough to check the conversations out. And I daresay you did a better job of being succinct than I could have done!
And thanks for the compliments, but take one for yourself too. 
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Posted May 20, 2003 by FordsTowel
Thanks much, Frag, for the appreciative reply! Someday I'll learn how to better emote my appreciation (once I learn how to use the smiley graphics).
I fully understand about trying to keep the size in check. I hope I do as well on my first (or thirtieth) entry.
I'm just glad I remember the film well enough to discuss it a bit; but, frankly, you saw a lot more in there than I took the time to look for back when. I mostly assimilated it as a romp. I rarely think to look for the social commentary in what appears to be light comedy.
You'd think that film appreciation class would have taught me better.
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