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Posted Jun 17, 2001 by Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress'
It's possible, though, to have the straight-edge dislike of mindlessly harmful behaviour without actually being part of the scene... isn't it? You could be someone who loathes smoking, doesn't drink to excess and etc. but who defines themselves as Goth, for example.
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Posted Jun 20, 2001 by shrinkwrapped
Yup, sure thing. A few people call themselves 'teetotal'...
But really, straight edge is linked to or inspired by the scene/movement, where as not smoking or drinking to excess is just common sense!
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Posted Jun 20, 2001 by Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress'
Common sense, definately. But if you make a point of these views, as well as following them, can you still be described as a straight-edger?
I've read just one thing in the British press about the movement, and it concentrated mainly on how 'hostile' and 'violent' they were. You made this point, I think; it does make better copy. But if anyone describes themself as straight-edge, they get a pretty negative reception. I'd like to be able to use the term as it's so convenient.
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Posted Jun 20, 2001 by shrinkwrapped
"But if you make a point of these views, as well as following them, can you still be described as a straight-edger?"
Well, I don't see why not. I called myself "straight edge" before I really knew anything about the history of the term, so I don't see why anyone else couldn't. I'm really no authority on the matter - in fact, as far as I'm aware, there ARE no authorities on the matter (it is a punk idea, after all!). As we were saying to Pillowcase in one of the other sXe forums, if someone has the principles of straight edge, and say they are straight edge, then they are!
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Posted Jul 1, 2001 by Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress'
That's alright, then. Thankyou.
(Signing off with a big X)
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Posted Jul 2, 2001 by shrinkwrapped
any time!
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Posted Feb 23, 2004 by PastureOfMuppets
I always associated straight edge with simply being well disciplined with your own integrity.
Top marks for mentioning Ian Mckaye.
It may have been mentioned, but their is a chapter on Minor Threat and one on Fugazi in the book "This band could be your life." ( i think it's that and not "our band...")
Also one on Steve Albini, a whole new way of tackling the world 
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Posted Feb 23, 2004 by shrinkwrapped
I'm reading that book right now!
It IS called 'Our Band Could Be Your Life', after the line from the Minutemen's song 'History Lesson - Part II'.
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Posted Mar 15, 2004 by PastureOfMuppets
Cool, i assume you enjoyed it. It's the first decent account i have seen of the whole thing that hasn't been Nirvana heavy. Gina Arnolds "666 The road to Nirvana" was really good like that as well if you haven't read that.
Let me know what you think of "Our band...." 
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