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Peer Review: A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 7, 2009 by Online NowGalaxy Babe - FP author
Entry: The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter - A59271203
Author: Galaxy Babe <poppy> - U128652

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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 7, 2009 by Gnomon
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Guess what I started working on last week? A36514055
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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 7, 2009 by Gnomon
where the Sun is the central body and everything else in the Solar System orbits it — and talked about Jupiter's moons revolving around it -- this is confusing, as it seems to say that the moons of Jupiter revolve around the Sun. I think you should reword it to say that the Sun is the central body and the planets revolve around it, and then specify that the moons of Jupiter revolve around Jupiter.

he was excommunicated and imprisoned for the rest of his life -- I don't think he was sent to prison. I think he was under "house arrest".

Is it worth mentioning when talking about plagiarism, that almost everything Galileo claimed to have discovered or invented was actually plagiarised from someone else?

You say that Epaphus was an ancestor of Heracles. But the Heracles entry says that Heracles was son of Zeus (Jupiter) and Alcmene. Was Alcmene descended from Epaphus?

own H2G2 Entry --> own h2g2 Entry

in our Solar System, at 2,634km -- change the comma to a semicolon

Callisto's surface is abundantly cratered from impacts of many millions of years' worth of bombardments from space. -- I'd say that differently. I'd say "Like our own Moon, Callisto's surface has not changed in billions of years, so it bears much cratering from impacts in the early history of the Solar System, when there were many more rocks flying about."

Galileo's discovery of Jupiter's main moons proved the case for heliocentrism -- it didn't actually prove it, it was just strong evidence for it.

the four largest Galilean moons -- there are only four Galilean moons. This suggests that there are more.

Footnote 2: change the first comma to a semicolon.

"Giordano Bruno ... for refusing to recant his beliefs." -- it was his belief in Pantheism that appears to have got him burnt alive.



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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 8, 2009 by pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain)

Excellent ok


Socially, extremely, and publicly make a noticeably dense cluster of adverbs in the following:

"Geocentricism is the belief that the Earth is centre of the Universe with all the other celestial bodies revolving around it. Socially it was extremely dangerous to publicly express your views if they clashed with those of the Roman Catholic Church, which had the power to charge 'blasphemers' with heresy and order their executions."

See if this doesn't help:

->Geocentricism is the belief that the Earth is centre of the Universe with all the other celestial bodies revolving around it. It was a perfectly safe belief as it was the one favoured by the Roman Catholic Church. On the other hand, it was quite unsafe to publicly express your views if they clashed with those of the Church, which had the power to charge 'blasphemers' with heresy and order their executions.<-


I know what you're saying here:

"...it is (sometimes) accepted that faith in whatever God whose teaching you choose to follow does not clash with science because it operates on a different level — accumulating data, experimentation and seeking to gain knowledge. "


And, I've heard it put a little differently in the context of Galileo vs the Church - here is a paraphrasing:

While Galileo had complete faith that the Bible was a sure map to Heaven, he did not believe that it was ever intended to be an accurate map of the heavens. For that, only careful observations of the natural world would do - and he saw no conflict in this.

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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 8, 2009 by Online NowGalaxy Babe - FP author
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I have no idea what you want to do about your entry, Gnomonerm if it's different from mine you can finish it and submit it to PR. Or did you want to incorporate what I haven't got, like the table, into this one, and make it a collaboration?

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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 8, 2009 by Gnomon
Well if there is anything in it that you didn't already know about, please use it. Otherwise, I'll just delete it.

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Posted Nov 8, 2009 by Gnomon
"it was quite unsafe to publicly express your views if they clashed with those of the Church, which had the power to charge 'blasphemers' with heresy and order their executions"

-- only if they were on the subject of God. They never charged anyone with blasphemy or heresy for scientific views.

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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 8, 2009 by Gnomon
"Because Galileo believed in the heliocentric theory — where the Sun is the central body and everything else in the Solar System orbits it — and specifically that the Earth moves, he was excommunicated and spent the rest of his life under house arrest."

-- thanks for changing that. To make it even more accurate, you could add after "the Earth moves":

"and portrayed the Pope as an idiot in his book for not agreeing with him"

smiley

But that might make the sentence a bit long.



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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 9, 2009 by Online NowGalaxy Babe - FP author
I didn't add a table of my own as I didn't want this science-based, but more about the history, which I think is fascinatingok

Regarding blasphemy, that word has always meant "showing disrespect or scorn for God" to me. Changing the order of things in the heavens was considered blasphemous because the Church believed God made the heavens with Earth at the centre.

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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 9, 2009 by Gnomon
The Church believed that science had shown that the Earth was in the centre. Ptolemy's book was based on careful observations and was very accurate at predicting the positions of the planets. Much more accurate than Copernicus's model. So it was the accepted view.

The Church said that Galileo could say that the Sun was the centre if he could prove it. Galileo produced a book with a flawed proof that the Earth moved based on an incorrect explanation of the tides, and called his friend the Pope an idiot in the book, so the Pope had him tried.

He was sentenced to a term in prison and a penance of saying lots of prayers, but he was let off the prison and allowed to return home, while he could get his female relatives who were nuns to say the prayers for him.



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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 9, 2009 by Gnomon
Here's an explanation of the vulcanism, if you want to use it:

"At its closest point to Jupiter, tidal forces stretch Io into an ellipsoid. At its further point from the planet 21 hours later, the tidal forces have eased off somewhat and the moon attempts to return to a sphere. This constant stress and strain causes friction within the moon, which heats it up causing the volcanic activity that has been observed."

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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 9, 2009 by Online NowGalaxy Babe - FP author
ok I have added that, with a minor tweak to avoid repetition, and given you an Additional Researcher credit smiley

Regarding the Pope, I've added <<and portrayed the Pope as an idiot in his book for not agreeing with him>> and rewritten it to form two sentences so it's not too long.

Thanks Gnomonbiggrin

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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 9, 2009 by Gnomon
Thanks, GB.

The "Because" is not needed in the sentence which starts "Because Galileo believed...".

I think I might write an Entry on Io, with more detail on its volcanoes and the amazing electromagnetic flux tube between it and Jupiter. These technical details would be out of place in your Entry.




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Posted Nov 9, 2009 by Online NowGalaxy Babe - FP author
ok
Do you want me to remove what you said earlier about Io's vulcanism then?

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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 9, 2009 by Gnomon
No.

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A59271203 - The History of the Galilean Moons of Jupiter
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Posted Nov 11, 2009 by Deke
I don’t think that Galileo was excommunicated. After his trial in 1633 he was made to recant his belief in Copernicism and was sentenced to imprisonment. This was reduced to being held under what amounted to house arrest. But there isn’t anything in the record of the judgement at his trial that shows that he was excommunicated from the RC church.
He was buried/interred in the Franciscan Church of Santa Croce, Florence. Not something that would have happened to anyone excommunicated from the church.

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Posted Nov 11, 2009 by Online NowGalaxy Babe - FP author
Then the EGE on Galileo is wrongdoh

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Posted Nov 11, 2009 by Deke
Yes, I think it's wrong.

That EGE could also do with a bit of an update, considering the subject.

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Posted Nov 11, 2009 by Online NowGalaxy Babe - FP author
It does need a complete rewrite. I agree with you, I'll tweak my entry. run

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Posted Nov 12, 2009 by Online NowGalaxy Babe - FP author
Having reported this to the Eds, A218440 has now been downgraded from EG status. I've been through the EG and removed each link to the Galileo entrybiro

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