BBC Home

Explore the BBC

h2g2
25th December 2009
Accessibility help
Text only

.

Conversation Forum


SEARCH h2g2
Edited Entries only
Search h2g2Advanced Search


New visitors: Create your membership
Returning members: Sign in
BBC Homepage
The Guide to Life, The Universe and Everything.

This is the Conversation Forum for The Raspberry
Contact Us


Like this page?
Send it to a friend!

 
Conversation list
<< More Raspberries

Cockney raspberries
Post: 1
Posted Apr 6, 2000 by Wand'rin star
"Raspberry" as insult comes from Cocknet rhyming slang "raspberry tart" = "fart" which is what a properly produced one is supposed to sound like

Reply 

No Previous PostNext Post
Click to Make a Complaint
The Parent Posting, to Which This is a Reply
An Older Reply to the Parent PostingThis PostingA Newer Reply to the Parent Posting
The First Reply to This Posting

Cockney raspberries
Post: 2
Posted Apr 6, 2000 by Abi
I had always wondered.....

but it took h2g2 to enlighten me!

Reply 

Previous PostNext Post
Click to Make a Complaint
The Parent Posting, to Which This is a Reply
An Older Reply to the Parent PostingThis PostingA Newer Reply to the Parent Posting
The First Reply to This Posting

Cockney raspberries
Post: 3
Posted Apr 6, 2000 by Seven Crocodile Rain
Since we are kind of on the subject, what does cockney mean?

Reply 

Previous PostNext Post
Click to Make a Complaint
The Parent Posting, to Which This is a Reply
An Older Reply to the Parent PostingThis PostingA Newer Reply to the Parent Posting
The First Reply to This Posting

Cockney raspberries
Post: 4
Posted Apr 7, 2000 by She Who Gratifies Gravity
I couldn't find cockney, but the Webster's dictionary does have cockade. bigeyes
Cockade:a knot of ribbon or something similar worn on a hat as a badge.

Reply 

Previous PostNext Post
Click to Make a Complaint
The Parent Posting, to Which This is a Reply
An Older Reply to the Parent PostingThis PostingA Newer Reply to the Parent Posting
The First Reply to This Posting

Cockney raspberries
Post: 5
Posted Apr 7, 2000 by Wand'rin star
In Chaucer's time cockney was a term of contempt for an uneducated Londoner, possible derived from"cock's egg" or a useless thing, connected with cock-eyed. Before the Second World War it meant anyone born within the sound of Bow Bells of the church of St mary le Bow in the East End of London. But bombing and slum clearance dispersed most of these formerly tight-knit families. Now cockney means anyone born in east London. The accent is very similar, therefore, to Essex. Perhaps it's a dialect. Anyway, there's a lot of local vocabulary, some of which was originally market men's slang or thieves cant or Yiddish (big immigrant area ) with odd bits of Hindi (!) from returned soldiers in the nineteenth century. The most famous bits are rhyming slang(eg "apples and pears" means stairs, except that I've never heard anyone say that). These have become more difficult as the rhyming word is now usually left off
so that hair is Barnet(fair), a suit is a whistle (and flute) a look at something is a butcher's (hook) and a rasberry (tart) is a fart. On the other hand, they've also become easier as they have been spread on films (think Michael Caine) and TV (Eastenders). You didn't really want to know all that, did you? That'll teach you to flag down a teacher's hobby horse.

Reply 

Previous PostNext Post
Click to Make a Complaint
The Parent Posting, to Which This is a Reply
An Older Reply to the Parent PostingThis PostingA Newer Reply to the Parent Posting
The First Reply to This Posting

Cockney raspberries
Post: 6
Posted Apr 8, 2000 by Seven Crocodile Rain
Wow, thanks a lot

Alex v2.4

Reply 

Previous PostNext Post
Click to Make a Complaint
The Parent Posting, to Which This is a Reply
An Older Reply to the Parent PostingThis PostingA Newer Reply to the Parent Posting
The First Reply to This Posting

Cockney raspberries
Post: 7
Posted May 20, 2000 by Swampy
I've met one of them. I tell you, its quite a shock when you're just picking your way through some fine red rasberries and one of them suddenly leaps out and say, "Cheer up guvner! Shine your shoes for a penny?"

Reply 

Previous PostNo Next Post
Click to Make a Complaint
The Parent Posting, to Which This is a Reply
An Older Reply to the Parent PostingThis PostingA Newer Reply to the Parent Posting
The First Reply to This Posting

Key
Navigation Example
A: An older reply to the parent Posting
B: The parent Posting, to which this is a reply
C: A newer reply to the parent posting
D: The first reply to this Posting
Click to Make a Complaint
 Click on this icon to make a complaint about a specific Posting
Conversation list
<< More Raspberries






Disclaimer

Most of the content on h2g2 is created by h2g2's Researchers, who are members of the public. The views expressed are theirs and unless specifically stated are not those of the BBC. The BBC is not responsible for the content of any external sites referenced. In the event that you consider anything on this page to be in breach of the site's House Rules, please click here. For any other comments, please click on the Feedback button above.




About the BBC | Help | Terms of Use | Privacy & Cookies Policy