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Posted Sep 19, 2003 by Odo
 It's rather unusual to find unwelcoming ringers.
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Posted Sep 19, 2003 by Yvonne
Odo
I only caught the end of that episode, so didn't see the double handing. Tower I was ringing at once, this is a true story, was ringing a quarter, we couldn't get six. So the conductor managed to ring two working bells, conducted it, and still managed to keep some of us learners right when we lost it. It wasn't until I tried calling my first method that I realised what he'd done. Dead impressed!
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Posted Sep 19, 2003 by Vip
Indeed. I've never been to a tower and not welcomed. And generally welcomed down the pub afterwards. 
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Posted Sep 19, 2003 by Vip
Wow! That is amazing!
The brains on some people... *shakes head*
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Posted Sep 19, 2003 by Yvonne
It was a city centre, 12-bell tower, full of up-tight ringers that did quarters and things for Sunday servies. I've since moved to a place out-of-town and can't find a tower nearby.
The old towers I left both finished the night by heading down the local for a drink or two. Thank goodness I lived within walking distance 
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Posted Sep 19, 2003 by Vip
Ah. I have to say I'm often nervous about going to a larger, city-centre tower. They do tend to be rather good.
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Posted Sep 19, 2003 by Odo
Yes, it’s very impressive. I’ve only seen double handed ringing once, and yes the chap dangling on the ropes was conducting and keeping his beginners right.
It’s the same with those handbell ringers who go in for peals of spliced surprise whatever…. How they can split their brains and keep track to two bells going in opposite directions for a couple of hours, it must be exhausting.
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Posted Sep 19, 2003 by Yvonne
Vip
It wasn't so much that they were good, it was the clique that they were. I'm sure they would never go to the pub after practice, especially as they didn't *have* one, they thought they were that good.
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Posted Sep 19, 2003 by Vip
Ah, they probably would. They just wouldn't tell you which one. 
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Posted Dec 31, 2006 by SimonPercy
The website is www.towerbase.net. I have it myself. I started ringing about two years ago and am now onto ringing plain bob minor inside, grandsire inside, treble bobbing, tenor behind and treble to all plain methods. My home tower is pickering, north yorkshire, England. 
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Posted Jan 2, 2007 by greyHillsborough
Good luck to all of you. I have been ringing in Northern Ireland for 25 years and it is a great hobby. We don't have many towers here, but it is such a rewarding thing to do.
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Posted Feb 1, 2009 by Estrangedringer
As a "estranged" or "deprived" or"exiled" or "excommunicated" or just plain "stranded" ringer in San Francisco, one may not be aware of this, but there is not a single tower in this city that has a ring of bells! No one bloody well seems to be interested (even during good economic times) such as Grace Cathedral, whos "South Tower" stands unused to this day, the Lone Mountain Campus of the University of San Francisco University (a Jesuit University) has a building that appears so much like a traditional English bell tower, but whose louvers are indeed glassed over, and...once again... NO RING! See, my arms...uh...are not quite ... ugh! ...long enough to reach half a world away to the UK from here! (The closest rings are in Honolulu and a brand new ring of eight bells at the University of Seattle, in the State of Washington). But not in California, let alone in San Francisco!
I have indeed been "proselytising" to my friends about this art and to other people as in hopes to "plant the seed" for this interest. I shall make an honest attempt to try and form a committee online, perhaps through Craigslist, as to raise funds and leading to the eventual establishment of a tower and ring by the California Academy of Science in Golden Gate Park. I have no idea just how successful I may be, if at all! (But worth a try).
One problem here, as there is a total absence of knowledge of this Exercise in San Francisco, I could be very well be one of the very few (God help me, if I were to be the ONLY one!) who not only knows of this art, but being a ringer myself -- albeit that I have been out of practise due to this one very important problem!
Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Posted Feb 1, 2009 by Vip
Crickey! That's no fun at all!
I would have absolutely zero idea how to go about doing that. Perhaps approaching the Cathedral or a University that have a tower that could be used and see if hey are interested (long term, obviously?) They might be able to garner up some learners and, more importantly, funding for buying and installing them.
It's a mammoth task, and in the current economic situation everywhere I can't see many people being enthusiastic about it. But it's always worth a shot.
Best of luck!
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Posted Sep 29, 2009 by jochanaan
Have just started learning to ring at the age of 77 - I know old dogs and new tricks come to mind but it is great to be with a group of really friendly and supportive people. I broke the stay on my second lesson !! Felt a complete idiot but the team all signed the stay and gave it to me as a keepsake, Shall persevere though !!
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Posted Sep 30, 2009 by Vip
Fantastic news!
A lot of ringers come to it later in life but that doesn't stop them progressing and have a lot of fun! I'm glad to hear your tower are supportive.
Best of luck!
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Posted Oct 28, 2009 by hygienicdispenser
Just a quick update for your original article: there are now 16's at CCC Dublin & in the Swan Tower, Perth, Australia. Why on earth anyone would want to ring 16 (2 octaves plus 1 note?) is a different question.
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Posted Oct 28, 2009 by Vip
Thanks for that.
The 1 note will be an extra in the middle somewhere, to allow them to rung a middle eight, I think. So, in the main, they ring a standard twelve, rather than all sixteen. But I agree - that's too many bells for me!
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Posted Oct 31, 2009 by hygienicdispenser
When I went through the backlog a couple of days ago, I somehow missed estrangedringers plea for help in introducing ringing to San Francisco. It's a huge task that you've set yourself. A couple of ideas. Apologies if you've thought of them already.
1) The Central Council of Church Bell Ringers in Britain. Explain your enthusiasm. They're largely a bunch of old farts, but who knows, there might be someone under seventy there, with some helpful advice.
2) Your East Coast compatriots. A new ring of twelve (the first in America) was installed at Trinity, Wall Street (some city or other) in 2006.
Quite few friends of mine have rung in America, and they all say that the enthusiasm is tremendous. Contact them, and the CCCBR, and ask for ideas.
Get the bells, then they will come.
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