Posted Sep 5, 2003 by clzoomer- "The TV business is a cruel and shallow money trench. A long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. There is also a negative side."
I know it was in Oz but that has changed I believe. Are there other countries with varying degrees of funding?
What about deserving students? Shouldn't scholarships still provide something? If it is just cash for living, that hardly seems right, I think paying fees and entrance monies should be earned, not just awarded to everyone. Otherwise some students would take advantage of the system to be in a social atmosphere or just to waste time while they wait for other things to happen. An example of that is a girl I know who is waiting for the baby boomers to retire so she can get a job teaching. She is now in her 7th year of uni taking courses that have no relevance to her present degree, all on her parents coin.
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Posted Sep 6, 2003 by darakat - Now with pockets!
University funding in Oz is still mostly public, however you pay HECS which means that you have to pay for your degree... eventuly. The money gets taken out of your pay when you get a job. So if you don't get a job you don't pay, simply put becuase you damm well can't if you don't, unless you rich. In which case you whould have probebly paid up front for the 20% discount anyway. You pay about $250 a year entrance fees, plus according to your HECS band (look this up yourself its an eduaction in it self) maby some more. Thanks to Dr. Nelson (current education minister) we could be paying twice as much and if we fail a course we have to pay for that course up front, plus the money we owe going up by intrest rather than at the fixed 6% (which is good if intrest is below 6%, bad if its not). There are also other things that Dr. Nelson wishes to bring in to the univeristys and I will of course be using my democratic right to kick the bugger out come next election beucase of these changes (de-unioniseation, pushing up of fees, destruction of Student's Assosiation (ie we no longer get representation) plus other rather nasty things that I am sure I could write about for the next 6 days about how strogly I feel that they are incredibly stupid and bad). If your freind is waiting on her perants coin, its there problem, nothing to do with the funding of universityies.
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Posted Sep 6, 2003 by gareis
If the Students' Association is removed, surely you will still have the right to vote?
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Posted Sep 7, 2003 by darakat - Now with pockets!
In a normal eclection yes of course, it still removes us from the right to formal protest as a legal orginiseation and also stops us from having any say in what the universitys do (not like we do anyway but we can at least get a formal democraticly elected body to represent our views to the university), it also means that we no longer have to join the union, and thus if we get injured, fail improperly (ie we fail but there has been a mistake) and so on we no longer have the orgised suport we used to.
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